[Hernandez - BFA]

Already been mentioned but my biggest disappointment in him is how he doesn’t seem to use his size well at all. Feels like he loses all aerial dukes and just falls backwards when he’s reversing into someone by trying to win a free kick rather than using his size to control/touch it on.

He’ll be here next season so I do hope he kicks on.

 

[Gaidal]

Didn't see the full game, but thought he looked exactly like Höjlund, tactics + our terrible passes/longballs to a single CF battling with two cbs is never gonna work.

 

[Real Name]

He's not an amazing player or anything but I have to say I like him. He works hard, he has good technique and composure, and physically he gives CBs a very good fight while being able to hold up the ball well. The sort of player who can develop into a really good target man, minus the whole scoring part as he really doesn't have scoring instincts. If he ever developed that though he could be a hell of a striker. But generally I think he's improved a lot in how he deals with defenders physically and he looks a lot stronger.

Yeah, he's definitely getting the grip of the league more and more every game.

 

[WangJianLin]

I do wonder if a bit of physical conditioning in the summer could add a yard of pace to his game. It would do so much for him as a player and his value to the team. At the moment he is just too slow on and off the ball, and it’s a shame because I really enjoy watching him at points, and he’s got such a unique profile.

Unfortunately I think it’s likely he’ll go in the summer, as he one of those we might actually get a bit of cash for.

 

[afrocentricity]

Didn't see the full game, but thought he looked exactly like Höjlund, tactics + our terrible passes/longballs to a single CF battling with two cbs is never gonna work.

... and then Hoijlund came on.

 

[Eagle_eye]

How will that change him getting tackled and having loose touches that are recovered by opposition players? Individual improvement is all he needs

Every player gets tackled and occasionally have a loose touch. Having a better 9 and 10 next him would help him release the ball quicker and link up better. The good thing is he is improving game on game, especially in terms of physicality.

 

[Kostov]

Should certainly play before Hojlund, but hardly anything worth mentioning. Looks like a crap finisher with questionable shooting ability.

 

[Ekeke]

Every player gets tackled and occasionally have a loose touch. Having a better 9 and 10 next him would help him release the ball quicker and link up better. The good thing is he is improving game on game, especially in terms of physicality.

In his current run he has been one of the worst if not the worst for losing the ball via being dispossessed or a loose touch going to an opponent. Particularly the game against Fulham with being dispossessed 10 times and 3 unsafe touches in 120 mins and yesterday's performance 2 and 5 in 75 mins. Its a him problem but its the same problem 19 year old Mainoo has however Mainoo also has more successful dribbles which explains why he's going for them. Zirkzee averages twice as many failed dribbled attempts as successful ones.

He played better against Sociedad because in the 2nd half he improved his passing accuracy, didnt give the ball away as much, put more effort into helping the team and won the ball a lot, got his shot on target which resulted in a goal. Against Arsenal he was mostly back to the same as previous games although obviously they are tougher competition than most of those games.

Garnacho is the other one who loses the ball a lot, but the difference is you want him to get the ball and run at players because thats where his successes come from and he constantly looks our most dangerous player doing it and its using his pace. He's also 20 not 23 so slightly more understandable if he gets it wrong. Against Arsenal he was dispossessed once with 0 unsafe touches which is one of the reasons he played well.

 

[Marwood]

That's something every player struggles when they come to PL, from outside. Come on, lets not act as if we don't know this league.

He has the basic tools to work with. it all depends whether we have the patience and whether he has that determination to succeed here .

He's no goalscoring record or seemingly the mindset to score goals.

That's quite a fundamental basic he's lacking.

I say let's not waste time on a 50/50 project. Move him on in the summer if possible.

 

[Cwall22]

Should certainly play before Hojlund, but hardly anything worth mentioning. Looks like a crap finisher with questionable shooting ability.

I dont think ive seen him take a shot, certainly dont remember anything of note.

Hes overtaken Hojlund as the starter for me though. After Hojlund didn't even shoot when he had that sitter, i dont want to see him come on before Chido Obi again either.

 

[Drainy]

He's no goalscoring record or seemingly the mindset to score goals.

That's quite a fundamental basic he's lacking.

I say let's not waste time on a 50/50 project. Move him on in the summer if possible.

I don't think you are prepared for the next couple of seasons.

We're probably going to be limited to one premium signing and a few projects like Zirkzee/ Dorgu per season for the foreseeable..

 

[Cwall22]

He's no goalscoring record or seemingly the mindset to score goals.

That's quite a fundamental basic he's lacking.

I say let's not waste time on a 50/50 project. Move him on in the summer if possible.

We cant move him AND Hojlund on in the summer and i think Zirkzee is growing into our matches where as Hojlund is fading and getting worse.

 

[ManRed]

He is surely improving and almost scored a cheeky goal. Its his first season at the club and playing under a dysfunctional team. I wouldn't judge yet.

 

[Marwood]

I don't think you are prepared for the next couple of seasons.

We're probably going to be limited to one premium signing and a few projects like Zirkzee/ Dorgu per season for the foreseeable..

There are projects and then there's a forward who doesn't have goals in him.

The latter can't be a thing at United.

 

[Tincanalley]

He is surely improving and almost scored a cheeky goal. Its his first season at the club and playing under a dysfunctional team. I wouldn't judge yet.

Sane post. Ban incoming

 

[Drainy]

There are projects and then there's a forward who doesn't have goals in him.

The latter can't be a thing at United.

And that's why he'll likely be repurposed as a 10 and then phased out if he doesn't develop or reach the required level (or opportunities to upgrade emerge in the market that make sense economically)

 

[Gordon'sHill]

Sane post. Ban incoming

The trouble is we paid £37m for a 'project', and one its hard to see what he is really good at. We don't really have a need for a floating 10, also one who lacks physicality for the PL and cant even head the ball. He didn't suit ETH and he doesn't suit Amorim, who needs players that can link play but also drive into the box, either with the ball or to get on the end of crosses/ pull backs. You also need to press hard in that position, which he doesnt really do either. Zirkzee doesn't do any of these things.

 

[Smores]

For certain games I think he'll end up being quite useful but he's nothing more than a squad player. He lacks too much pace and an ability to dribble.

 

[rooney2009]

I actually really like him, he has a lot of unique skills, he is strong, holds up play very well and can see a pass quickly.
He should definitely be part of the squad next season but needs to work on his shooting but I think he is on of the few positives from this season.

 

[Drainy]

For certain games I think he'll end up being quite useful but he's nothing more than a squad player. He lacks too much pace and an ability to dribble.

Needs to get a clearer picture of the passing lanes available to him to really be effective for us. But it can happen.

That left 10 with pace around him could be a killer when we're playing higher up the pitch

 

[UpWithRivers]

I like him. The kids a baller. The premier league is a war zone. The players are so strong and fit and fast even with the bottom teams and the pace is relentless. You could see when he first came in he was doing the right things but he was off the pace. The fact that he has managed to somewhat come to terms with the pace and physicality from when he started is a really good sign. He's not quite there yet but he's getting there. You can see even when he fks up what he was trying to do and its always positive he just doesn't quite pull it off. Which is different to Garnacho for instance where he is making the wrong decisions. He will never be a 20 goal striker but I can see him getting around 10 goals and 5-10 assists in a functional team. It all depends on how Amorim decides to build the team. If its suits Zirkzee with getting runners off him and players with a bit of technical skill to bounce balls off him then he could turn out to be a really good player for us.

 

[flappyjay]

For certain games I think he'll end up being quite useful but he's nothing more than a squad player. He lacks too much pace and an ability to dribble.

They way he pushes the ball forward when he runs with the ball you would think he has some pace to burn.

 

[DannyCAFC]

Already been mentioned but my biggest disappointment in him is how he doesn’t seem to use his size well at all. Feels like he loses all aerial dukes and just falls backwards when he’s reversing into someone by trying to win a free kick rather than using his size to control/touch it on.

He’ll be here next season so I do hope he kicks on.

He's winning on average 1 in 4 in the PL this season, 13th percentile for all forwards in the league despite being 6'4" which is woeful.

His general lack of intensity is a real issue overall and why I don't see this working at for him at OT. Plays every game like he's having a Sunday morning kick about in the park with his mates.

 

[Redstain]

Didn't see the full game, but thought he looked exactly like Höjlund, tactics + our terrible passes/longballs to a single CF battling with two cbs is never gonna work.

The first half he was losing to Saliba the second half he had more success against him. There was multiple occasions where he rolled him and was able to pass or dribble the ball forward. One thing is for certain Zirkzee has much better balance then Rasmus, Hojlund holds off his defender well but because he lack athleticism and agility he's never able to turn off his opponent.

I'm not a fan of football where the ball is played into the single centre forward but Zirkzee has proven to be effective at times with this approach. However United will still need to recruit an individual who's more suited to this style of play.

 

[Marwood]

We cant move him AND Hojlund on in the summer and i think Zirkzee is growing into our matches where as Hojlund is fading and getting worse.

Course we can and we absolutely should. Maybe one of them just a loan out. How can we go into another season with two forwards who barely score? Asking for trouble.

And that's why he'll likely be repurposed as a 10 and then phased out if he doesn't develop or reach the required level (or opportunities to upgrade emerge in the market that make sense economically)

He still needs to score goals as a 10.

And that's assuming he's got the other qualities a 10 needs, which he hasn't.

We all know it deep down. He's not good enough. There's no point delaying the inevitable if an opportunity to sell comes up this summer.

 

[Drainy]

Course we can and we absolutely should. Maybe one of them just a loan out. How can we go into another season with two forwards who barely score? Asking for trouble.



He still needs to score goals as a 10.

And that's assuming he's got the other qualities a 10 needs, which he hasn't.

We all know it deep down. He's not good enough. There's no point delaying the inevitable if an opportunity to sell comes up this summer.

My thoughts are that he's probably not going to get to the level required to be a key starter in a United side that is challenging for the league, but we need time for squad development and replenishment so we need to find use of him.