maybe we want to have a dramatic window-closing day which we usually don't bother with
Falcao/Berbatov were great.
Jose's interview - "Wish to sign 2 more players"
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Falcao/Berbatov were great.
It's happening guys , you read it here first .
Smalling won't leave because he's the only CB who was consistently fit last season. I'm surprised Jones is still here though, he's a very good player but also a very fragile one. Perhaps we're waiting to sign one before we let one go.
Probably just means that they gave up on Willian because of the unrealistic asking price of 80m. Don't see it being anything cheaper for us.. Would probably be more if anything.
Maybe once you become one of the most successful managers in the world, and have an intimate working knowledge of a group of players, you’ll know.
Should someone like Paul Pogba seriously have to be motivated by his manager?
I do wonder why Jose, is so openly and repeatedly negatively focussed towards Pogba. Why doesn't he congratulate him in public, for his performances in the World Cup and work with him, talk to him about how he could be the same catalyst for united, behind closed doors. This could also be done in a positive sense. Future focus rather than past tense. Reflection of course with the focus though on how Pogba can translate what he did in the World Cup into a 50 game season, and most importantly what support Jose needs to give.
If I was Pogba, reading what Jose had said about me after the World Cup, I'd feel even less rapport towards the man, he seems to have spent the past two weeks absolving himself of blame and throwing shade on a World Cup winning player.
Sure Jose may feel it's for the right reasons, I don't think he's going about it the right way. In fact I feel he's just creating a bigger rift. There was no warmth in his comments. No specific praise. No suggestions of happiness towards his player and the achievement. Just bitterness and mild hostility.
If I was Pogba, reading what Jose had said about me after the World Cup, I'd feel even less rapport towards the man, he seems to have spent the past two weeks absolving himself of blame and throwing shade on a World Cup winning player.
Sure Jose may feel it's for the right reasons, I don't think he's going about it the right way. In fact I feel he's just creating a bigger rift. There was no warmth in his comments. No specific praise. No suggestions of happiness towards his player and the achievement. Just bitterness and mild hostility.
Shit-stirring agenda post of the highest order.
So no Sandro then..
Indeed, should be a journo with the misrepresentation...
It would be the biggest waste of £140m I could imagine.
Have to say, if we don't sign a left back I'll be disappointed. But at the same time, fosu mensah has looked solid at RB and dalot can play left back as well, so there are options there with potential.
Hopefully we get lucky. Would love to see Shaw come good after a tough few years but I won't hold my breath.
Tierney maybe next year?
The more I think about it, bale and maguire would be class. Maguire has that captain quality about him, he's not injury prone and would be homegrown.
And bale is world class when fit and can win games out of nowhere. And he's also homegrown.
I always like to see the best players from the uk and Ireland at United. Bale would be another brilliant Welsh winger.
Even if Alderweireld and Willian, I'd be happy.
Willian is getting an awful doing on here. His stats aren't amazing but he's a very effective winger and kept Douglas Costa out of the Brazil team. Overpriced yes, but who isn't nowadays.
Sell rojo for 20mil, sign bale and maguire for 150m. Try to sell Darmian.
We'd then be a good left back away from being complete with a first 11 that picks itself.
But we definitely need 2 more good players and I hope we get them.
Hopefully we get lucky. Would love to see Shaw come good after a tough few years but I won't hold my breath.
Tierney maybe next year?
The more I think about it, bale and maguire would be class. Maguire has that captain quality about him, he's not injury prone and would be homegrown.
And bale is world class when fit and can win games out of nowhere. And he's also homegrown.
I always like to see the best players from the uk and Ireland at United. Bale would be another brilliant Welsh winger.
Even if Alderweireld and Willian, I'd be happy.
Willian is getting an awful doing on here. His stats aren't amazing but he's a very effective winger and kept Douglas Costa out of the Brazil team. Overpriced yes, but who isn't nowadays.
Sell rojo for 20mil, sign bale and maguire for 150m. Try to sell Darmian.
We'd then be a good left back away from being complete with a first 11 that picks itself.
But we definitely need 2 more good players and I hope we get them.
If we shell out £70m or whatever for Willian that is a joke.
I mean he's decent, but he's 30 and its £70m which is a lot even in today's terms.
I mean he's decent, but he's 30 and its £70m which is a lot even in today's terms.
Nonsense, what about £140m worth of compact disc?
When He said "One thing is what I would like, another thing is what is going to happen" it could also mean "I already got 2 players I want and now We'll see if I can get another two but there's no guarantee of that" than him talking shit about Woodward.
Is Sneijder still available ?
Exactly. Sometimes i believe i'm watching a different game.
Im with Jose here, we have more pressing issues than a new left back, Young has just kept Danny Rose and Ryan Bertrand out of the starting 11 at the World Cup and was a bright spark for England, especially for corners. Luke Shaw was the Redcafe darling 2 years ago, lets face it, he is a more than adequate back up.
Dalot is an absolute unknown quantity, so I'm interested to see what we do at right back. Darmian is obviously not good enough so we are entrusting Dalot or Fosu Mensah as backups....but they should be able to do a job. Valencia's crossing however is suspect.
We have absolutely no Balance across our front 3/4. It's going to be Lukaku, Sanchez and one other? We need to be asking ourselves what we need, a direct right winger or a skilful 'between the lines' type player.
Centre back is a must, Maguire would be perfect and take a lot of pressure from Matic.
Dalot is an absolute unknown quantity, so I'm interested to see what we do at right back. Darmian is obviously not good enough so we are entrusting Dalot or Fosu Mensah as backups....but they should be able to do a job. Valencia's crossing however is suspect.
We have absolutely no Balance across our front 3/4. It's going to be Lukaku, Sanchez and one other? We need to be asking ourselves what we need, a direct right winger or a skilful 'between the lines' type player.
Centre back is a must, Maguire would be perfect and take a lot of pressure from Matic.
We would be crazy to pay 70 million for Perisic or Willian. I would rather we go for a young winger like Pulisic or Bailey.
You are underestimating the effect of having good/bad manager in your career. It makes a whole world difference, in terms of work performance.
I thought Young was pretty good at left back last season. Sure, he had a few stinkers but so did Marcello and many other full backs in Europe. I would even go as far as saying Young was one of the top five left backs in the league last season. And didn't he chip in a few goals? I can't recall that bit well. I do remember a free kick stunner from him. If Shaw steps up, it can force Young to be even better.
In an ideal world, I desperately want two new full backs but when I think 'supposing we don't get two full backs', it doesn't look as bad as I thought. Valencia is my worry, not Young. If the Dalot kid is as good as Jose claims, then the situation might just not be as bad as I feared. Also, I thought Lindelöf played pretty well in a game or two last season when he was deployed to play right back (or was it the right side of a back three?). At Portugal, he did play well there a number of times. There's also TFM and Demi Mitchell. I don't know what Jose plans for them but maybe they can be full back options, who knows? But it's generally interesting to watch how this whole saga turns out.
Maybe he is talking to him privately on a one on one basis and telling him all the right things? Jose likes to take blame away from himself so maybe that's why he's talking like this publicly? It also doesn't appear negative to me too.
I think one area we certainly need to improve on is scoring from set pieces and defending them, as apart from Bailly we don't really have much ariel threat. I think Maguire would be a great addition for us in that aspect. Also he is good with the ball at his feet, so he in combination with Bailly would be an excellent pairing IMO.
Willian would bring balance to a RW that has lacked that some time now. He isn't the flashy attacking player that would get you 15-20 goals, but him being there allows Alexis, Rashford or Martial to attack freely on the other side while helping maintain a good balance. How many times last season and earlier have we played Lingard or Mata on the RW only for them to drift in to the middle and leave us exposed? Willian would stop that.
That’s a completely different issue.
The players that we are being linked with is leaving me depressed. How can we be so daft at this whole transfer thing?
Good thing you aren't Pogba. Bitterness and hostility are the go to words for people who can't take criticism. Pogba played in the same position with France NT as He did multiple times with United.
The difference is, Pogba was much more focused and motivated at the World Cup which is understandable given the occasion. It showed if He's capable of playing in a position Jose wanted him to. So of course He must try his best to replicate what He did with France with United. That's the first thing. Do We really have to sign the players Pogba wants or alter our midfield to fit "his needs"? no because He's clearly capable. Why the double standards?
My guess would be:
Maguire
Bale
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Maguire Young
Fred Matic Pogba
Bale Lukaku Sanchez
I know rumours are saying that Bale has had assurances off Lopetegui, but I think Madrid will get Hazard, who is much more of a Lopetegui player, in that he is a lot better in possession and tight spaces.
The money from Ronaldo and potentially Bale, would leave them with enough to get Hazard and a new striker, leaving them with a front three of:
Hazard Striker Isco
Maguire
Bale
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Maguire Young
Fred Matic Pogba
Bale Lukaku Sanchez
I know rumours are saying that Bale has had assurances off Lopetegui, but I think Madrid will get Hazard, who is much more of a Lopetegui player, in that he is a lot better in possession and tight spaces.
The money from Ronaldo and potentially Bale, would leave them with enough to get Hazard and a new striker, leaving them with a front three of:
Hazard Striker Isco
If we had Sandro there as well I'd be incredibly happy. All players that can fit into someone else's system too, so no excuses if they're available.
Yeah. Totally agree. It was obvious from the interview and his previous comments about Pogba especially during and immediately after the World Cup.
And in reality, that was what made the difference for Pogba at the World Cup. He looked focused and disciplined. He seemed to stick to tactical lines throughout each game, (not that I think it matters much) he stuck to one hair style throughout and his social media habit was different during the tourney.
Must say I don't understand the current hard-on to sign a left back. Thought Young had a good season there last year, and we have two young full backs to fill in/challenge him over the course of the season. Similarly not concerned about RB.
More pressing issue for me is how many games Smalling played last season and our frightening lack of quality in the final 3rd. So if the current train of thought is right (CB + RW) then that should go someway to resolving both issues.
More pressing issue for me is how many games Smalling played last season and our frightening lack of quality in the final 3rd. So if the current train of thought is right (CB + RW) then that should go someway to resolving both issues.
No no, as soon as Jose gets some more 30 year olds in, we're winning every trophy, and we'll be set for the future
That's what I also remember. Apart from some poor games, I thought Young was very good last season. I was more worried about Valencia overall.
That's what I understood as well. It sounded like he specifically talked about the RB position rather than FB in general.
Controversial but I'd rather we don't sign anyone than spend £70m on Willian.
We have scouts fffs!
We have scouts fffs!
Am I supposed to get jealous that I'm a newbie and you are superior to me?
Even though you think Vidal, Boateng & Rebic are players that will raise us up a level
Am I supposed to get jealous that I'm a newbie and you are superior to me?
Even though you think Vidal, Boateng & Rebic are players that will raise us up a level
No one said a thing about you being Jealous but your insecurities are noted.
Stop putting words into peoples mouths you said they were all "Horrible" players. Back-peddling and changing your argument won't help you. Also, there are people far knowledgeable about football than you and me combined who would tell you they are good players.
If he's happy with Valencia and Young being first choice over the course of a full season he's a total moron.
Nothing else, no other explanation.
Nothing else, no other explanation.
Me too. I’d rather play Mata or even throw Chong in a bit more.
Agree
They deteriorated fast from March onwards last season. By December, the full back situation will be absolutely desperate. A world class manager would deal with it before it becomes a problem. I'm getting less and less sure that Mourinho is still as sharp as he once was
Hopefully those two players are a new LB and a RW.
I'm sick of seeing Ashley Young as a LB.
I'm sick of seeing Ashley Young as a LB.