Jose's interview - "Wish to sign 2 more players"

[Jeppers7]

Shit-stirring agenda post of the highest order.

In what way ? It's an observation based on a couple of interviews given by Jose since the World Cup. It also offers an alternative approach.

Learning takes place better from a positive perspective, perhaps it's the way I view it, but the under current seems negative. His first sentence is defensive, the majority of the dialog after is clearly based on what Jose sees as negative traits in Pogba's personality

Perhaps you disagree ? But there's more shit stirring in your post than mine.

 

[Patrick08]

Must say I don't understand the current hard-on to sign a left back. Thought Young had a good season there last year, and we have two young full backs to fill in/challenge him over the course of the season. Similarly not concerned about RB.

More pressing issue for me is how many games Smalling played last season and our frightening lack of quality in the final 3rd. So if the current train of thought is right (CB + RW) then that should go someway to resolving both issues.

Full backs defending wise is not much a concern, but attack becomes very blunt if there is no Attacking width or overlapping option in the final third. The inverted wingers are most of the times Doubled up and if they have to provide width as well it leaves huge gaps and very less cohesion between front three. All the opposition has to do is mark Lukaku tightly and they stop us easily with lack of movement and support.

 

[ravi2]

Fwiw, I don’t think we’ll even go close to the title with our current full backs (possibly with the exception of Dalot, who I know nothing about) regardless of whether we sign another centre half and a forward.

Maguire and Willian confirmed then. Ignoring left full back issue is unforgivable.

I honestly don't know how anyone could be happy with Young as first choice. It's crazy.

Maybe the same way how SAF had a blind spot in the midfield, Jose's blind spot is at the full backs.
It just doesnt make sense that he thinks Young and Valencia should be starting full backs for United at this stage.

Its almost as if he and the board dont want us to have a decent shot of dethroning City who are still miles ahead of us

 

[Valencia's Left Foot]

Serious underrating of Maguire here.

Yes, IMO, he’s the type of player our back line needs, tough as nails, a leader, dominant in the air and can dribble out of the back and pass effectively. I imagine José is also in love with Maguire’s ability to dominate in the air on set pieces.

 

[fellaini's barber]

I hope not, we don't deserve that.



He does. Young has his doubters every season and he continues to prove them wrong, should be the captain before Valencia in my eyes.

when did this happen

 

[Valencia's Left Foot]

What he seems to suggest is clear enough. Pogba needs to keep focused. When he's focused, he's very good. Whether it can be taken as a “dig” (some people will undoubtedly take it as such) isn't all that interesting to me: What José says (seemingly) is that Pogba has a problem with keeping up a consistent standard a) because he lets that standard drop when the match isn't big enough and b) because he gets distracted (by things that aren't football related). He also suggests that being committed to the team (see the role he played for France) makes him a more efficient player.

All this seems to jibe quite well with what we saw last season - and what we've seen recently at the WC. Two different players, you could say.

Pogba is also a very sensitive lad, when he feels like he’s being disrespected he more often than not shrinks from it and sulks as opposed to fight back with more efffort or energy. Personally, I love the guy and think that his World Cup experience will help a ton in his evolution as a player.

 

[ravi2]

I'm a minority, but I think that Valencia covered by Dalot is an okay situation for the next season — especially with no top right backs available
Young and Shaw on the left on the other hand

I agree with this...at least one of our full backs needs to be able to put in ball in the box and as it stands we dont have that.
I cannot think of another top tier side in Europe that is in this sort of predicament.

 

[royboy16]

Well at least our attack is going to be addressed it seems which can only be a good thing.

 

[Valencia's Left Foot]

when did this happen

I agree that Young shouldn’t be starting, but come on man, the fact that he is still with the club after all of these years and starting for both club and country at a relatively new position for him at 33 says a lot about the guy. He loves playing for United and brings a ton of passion and professionalism to his game.

 

[The Purley King]

Well at least our attack is going to be addressed it seems which can only be a good thing.

Not if we waste £70m on Willian it won't be...........

 

[ravi2]

A whole lot of people are slamming Luke Shaw here, but I'd like to show some faith in the lad. I believe he'll come good for us. When he plays regularly he tends to be quite good IMO and Young is better than people seem to give him credit for. RW seems the bigger priority to me.

Did you say the same thing about Anderson?

 

[Skills]

Full backs defending wise is not much a concern, but attack becomes very blunt if there is no Attacking width or overlapping option in the final third. The inverted wingers are most of the times Doubled up and if they have to provide width as well it leaves huge gaps and very less cohesion between front three. All the opposition has to do is mark Lukaku tightly and they stop us easily with lack of movement and support.

You seriously thinks Mourinho wants his full backs to do that?

 

[royboy16]

Not if we waste £70m on Willian it won't be...........

I don't think it will be him.

 

[Lash]

when did this happen

Not doubters in his ability per say, but he has definitely been on everyone's "out" list when doing hypothetical transfers for about 4 years.

 

[Cliche Guevara]

You seriously thinks Mourinho wants his full backs to do that?

Here we go again. Do you think he doesn’t?

Do you watch United?

 

[DRM]

Who are we signing?

 

[The Purley King]

I don't think it will be him.

Who do you think we'll bring in?
I wouldn't mind Bale at this point. Flog Martial if need be to part finance it. Would have loved Mahrez......

 

[Lookatu]

Just wondering as to how many of the 'Ashley Young at left back with Shaw as understudy is the end of days' Brigade (Quite a long winded name for any Brigade I Know) also believed football was coming home?

I feel like my optimism in this area may have some believe because this is my first post in here that I'm new to football and don't have any idea how bleak things really are.

Luke Shaw was once the greatest young left back in the country and Mourinho was ruining him by not giving him cuddles and making him feel like the best left back in the world.
Ashley young was the first choice left back for the Greatest England team since 1966 selected by the coach of the year 2018 Nominated Gareth Southgate in every game of the World Cup.

Some in here would have you believe that unless we sign Sandro or Telles that we are doomed to live out the season with the ludicrous combination of Massive experience and (Fit Again ) youthful exuberance.

Does anyone here really feel like Ashley Young at left back is the reason we were off the pace last year?
I mean he actually attacks, sticks to his man going the other way and crosses fairly reliably to the man who craves crosses.
He isn't ideal in terms of being right footed and 33 but I guess that's why we will be giving Luke Shaw a crack at playing left back with a not all together horrible option of rotating him in rather than spending 40 million on a lad who is probably going to be seemlessly replaced by Darmian at Juve.

Sure the grass is always greener but I for one would like to see Luke Shaw given the opportunity to pay back some of the money invested in him and somehow I don't feel like buying another left back for 40 million will fill him with the confidence he seems to need to flourish.

Anyway I'm quietly optimistic that with a right sided midfielder and a back up to Lukaku we may survive having the two boys vying for the one spot at left back.
Who knows? Shaw may even turn into the bloody brilliant left full we though we had before he was hit by a Mexican truck that time.

 

[Kostov]

It’s very frustrating seeing how Barca handled their RW problem. They bid couple of times, see Chelsea asking for ridiculous money, say feck off and go and buy Malcom. An already very good RW, with potential to be even better than Willian.

I hope we show the same reasoning and not shell out stupid money for the Brazilian or certain Croatian.

 

[royboy16]

Who do you think we'll bring in?
I wouldn't mind Bale at this point. Flog Martial if need be to part finance it. Would have loved Mahrez......

No idea but probably a big name that will keep us happy and sell a lot of shirts

 

[Still ill]

when did this happen

I've enough of this nonsense. I'm in full agreement that going in to the season with a 33 year old winger as your first choice left back is poor management. However, Young has been almost uniformly excellent in that position over the last couple of seasons. He's followed Mourinho's admittedly disappointingly conservative remit for his full-backs to the letter. No whingeing, no bullshit. Tell me a left back in the country that did a better job on Salah than he did at OT. I only pick that out as the most obvious contradiction to the argument that he can't defend. And all that with a plethora of confused and lacklustre left wing performances ahead of him. The Ashley Youngs of this world are not the problem in this club.

 

[fellaini's barber]

I've enough of this nonsense. I'm in full agreement that going in to the season with a 33 year old winger as your first choice left back is poor management. However, Young has been almost uniformly excellent in that position over the last couple of seasons. He's followed Mourinho's admittedly disappointingly conservative remit for his full-backs to the letter. No whingeing, no bullshit. Tell me a left back in the country that did a better job on Salah than he did at OT. I only pick that out as the most obvious contradiction to the argument that he can't defend. And all that with a plethora of confused and lacklustre left wing performances ahead of him. The Ashley Youngs of this world are not the problem in this club.

He's shit, been for some years. We have two fullbacks useless in attack for a couple of years, part of the reason our football is so poor. There's simply no way to sugarcoat or defend it. The fact that our manager is ready to continue with them in his third reason is why most of already know we'll have more of the same dour football as last season hence the negativity even before the season starts

 

[Still ill]

He's shit, been for some years. We have two fullbacks useless in attack for a couple of years, part of the reason our football is so poor. There's simply no way to sugarcoat or defend it. The fact that our manager is ready to continue with them in his third reason is why most of already know we'll have more of the same dour football as last season hence the negativity even before the season starts

Tell me who's not shit, who you like. Martial? Pogba? All you can ask of players is that they give 100% and try to give as close as possible to their full potential each week. After that, it's on management to use them correctly, come up with a strategy to successfully break down the opposition. My contention would be that Young comes pretty close to fulfilling his criteria but Jose has been a long way off fulfilling his.
He gives everything for the jersey, which is more than you can at for some of our star names. If his best is not good enough, then that's on management, not on him.

 

[jymufc20]

He's shit, been for some years. We have two fullbacks useless in attack for a couple of years, part of the reason our football is so poor. There's simply no way to sugarcoat or defend it. The fact that our manager is ready to continue with them in his third reason is why most of already know we'll have more of the same dour football as last season hence the negativity even before the season starts

Useless in attack ? He is the only player we have with a decent cross so i don't know where your getting that from.

As @Still ill says, Young isn't one of our problems

 

[Himannv]

Did you say the same thing about Anderson?

Nope. I wasn't quite as convinced by him in all honesty. I liked Steve Bruce (if that makes a difference).

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Yes, IMO, he’s the type of player our back line needs, tough as nails, a leader, dominant in the air and can dribble out of the back and pass effectively. I imagine José is also in love with Maguire’s ability to dominate in the air on set pieces.

Yes and I am quite sure that he would improve a lot under our setup. He can pass, he can head, he can also defend.

He is English, would give his all for the club and won't look for a move away if has good time here.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Exactly. Sometimes i believe i'm watching a different game.

People just want proven players. Players who are playing for big clubs. They complain that we aren't scouting unpolished gems like spurs do and on the other hand when we do that, they moan again.

Mourinho just can't win.

 

[Fer]

Yes and I am quite sure that he would improve a lot under our setup. He can pass, he can head, he can also defend.

He is English, would give his all for the club and won't look for a move away if has good time here.

How much did Leicester pay for him? Do you consider Maguire better than Alderweireld?

 

[ayushreddevil9]

How much did Leicester pay for him? Do you consider Maguire better than Alderweireld?

Leicester paid like 15m for him?

He isn't better than Alderweirald but he has potential to reach a high level. We shouldn't give in to Levy's demands. Maguire is a better investment IMHO.

 

[Greck]

Controversial but I'd rather we don't sign anyone than spend £70m on Willian.
We have scouts fffs!

Nothing controversial. 70m is what we should have spent on Mahrez. I'm banging my head thinking he probably wasn't on our radar for a lack of workrate. At his age and PL experience he fits the perfect profile for our RW but somehow we end up going for 29yr old Willian at that ridiculous sum. To add salt to that wound they are asking for a Martial swap

 

[golden_blunder]

In what way ? It's an observation based on a couple of interviews given by Jose since the World Cup. It also offers an alternative approach.

Learning takes place better from a positive perspective, perhaps it's the way I view it, but the under current seems negative. His first sentence is defensive, the majority of the dialog after is clearly based on what Jose sees as negative traits in Pogba's personality

Perhaps you disagree ? But there's more shit stirring in your post than mine.

For what it’s worth I agree with you. Jose’s man management skills seem on the face off it to be happy chappy as long as you follow his instructions and perform every week. Otherwise you’re dead to him. If Pogba had cost 20m rather than 90m I suspect he’d be sitting on the bench or forgotten about

 

[Ondrej]

I do wonder why Jose, is so openly and repeatedly negatively focussed towards Pogba. Why doesn't he congratulate him in public, for his performances in the World Cup and work with him, talk to him about how he could be the same catalyst for united, behind closed doors. This could also be done in a positive sense. Future focus rather than past tense. Reflection of course with the focus though on how Pogba can translate what he did in the World Cup into a 50 game season, and most importantly what support Jose needs to give.

If I was Pogba, reading what Jose had said about me after the World Cup, I'd feel even less rapport towards the man, he seems to have spent the past two weeks absolving himself of blame and throwing shade on a World Cup winning player.

Sure Jose may feel it's for the right reasons, I don't think he's going about it the right way. In fact I feel he's just creating a bigger rift. There was no warmth in his comments. No specific praise. No suggestions of happiness towards his player and the achievement. Just bitterness and mild hostility.

What? Mourinho has praised Pogba many times during the World Cup.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Personally I don't think United would be out of order to ask him work with what he's got atm, or at best one more for the position he deems most at need, & if he thinks that's a CB then you have to worry.

 

[Escobar]

It’s very frustrating seeing how Barca handled their RW problem. They bid couple of times, see Chelsea asking for ridiculous money, say feck off and go and buy Malcom. An already very good RW, with potential to be even better than Willian.

I hope we show the same reasoning and not shell out stupid money for the Brazilian or certain Croatian.

Thats what happens when you dont have a clear gameplan

 

[arthurka]

We're going to suffer some terrible football this season again i reckon.

I think your instinct might be spot on here.

 

[Patrick08]

Nothing controversial. 70m is what we should have spent on Mahrez. I'm banging my head thinking he probably wasn't on our radar for a lack of workrate. At his age and PL experience he fits the perfect profile for our RW but somehow we end up going for 29yr old Willian at that ridiculous sum. To add salt to that wound they are asking for a Martial swap

Apparently Woodward keeps dreaming about Bale who's first choice is to stay at Madrid as long as they don't cast him out and in the process has given up on so Many options unchallenged to top clubs and even title rivals.

Forget An obvious Mahrez, but even Sadio Mane who was a Willian 2.0 and perfect Mourinho player in terms or Work rate, Energy, Creativity, Movement, Tactical intelligence and Even Finishing for half the price Willian will cost now but somehow that time We ended up with More Marketable Mkh and expected that work rate Mane or Willian is known for, Totally absurd.

Also If Mahrez has a top season with city like Mo Salah had, I 'd be pretty annoyed.

 

[Ødegaard]

Hopefully those two players are a new LB and a RW.

I'm sick of seeing Ashley Young as a LB.

Unfortunately he said in the interview (going by what I've read on here) that he isn't in the market for a fullback.

 

[Sandikan]

We're going to do exceptionally well to bring in two new players with just over 2 weeks to the deadline!

I love the idea that we're working feverishly behind the scenes looking to pull something monumental off, but there's no real reason that's true, and Jose's words are wishful ideal scenario stuff.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Jose is right about one point though. It doesn't make sense to close the English transfer window before the season, if other leagues are not going to do the same. Especially in a WC year, where agents/players all want to keep the discussion postponed till end of their WC campaign.

 

[crossy1686]

Jose is right about one point though. It doesn't make sense to close the English transfer window before the season, if other leagues are not going to do the same. Especially in a WC year, where agents/players all want to keep the discussion postponed till end of their WC campaign.

Have a feeling that this window will see a lot of late moves and we'll be missing out on them.

The prices have gone stupid and no one wants to pay what they're being quoted, come deadline day in Europe, most teams are going to be stuck with players they want to offload to balance the books and we'll not be able to shop in that 'everything must go' market. Seem's utterly bizarre to close early if you ask me.