You don’t think United got even better after Wenger took over Arsenal, and Roman bought Chelsea ?
Jose Mourinho | Sacked by Roma
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Of course he's planning to go to Saudi Arabia next, imagine the loot there after being sacked early from his contract.
He was always arrogant with an edge but it felt like that didn't come at the expense of his players. The last season Real Madrid changed him, from that point he had some success like winning the league with Chelsea and a few cups but he seemed to get more like a parody of himself. More extremes in everything, more deranged and paranoid, well aware of his celebrity and playing up to it. His last year at United in particular was an astute exercise in self-protectionism at the expense of the club, so much so that his narrative from that time gets pushed to protect him. I always thought he'd be good at politics if he maintains a cultish following to this day, no matter how many times he gets sacked.
He was always arrogant with an edge but it felt like that didn't come at the expense of his players. The last season Real Madrid changed him, from that point he had some success like winning the league with Chelsea and a few cups but he seemed to get more like a parody of himself. More extremes in everything, more deranged and paranoid, well aware of his celebrity and playing up to it. His last year at United in particular was an astute exercise in self-protectionism at the expense of the club, so much so that his narrative from that time gets pushed to protect him. I always thought he'd be good at politics if he maintains a cultish following to this day, no matter how many times he gets sacked.
Defo got better, English clubs improved in Europe as a result. SAF always had an answer no matter what the competition did.
Always thought he was so confident in his younger days but so insecure now. He went from talking about how good he is to how good he was.
Chelsea for a third spell
I for one would love to see him back managing United.
Playing 3 of the bottom 4 in a row helps too!
Still, they're very much in the mix for top 4 now, largely because everyone outside of the top 3 are ridiculously inconsistent. Tough fixtures for them though towards the end of the season.
Lukaku plays for Roma now ?
Completely passed me by.
Edit.
Reminds me of the Ole-ball we played against Cardiff when we too got rid of the toxic one.
Mourinho to Liverpool please, for the Souness-esque deconstruction of the squad.
Hopefully he'll sign Erling Haaland's "cousin"
Why, so he can eat the words he used towards AW? He was an overall failure here, not helped by the board but he just seemed to not have a fight in him to make things work when they were going wrong.
It seems the media are purely pointing the finger at Jose but if you watch the interview he says it also came from above.
Woodward had form for this sort of thing for Ferdinand also
Woodward had form for this sort of thing for Ferdinand also
What year would this have been?
2016.
These were the moments where I lost the connection with my club post Fergie. I know Fergie has done worse things but he could justify it on the field. After him, All we had was charlatans who just wanted to be the focus of the media.
Jose later apologised and admitted he regretted his treatment of Bastian so sounded like it was mostly on him
https://www.tntsports.co.uk/footbal...t-at-manchester-united_sto6112959/story.shtml
What was the deal with Ferdinand, I don't recall?
There wasn’t.
They’re referring to when Woodward said he weren’t getting a new contract, told him in the dressing room and not in a meeting formal setting
Why'd he do it? I'm still not clear. Was it Jose just stamping his authority on a senior decorated pro?
I assume to force him out and free up the wage bill
in the end he didn't leave that window, Jose apologised and actually played him a few times before he eventually left for USA
Mourinho was a twat but this is a bigger underlying issue with the managers at this club. The cult of personality around the role itself attracts or makes managers into massive dickheads for no reason.
It's why the role needs to go - it needs to be stripped down and the person sitting in the role needs to be humbled and kept in place.
It's why the role needs to go - it needs to be stripped down and the person sitting in the role needs to be humbled and kept in place.
Not sure if you are being honest or sarcastic, but yes Jose is a twat.
I'm being honest - it's tough to sarcastically think that after the video
Jose is a dick, no doubt, but Schweinstiger was doing his best impression of someone on a farewell testimonial tour. He specifically says he didn’t understand the way it was done but he understood why.
Now we have Casemiro who's doing it.
From what I remember when Mourinho came to the club he was told by senior members that Bastian was basically messing United about the season before and spent more time jetting round watching his partner play tennis than he did training.
He immediately banned him from the dressing room and made him train with the kids.
Then at some point during the season changed his mind, bought him break to the first team and apologised to him
Mourinho was, and always will be, the virus.
Bastard
I thought this was well known. Rooney talked about it in some interview that no one in the dressing room had any warm relationship with him as he’d feck off to Germany when he got injured or go support his wife. It’s an easy win for Jose to gain some respect in the dressing room by banishing him right away.
Hardly a long flight though, one or two hours.
I doubt professionalism was an issue with Bastian. Strange behavior from Jose and honestly you just need to piss off the wrong person and then it falls like a house of cards.
It’s not like he’s popping over for a visit, he’d stay in Germany and rehab there. He says so himself in the interview with Neville.
Maybe thats how he saw it but i'd say its pretty short sighted. Or not, he wasn't a particularly important player at that point i guess. Still wasteful of a player who could have been useful (coming back and playing that winter being a good example of it).
We had Carrick, Fellaini, Pogba, Schneiderlin and even Blind who could step in if needed for two spots at that time. I doubt Schweinsteiger would have got much game time even if he had been fit.
Seems he predicted Xabi Alonso's success.
"Mourinho was asked which player he coached could become a great coach. The answer? Xabi Alonso. But pay attention: it is not 2024, the interview was in 2019!!"
"Mourinho was asked which player he coached could become a great coach. The answer? Xabi Alonso. But pay attention: it is not 2024, the interview was in 2019!!"
Didn't Pogba always do his rehab in Dubai, so why wasn't Mourinho applying the same rules to him?