Yeah well. He won a newly created third-tier cup to mark his descent to third-tier managership.
Jose Mourinho | Sacked by Roma
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England manager?
Roma more ambitious than us, sacking a severely underperforming manager.
Oh please, not this again.
I don't see anything wrong with Roma sacking him despite being only 5 points away from the CL spots. The team is not looking good and they're trying to get a reaction now, instead of waiting until they're 15 points away and there's no remedy like some spineless clubs do.
He lost the last final he played and even waited in the parking lot to insult the referee
I think Jose is done with club football. I would love to see Jose add to his legend by managing a national side where his tactics and approach would probably flourish.
England
Has he done Scotland yet? No? Then Celtic or Rangers are still daft enough. If not, Wrexham.
Negative tactics don't necessarily transpire to successful international management. Argentina and Italy have won most recent major tournaments playing front-foot football against much more negative sides which were also stronger quality-wise.
Until someone wins it with defensive football
Until someone wins it with defensive football after it fails 10 times, then we say "Yay!! defensive football wins NT tournaments"
Who's up for the next grift? Some club in Saudi or Qatar? Or maybe sime gullible club in the US? or maybe Portugal?
Let's see here:
00 France (attacking football)
02 Brazil (A)
04 Greece (defensive football)
06 Italy (D)
08 Spain (A)
10 Spain (D)
12 Spain (A)
14 Germany A
16 Portugal D
18 France D
20 Italy A
22 Argentina A
Looks like it shifts attack/defence every 2 tournaments, except when the same team won 3 in a row. Interesting
Hear ya point mate, but I bet Pep gets 83mln a year from those owners.... off books of corse....
Good for us then?
His record from 2001-2012 was insane, and was easily enough for him to be considered as one of the greatest managers ever. I did think that his gradually declined as a manager (though his standard for nearly 12 years before that was ridiculous) from his third and finals season at Real onwards, though since then still won trophies during his second spell at Chelsea, Man Utd and Roma.
I've said a few times before, that is work at Leiria with barely a cent to spend, leading them to their highest ever league finish at the time in 2001, and then 3rd place midway through 2001/2002 (ahead of Porto who came calling for him plus Benfica), shouldn't be overlooked. And even before we get to Porto's Champions League winning campaign, clearly their 2002/2003 season with 3 trophies including a UEFA Cup win, was stellar. Porto's value of player sales during Mourinho's time in charge, exceeded their value of purchase players (I'm not using the word profit as a I assumed that a decent chunk of transfer fees on player sales went to third parties). And at the time of the 2003 UEFA Cup final, his Porto team was built on half the budget compared to Martin O'Neil's Celtic team.
The fact that most Roma fans seem to adore him, and the Stadio Olimpico was routinely sold out (which very rarely happened before he took charge) was notable.
Clearly over the last few years though, it has become less and less worth putting up with all the controversy that comes with him. And as other people have said, his management man skills have decline, and he hasn't been able (or willing) to adapt to the extend that Fergie and Ancelotti did.
I've said a few times before, that is work at Leiria with barely a cent to spend, leading them to their highest ever league finish at the time in 2001, and then 3rd place midway through 2001/2002 (ahead of Porto who came calling for him plus Benfica), shouldn't be overlooked. And even before we get to Porto's Champions League winning campaign, clearly their 2002/2003 season with 3 trophies including a UEFA Cup win, was stellar. Porto's value of player sales during Mourinho's time in charge, exceeded their value of purchase players (I'm not using the word profit as a I assumed that a decent chunk of transfer fees on player sales went to third parties). And at the time of the 2003 UEFA Cup final, his Porto team was built on half the budget compared to Martin O'Neil's Celtic team.
The fact that most Roma fans seem to adore him, and the Stadio Olimpico was routinely sold out (which very rarely happened before he took charge) was notable.
Clearly over the last few years though, it has become less and less worth putting up with all the controversy that comes with him. And as other people have said, his management man skills have decline, and he hasn't been able (or willing) to adapt to the extend that Fergie and Ancelotti did.
Yeah it sounds great
Yeah, think this gets overlooked often as we'll always talk about his achievements with Porto, Chelsea, Inter etc. His Leiria episode was a big success as well. Wonder how would his Benfica stint had gone if the board/president decided to keep him back in December 2000. His last game before getting sacked was a 3-0 win over rivals Sporting. We'll never know but perhaps he'd have led Benfica to big things like he did with Porto.
I didn’t even know that he’d managed Benfica, that’s interesting.
You are right what you say, but Morocco got a lot of plaudits at last world cup playing a counter attacking game.
Yeah, only for about 3 months though. It was his very first managerial job after being assistant manager at few clubs through the 90s.
Remember their form being pretty dire before they sacked him. Doubt he wins that final and the players were absolutely done with him.
Negative tactics usually work better in knockout games. Hence the reason he’s won a few European trophy’s.
Ireland are looking for a manager
O'Rinho
Maureen O'Rinho
I still fail to acknowledge we’re crap. So while you’re right. I still have it my head that the better our rivals the better we will become. Maybe because of how I remember us reacting to Wenger’s Arsenal and then Chelsea during the Roman era
You remember a very different football club.
Yes.
He has an excuse at almost every club.
Should take time out, see if the Portugal job comes up post-Euros and then take that. Retire after.
Surely the absolute last thing this exciting Portugal side want is Mourinho taking over?
Probably but I think his time is up at club level but his methods might just be able to be still good enough to win an international tournament.
Nearly all managers change clubs every few years and all spells will have negatives if you look for them yet only Mourinho is being looked at with such vitriol.
Ramos doesnt sky a penalty vs Bayern and doesnt score a last gasp leveler vs Atletico and we are looking at a very different Real Madrid recent history. It is very fine margins.
His cnutish methods won't work in any level of this sport.
Already linked to Al-Shabab. Though apparently he's offered himself to ADL for the Napoli job next season 
The shift to pressing and possessional football has completely left him behind. His teams used to be energetic and would often have the strongest first XI in that league, but since most teams press nowadays what does that leave him? Good tactical nous but often poor footballing style, above average in the transfer market but not great, and worst of all an annoying personality that alienates and burns bridges everywhere he goes.
I can't see any top club going anywhere near him anymore so he's likely to take jobs in the oil leagues now or if he's lucky get drafted into a club in crisis Allardyce style.
I can't see any top club going anywhere near him anymore so he's likely to take jobs in the oil leagues now or if he's lucky get drafted into a club in crisis Allardyce style.
Yes. Just because your bosses are being stupid doesn't mean you should turn into a toxic cloud
If you have genuine issues with their attitude and think it's negatively affecting the team, talk about to your bosses and have them excluded from the team. If your bosses decide they don't care, either quit, or shut up and do your job
Ref correctly awards Scholes goal vs Porto at Old Trafford, there might not have been a Mourinho. The fine margins that made him a top manager is also why he is getting fired.
The difference is that very few top managers leave such a trail of fighting key players, management, insulting other coaches, match officials and lately getting more red cards than even players on the field who are involved physically