Smalling Stones would be an exciting line of defense for the coming years.
John Stones
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Sign him up
He has enough quality to qualify from a group with PSV and Moscow though
Stones for £50m would be a good purchase. Basically the same as buying Rio for £30m
He will? Jones is fairly nimble but I wouldn't class him as very fast. Smalling and Koscielny are probably the fastest in the league. I haven't seen Rojo ever blitz, either.
I agree with this. I think....
no, sorry that's not the full picture. As Henry pointed out on MNF, our best attacker, Martial is being instructed to hog the touchline. What's the point in that? No wonder we are toothless. That is misuse of an attacker yet again by the manager and that's what I mean - he doesn't use what he has, rather than moaning at what he doesn't have. A good coach would find a way, until the time comes when he is able to add more players. Get on with it.
If Jose becomes manager fine bring the lad in. I wouldn't want him under LvG's mishandling or the inexperience of Giggs.
Every top club will be looking at him at this point, not just those in England.
Even Pique openly praised him and put him in his World XI, I think.
Yeah I agree with what you are saying but with Depay he's a work in progress as is Martial to rely on them is not great. Mata is a square peg and not sure what's happened to Rooney. RVPs legs went and Falcao was never the same. ADM didn't want to be here it looked like so in those regards LVG has had very bad luck more than him being the cause imo. We have also been unlucky with Shaw and Valencia as in this formation your two attacking full backs are very important. I think the shape he has us playing is excellent but when we are hitting the final 3rd we are predictable due to our personel rather than our playing style. The quality is not there atm.
sorry but you're just making excuses for LVG. Whilst I agree we have been left short of options particularly up front, the young players will not gain confidence by having their normal attacking instincts curbed. That's all down to the coach.
Signing him is the priority for me this summer. He's probably the most talented young English player around at the moment.
If LVG stayss he will probably go for Vlaar.
If LvG that might be all we are left with. The top players must be thinking our club is turning into a madhouse.
If we don't get top four, we might want to lower our ambitions a bit.
We absolutely have to get him.
I can see several clubs chasing him this summer though.
I can see several clubs chasing him this summer though.
I think Shaw and Sterling are up there with him when it comes to English talent but yeah we should do everything we can to sign him.
coming through under van gaal really ruined iniesta and muller etc ! imagine the players they might have been if they came through under a manager that didn't curb their instincts.
Honestly you can't believe every narrrative you read in a paper about how he curbs instincts. He has brought excellent young players through in the past, that should provide more evidence than some journalists narrative. United lack movement going forward at the moment that's for certain but van gaal hasn't done any harm to young players in the past, quite the opposite, so the two should not be confused
Get it done before the Euros and it inflates to £100m.
A player to focus on, sure. But THE priority, given the state our attack is in? Not for me.
He'll be playing for England, his price is far more likely to drop.
His price will actually go up IMO because he will be one of the few shining lights on the pitch for England.
Id be for this under the condition that it doesn't affect our investment in the attack. Our defence hasn't been a long standing issue unlike our attack.
If DDG leaves then perhaps we may need this level of investment. Otherwise Jones/Rojo/Blind should be enough.
If DDG leaves then perhaps we may need this level of investment. Otherwise Jones/Rojo/Blind should be enough.
I was only joking. In truth I'm not sure if he'll even play, Smalling-Cahill seems to be the preferred choice at CB now.
Not making excuses just telling you how I see it Blunder. I don't have any great affinity for LVG but I do like the way he has us set up. Just think the personnel is wrong and in that regard he's been very unlucky. Without any cutting edge up too we are boring as hell. No shots no goals slow tumescent football. But the shape he has us is excellent and the way we build getting the ball from our 18 to the attacking third is superb. What lets us down in my opinion is Mata right wing, no attacking full backs. Plus a top winger and a centre forward all of which LVG has tried to address and as previously mentioned been unfortunate. Excuses maybe your right but that's how I see it.
I believe my eyes, not what the papers write. If anything, the papers are catching up with my thoughts of the last year.
If the movement is collectively failing, and passing too slow, you can't say that it's just a few players out of form. It's the system, and therefore the coach.
Rather than try to adapt the system to the players he does have, he continues with something that doesn't work.
I'd never criticise him for youth development opportunities but I do blame him for the senior players playing within themselves
At what point does it cease being 'bad luck' and be recognised as bad planning/bad management?
Hard to define but that point for me hasn't be reached yet! No doubt LVG has been unlucky how much has been down to him underestimating the importance of squad size also is another question.
any chances we're paying a ginormous fee for Stones this January?
Apparently, some French bloke who broke the news for Martial just tweeted it.
Apparently, some French bloke who broke the news for Martial just tweeted it.
Seeing as they knocked Chelsea's big bids back in the summer coupled with the fact we haven't got Champions League football, nor can we say with any certainty that we will have next season it's very unlikely. Unless of course we offer something ridiculous like 70/80m etc
They won't let him go mid-season.
No way Everton will do business in January but it would be great for us, rather than buying another LB we can get Smalling's long term CB partner and use Blind at LB until Shaw returns.
Tweeted that we were interested, but never ever going to happen in January as they just don't have to sell, this new tv money is going to put an end to the traditional big English clubs hoovering up the premiership talent, we are just going to have to look abroad imo.
Most likely total bs, but prising a centre back away from Everton in Jan for £40m+ has more chance of success than if we were going for Lukaku as they've hardly been solid at the back. Also makes sense with our left back situation with Blind, too much sense for us.
Doubtful, just means the smaller teams will have to pay big wages and get a better fee for their players who make a good showing for themselves a few years down the line.
Would be a good backup for Blind for sure.
Right.
Van gaals style I think just needs world class players in the front 4 positions. All of them. The first 2 thirds of the pitch is fine, but he doesn't seem to know how to get a functioning attack if the players aren't top players already.
Is he better than the new Duncan Edwards and Mcmare though?