John Stones | Everton say they will reject all bids

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They will get a lot more than that for him next summer.
A lot more.

You will have City falling over themselves to buy him as welll next year.

He could well be in the 60 million + bracket
 
Ducklegs said:
They will get a lot more than that for him next summer.
A lot more.

You will have City falling over themselves to buy him as welll next year.

He could well be in the 60 million + bracket
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Who knows, maybe even 100m +. Once Real Madrid get involved, he could even break the transfer record.
 
Ducklegs said:
They will get a lot more than that for him next summer.
A lot more.

You will have City falling over themselves to buy him as welll next year.

He could well be in the 60 million + bracket
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:wenger:

You think he'll be the most expensive defender ever?
 
I'm liking the moral outrage at Everton not accepting the money.

Of course they should have accepted the 20 million bid, and offered Mourinho a blowjob for honouring them by deigning to bid for one of their players. It is the way of things.
 
Brwned said:
:wenger:

You think he'll be the most expensive defender ever?
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At 37.5 million he would of been the 13 most expensive transfer in history if Everton had excepted it and also funnily enough the second most expensive defender ever.

The most expensive defender ever David Luiz at £50 million and who would of thought that mug was worth £50 million? Nobody.

Not quite so stupid roll eyes worthy now is it?

No didn't think so.
 
It is every bit as stupid now as it was a couple of minutes ago, yes. Absolutely fecking mental I'd say.
 
SilentWitness said:
I honestly don't see how we aren't thinking logically. I'd rather reject 40m now if we don't have suitable targets lined up than panic buy and waste that money and keep Stones who is still a very good player of us while bring in the targets we have made and can get. It would also mean there is potential to get the same or more next season or being able to keep him depending on what happens. The fact is that we don't overly need that 40m at this moment in time more than we need John Stones given our CB and defensive situation, it would just be very nice to have that additional money.

There are pros and cons to both.
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I think it comes down to Martinez' confidence he'll have a strong season and not lose any value. If he thinks that's nailed on, it seems reasonable to me to risk it since Stones won't be on a big contract for this year (so that's a fair amount of added value right there) and you only have Jagielka and this Funes Mori fella at CB.
 
Wonder what José will have to say about this whole thing tomorrow morning. Will he be publicly angry or just act like he isn't bothered? Hmm.
 
Brwned said:
It is every bit as stupid now as it was a couple of minutes ago, yes. Absolutely fecking mental I'd say.
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Well, not it isn't.

Because what YOU are doing is trying to apply logic and common sense to the transfer market.

In what world is Raheem Sterling worth £50+ million pounds?
In what world is David Luiz worth £50 million pounds?

Laughable amounts of money and hugely more than the players are actually worth, yet someone has paid it.

Chelsea have offered to make him the second most expensive defender IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL already with their offer.
You can write it off as mental, the evidence of the stupidity and greed of football clubs is right there in front of you.

I'll have a bet with you right now, Everton will not sell untill they see Sterling type money on the table.
 
They will not be able to get much more for him next season. He is already close to the most expensive defender ever bracket. Everton not accepting is a principle thing.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
They will not be able to get much more for him next season. He is already close to the most expensive defender ever bracket. Everton not accepting is a principle thing.
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Spot on.
 
Looks like Martinez has ticked the 'Reject all offers' box.
 
In all honesty it's a miracle Mourinho's held out this long. Wouldn't be surprised to see a deal lined up really quickly in the next couple days for Garay/Umtiti etc...
 
Where have Everton got all their bills from? £30m on Lukaku give or take and happily rejecting well over already inflated prices for their youngsters. Good for them. I just hope Stones acts like Baines and is pro about it.

I also reckon, like Modric, who Chelsea failed in a whole summer with, Stones will end up going cheaper for no reason whatsoever.....to Man United next summer. Have that.
 
Ducklegs said:
They will get a lot more than that for him next summer.
A lot more.

You will have City falling over themselves to buy him as welll next year.

He could well be in the 60 million + bracket
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Typical English overhype the flavor of the day BS
 
legball said:
I thought Chelsea are transfer gods that get everything done in a snap? oh, wait..
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It's a lot easier when clubs are willing to sell their players, it's getting those players for as cheap as they did which really made Chelsea 'transfer gods'
 
Zen said:
I also reckon, like Modric, who Chelsea failed in a whole summer with, Stones will end up going cheaper for no reason whatsoever.....to Man United next summer. Have that.
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That's crossed my mind as well...
 
Nice to see another club at the receiving end of Everton's stubbornness. 37-40mil is a crazy sum. I'm not sure which is more unbelievable - Chelsea offering that much, or Everton actually turning it down. Am just glad we didn't get involved.
 
I guess this new TV deal has made PL teams less obligated to sell.

Stones and Behraino, are two sagas i thought would be done by now with the reported fees being tossed aruond.
 
iBoss said:
They will get a maximum of £40 million. Which is already too much but whatever.
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As I've said, I don't rate him all that much, and I am not saying what he is "worth".
I am saying what the attitudes of Everton and the two plastic clubs are.

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Ducklegs said:
Well, not it isn't.

Because what YOU are doing is trying to apply logic and common sense to the transfer market.

In what world is Raheem Sterling worth £50+ million pounds?
In what world is David Luiz worth £50 million pounds?

Laughable amounts of money and hugely more than the players are actually worth, yet someone has paid it.

Chelsea have offered to make him the second most expensive defender IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL already with their offer.
You can write it off as mental, the evidence of the stupidity and greed of football clubs is right there in front of you.

I'll have a bet with you right now, Everton will not sell untill they see Sterling type money on the table.
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Historically attacking players always go for a significant more than defenders

There's a reason why, if you take the anomaly that is David Luiz out of the equation, you don't see any other defender going for 50 million.

Stones will not fetch 60 million at this juncture in his career
 
golden_blunder said:
Historically attacking players always go for a significant more than defenders

There's a reason why, if you take the anomaly that is David Luiz out of the equation, you don't see any other defender going for 50 million.

Stones will not fetch 60 million at this juncture in his career
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Trying to apply logic to football transfers, why bother.
Everton are clearly holding out for more money, there is only a 12.5 million pound gap between the offer they have declined and and a figure that would make him the most expensive defender ever.

You have a plastic club with no concept of value doing the bidding on one side and an overly emotional stubborn chairman holding the contract of the player on the other.

You know he isn't worth the money being discussed now let alone more, I know this, however it isn't the greatest leap, or the most absurd statement ever given the situation, clubs involved, length of contract, age and nationality of player, wealth involved and gap between the the offer and the price that will make him the most expensive defender ever, that it could quite easily hit and exceed that figure.
 
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For John Stones to go for 60 million next season he would have to win the European Championship with England and be the player of the tournament. Everton are not rejecting offers because they think he could fetch more next season. They simply do not want to lose him especially this late in the season.
 
Ducklegs said:
Well, not it isn't.

Because what YOU are doing is trying to apply logic and common sense to the transfer market.

In what world is Raheem Sterling worth £50+ million pounds?
In what world is David Luiz worth £50 million pounds?

Laughable amounts of money and hugely more than the players are actually worth, yet someone has paid it.

Chelsea have offered to make him the second most expensive defender IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL already with their offer.
You can write it off as mental, the evidence of the stupidity and greed of football clubs is right there in front of you.

I'll have a bet with you right now, Everton will not sell untill they see Sterling type money on the table.
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David Luiz was far more established than Stones, and Sterling is a far better player (at the moment), but he is also an attckign player which usually cost more.

Chelsea went all in for him cause they seem to need a CB right now, and there aren't many alternatives. In my opinion, they won't be back next year and certainly not with this high amount of money when there are better alternatives right there who cost less. Obviously, clubs will be interested in Stones if he continues to progress, but I would be very surprised if any club offers them near 40m pounds next year. 30m was already mental.
 
There is no reason to not pay the £130 million for him right now considering his potential in a few years time. Would help avoid a bidding war against all the other big clubs too.

haha what un earth are you guys smoking uptop? he is worth £25million max
 
How good is this lad? I've seen him play once or twice and to be honest I've seen Evans put in just as good performances.
 
Apparently Martinez has confirmed that we didn't actually make that £37m bid.
 
Trizy said:
How good is this lad? I've seen him play once or twice and to be honest I've seen Evans put in just as good performances.
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It is more how good he can become, rather then how good he is right now.

I don't think that at this moment he is good enough to start for a top 4 club.
 
Ducklegs said:
Trying to apply logic to football transfers, why bother.
Everton are clearly holding out for more money, there is only a 12.5 million pound gap between the offer they have declined and and a figure that would make him the most expensive defender ever.

You have a plastic club with no concept of value doing the bidding on one side and an overly emotional stubborn chairman holding the contract of the player on the other.

You know he isn't worth the money being discussed now let alone more, I know this, however it isn't the greatest leap, or the most absurd statement ever given the situation, clubs involved, length of contract, age and nationality of player, wealth involved and gap between the the offer and the price that will make him the most expensive defender ever, that it could quite easily hit and exceed that figure.
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They're rejecting bids out of principle. He'll be gone next summer for a maximum of £40 million. No one is going to even go near £60 million, that's just daft.
 
iBoss said:
They're rejecting bids out of principle. He'll be gone next summer for a maximum of £40 million. No one is going to even go near £60 million, that's just daft.
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Who would of predicted what prices have been paid for players over the past couple of years.

Lets see what happens.
 
Stones will not go for more than 40 million. How many years has he left on his contract, 3? If he doesn't sign on the pressure is already on next summer for Everton to get the maximum fee out of him.

There may well be another 50 million defender in the future given the steady market inflation, but Stones is a few years early on that timeline.
 
Didn't we buy Rio for 30m? He was more or less on the same bracket as Stones, if Stones has another great season.
 
Isotope said:
Didn't we buy Rio for 30m? He was more or less on the same bracket as Stones, if Stones has another great season.
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To be fair, Rio was 23 and already accumulated 2-3 of great seasons for Leeds, including a Champions League semifinal appearance, before he was signed by United. I'm not saying Stones would not deserve such amount at some point, but that's quite some hair-pulling stuff at the moment when one considers both his age and his current accomplishments.
 
Kakeru said:
To be fair, Rio was 23 and already accumulated 2-3 of great seasons for Leeds, including a Champions League semifinal appearance, before he was signed by United. I'm not saying Stones would not deserve such amount at some point, but that's quite some hair-pulling stuff at the moment when one considers both his age and his current accomplishments.
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Guess it would be similar to when Rio went from West Ham to Leeds for 18 million(which was a record for a defender at the time).
 
Isotope said:
Didn't we buy Rio for 30m? He was more or less on the same bracket as Stones, if Stones has another great season.
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He wasn't. He was probably the best CB in the league back then, Stones isn't even the best CB in Everton.
 
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