Pretty much.
And no club in the world would be crazy enough to buy Jones for 30m. For Stones, he'd find clubs lining up at that price. It's easy to see why.
John Stones | Everton say they will reject all bids
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And no club in the world would be crazy enough to buy Jones for 30m. For Stones, he'd find clubs lining up at that price. It's easy to see why.
Some 'fans' are bloody stupid. There was only a small handful of idiots last night booing him/giving him abuse and the vast majority of the crowd were applauding him when he was on the ball and also applauding him when he came off last night, but some idiots like to spoil that. Apparently he was crying at a service station last night and Naismith had to tell people to stop putting pressure on him.
Terrible. The vocal majority really can destroy a persons emotions much faster than the majority can build them up. I feel for the lad.
Everton Football Club has rejected a transfer request from John Stones.
Since the start of the transfer window, we have resolutely turned down offers from another Premier League football club for our player.
John is not for sale and he will remain a highly valued member of our first team squad.
Bill Kenwright
Chairman, Everton Football Club
Since the start of the transfer window, we have resolutely turned down offers from another Premier League football club for our player.
John is not for sale and he will remain a highly valued member of our first team squad.
Bill Kenwright
Chairman, Everton Football Club
That might be the end of that for this window I reckon.
Where's Blatter with the "slave" comments?
I'll be surprised if Everton do turn down a £40m bid (latest was £30m, right?), regardless of their current stance.
I would have been surprised before too, but after all that the board and Martinez has said i'd hate to think what would happen if they did considering the fans are already terribly disgruntled with our business this window.
I would too and I hope we go in with that bid.
Hope he stops showing up for training and stuff if this isn't wrapped up soon.
On the face of it I'd agree, but just can't see how they can go back on it now. They'd have a mutiny amongst their supporters. For that reason, I reckon it might be no deal for now.
Good for them.
He can't really do that though, can he? He can't just not play because he's got so long left on his contract.
He should've handed in the transfer request weeks ago and refused to play those first 3 matches. Only thing that can push through a move now I reckon is an offer that they'd be idiots to turn down.
I can't see you selling now. Chelsea handled it the wrong way and with opinion of Kenwright at an all-time low I can't see him selling this window. Big week where you'll probably need to make 3 signings including Mori before the window shuts.
I'd love to see this happen for once. Sticking it the other club. Both De Gea and Stones transfer situations are a breath of fresh air.
I imagine Evans has been watching the Stones situation to see how it develops. Could well be West Brom for him now if he goes.
This is the crux of it now basically. Stones has left it too late with his request and Everton have gone too far in what they've said to sell now. Stones is the type of lad where he'll accept our decision though i think, i don't blame him at all either. When a big club come calling it's going to be hard to turn down even if you're not ready for it. I think he'll realise if he does stay that it was the right move as Carragher was right in saying that if we don't get into Europe and compete with the clubs at the upper end of the table he'll get his move eventually.
Eventually clubs will get into legal troubles stopping players leaving after written transfer requests. There must be some UK/EU laws against restraint of trade that would favour the players vs the clubs.
Not if they have signed a contract tying them to the club for X amount of years
If a law like that came in the transfer market would probably collapse which would help nobody
That would be very unfair to the clubs, especially when it's a player who's only 1 year into a 5 year contract.
It's only a matter of time - it'll go to the wire and despite Everton saying "he's not for sale", Chelsea having unsettled the player will put a huge bid at the last minute and Everton will be 'forced' to accept, given the player is unhappy at being at the club and that helps nobody.
We've seen it a million times and it's the same with De Gea (and pretty much every Madrid/Barca transfer).
I'd be amazed if both are at their respective clubs this time next week.
We've seen it a million times and it's the same with De Gea (and pretty much every Madrid/Barca transfer).
I'd be amazed if both are at their respective clubs this time next week.
But are there non-football industries where the same thing applies? Where you can never leave the company you work for to move to a better job because of a contract you signed when you were young? I'm not so sure that it would stand up if it was legally tested at the highest level.
You can leave at the end of the contract
In the non football world it is different although Some companies give employees contracts where you cannot work for the competition for a few years.
Eh? Employment contracts are a thing.
Fair play to them.
Martinez was pretty quick to be shot of Wigan. You know that if one of the big Spanish clubs came in for him he'd be out of Everton at the drop of a hat. Don't get how he can play this moral high ground card here with a player wanting to move on to bigger and better things.
Just like when Stones left Barnsley for Everton. Chelsea would be the next step up for him in his career.
Just like when Stones left Barnsley for Everton. Chelsea would be the next step up for him in his career.
True. It's that, or another massive move in January, with Mourinho slamming as much pressure on Everton in the build-up.
Wonder if Mourinho wishes he'd got his pal Mendes to get him Otamendi
I don't think you can say the law should be applied differently to football than any other industry. Maybe if your contract says you can't leave your football club to go to another club until your club says so then it would be legally binding. But if you can show that the contract was unfair and you can make a much better living elsewhere, and your club would be well compensated for you leaving, then I think you would win. The same thing has happened in the music industry where artists have gotten out of long term contracts to change record company for much more money.
Unless this was your club after him, right? Then you'd be hoping they'd sell.
Don't think so. I think he wants to get a young CB that will grow into the team and be a cornerstone for the next decade rather than a more short term signing that's of similar age to what we have.
I would never think any less of the club or manager of they refused to sell even if it was Utd involvedUnless this was your club after him, right? Then you'd be hoping they'd sell.
Don't think so. I think he wants to get a young CB that will grow into the team and be a cornerstone for the next decade rather than a more short term signing that's of similar age to what we have.
I didn't even really want Stones before. I do now. Hopefully we free him from his scouse hell.
So if Neymar or Gareth Bale handed in transfer request and wanted badly to go to United it wouldn't annoy or bother you? You'd applaud their clubs for refusing?
Find that hard to belive but fair enough if so. Not how I feel.
They refused to sell us Baines..I think us United fans are best to give a view as we are on both sides..poachers, and also poached at..You guys never really lose your best players..Unless this was your club after him, right? Then you'd be hoping they'd sell.
Don't think so. I think he wants to get a young CB that will grow into the team and be a cornerstone for the next decade rather than a more short term signing that's of similar age to what we have.
So you wouldn't be interested in Jonny Evans? He's left quite an impression at Stamford Bridge in the past.
No not at all. I'd be annoyed that the transfer didn't happen but wouldn't blame the club who refuse to sell
immediate appeal to Amnesty International and the Court of Human Rights to release him from his inhumane captivity.
Its a contract that the two parties have agreed upon...you cannot unilaterally break a contract without some recourse..for Everton such recourse which would be a transfer fee..Im sure Everton would sell if Chelsea pay whatever their reservation fee right now is..but its probably much higher than 40 mil..
And dare I say it..the scousers with Suarez two years ago too
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