I admit I got pissed off when we signed Alan Smith.
But I supported him as soon as signed.
And he's since proved to be a fans favourite.
But I supported him as soon as signed.
And he's since proved to be a fans favourite.
Jermaine Defoe
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CnutOfAllCnuts said:Not when you can get strikers like Cisse for £14m
Rafa's got rid, despite him having a broken leg
The man's a genius
Like I said, it would be very similar to the pairing of Yorke and Cole. And with players like Saha and Rossi to come off the bench I think we would be sorted up front. We became too dependent on Ruud, moving back to a rotation of strikers would be good for the club I reckon.
Exactly. Except i dont think we need him at all. 15 million would be a real rip off.Davo said:
KaiserSoze666 said:
I agree. Still, Torres would be the better option.
Oh, and, wrong forum.
WeasteDevil said:
I've seen it all now!
So you reckon Torres is really worth nearly £25M
vijay said:
He's worth just as much as Rooney.
feck!
why the hell do we want so many shit spurs players
why the hell do we want so many shit spurs players
orton2005 said:feck!
why the hell do we want so many shit spurs players
Spurs aren't shit mate.
WeasteDevil said:
No way.. He is overrated...
If we replace him for Ruud, how goals do really expect out of him in a season?
I'm bored of the spastic talk now. See you later
vijay said:
Overrated? He's probably the best young number 9 on the planet.
People say Torres is overrated because he had one average season, same with Defoe, he was great 2 seasons ago.
Jon Paul said:
On what do they base these opinions however? Some stats on a webpage?
We should've signed him years ago. Great player
WeasteDevil said:
Probably, or could be the muppets on Sky who get their opinions from a webpage and then broadcast it as fact.
Lets think about this. Defoe and Saha are similar players. Rooney, who we should rightly be building our team around, works well with Saha and will likely work well with Defoe. Saha is injured a lot, and we need cover.
Defoe is a good target and I hope we get him.
Defoe is a good target and I hope we get him.
Hopefully not for 15 million. 7 or 8 is fine.Bilbo said:
WeasteDevil said:
Best No 9
His form has dipped in the last couple of seasons.I dont see any point in replacing a top class finisher with a player whose finishing leaves a lot to be deserved. We would be lucky to get more than 15 goals out of him.
Don't know if we'll be buying Defoe and don't particularly care, but for the love of alcohol, will you lot stop embarrassing yourselves claiming he's useless. He's a fantastic player who was left on the bench at Spurs due to Jol's preference for the little/large combo and the fact that it was Keane who happened to be in form at the right time. The extended spell on the bench probably played havoc on the lad's confidence as it would any striker in the world. As for him not getting into the English squad, you will probably understand that if you can somehow first understand Walcott's inclusion.
Why the hell do we want a 5'5 spurs retard!!! Look there is only 2 strikers worthy of getting and they are Torres or Trezeguet. Anyone else will be a waste of space and a step in the wrong direction
No one said he was useless. He is a good striker.suresh said:
vijay said:Best No 9
I dont see any point in replacing a top class finisher with a player whose finishing leaves a lot to be deserved. We would be lucky to get more than 15 goals out of him.
Vijay watches so many Atletico Madrid games, he's in the know!
the last time i watched defoe play was in the spurs v gooners derby. spurs went 1- 0 up and were trying to hang on for the win - then eventually the point.
when defoe came on he gave nothing. spurs were punting the ball up field and not once did he run for it - even when the ball was kicked out of the keeper's hands.
if he had been playing throughout the game and was tired i could understand him not showing for the ball or making any attempt to put the defence under pressure but he came off the bench and should have been fresh.
For him that situation i.e spurs up against arsenal and going for their first derby win in a lot of years would have been a chance to show what he could do for the team besides scoring goals and if they had won he could have covered himself in glory - all he had to do was give everytihing he had for ten or fifteen minutes.
he did feck all - sven was watching - defoe did not make the world cup squad.
I wouldn't want someone with that attitude at united
when defoe came on he gave nothing. spurs were punting the ball up field and not once did he run for it - even when the ball was kicked out of the keeper's hands.
if he had been playing throughout the game and was tired i could understand him not showing for the ball or making any attempt to put the defence under pressure but he came off the bench and should have been fresh.
For him that situation i.e spurs up against arsenal and going for their first derby win in a lot of years would have been a chance to show what he could do for the team besides scoring goals and if they had won he could have covered himself in glory - all he had to do was give everytihing he had for ten or fifteen minutes.
he did feck all - sven was watching - defoe did not make the world cup squad.
I wouldn't want someone with that attitude at united
Agreed. But where did £15m come from anyway, let alone this rumour?amolbhatia100 said:
He hasn't warranted a place in the Spurs side for much of last season. They surely could not insist on that price. £8m would be fair.
WeasteDevil said:
There are better things to do in life than watching Atletico every week end
I reckon you won't do that either.
Forwards are strange, they very rarely work well on their own up front. It's all about combinations. Cole and Yorke together just had something when they played together, but even they couldn't conjure up something on the night of 26/05/99, it required two subs to do it.
Running a football club is not like playing CM in reality.
Running a football club is not like playing CM in reality.
vijay said:
WeasteDevil said:
The problem is in finding the right two. Easier said than done, and although managers seem to be willing to give it time to fluorish, the patience of the fans has always been notoriously thin. Blame is usually assigned to the least favoured player.
vijay said:
I haven't watched Atletico every game, no, about a third of their games maxium. I simply know a good player when I see one.
If you want to start searching, I am one of those that said we didn't "need" Rooney, but I was delighted when we signed him - but still thought that SAF had got his priorities wrong.
Ruud is off however, and we do need to sign a centre forward. If you look at which is the best available and for the long term, then it is Torres. Defoe would be a good signing however.
I don't give a feck about the numbers in money terms, only the numbers of goals scored, and both would work very well with Rooney IMHO.
Number7 said:
Do you want a medal for that?
with due respect to defoe, he isn't the tallest lad around so i assume
man united ain't playing high ball/crosses to him for headers if he is signed up to lead the attack?
man united ain't playing high ball/crosses to him for headers if he is signed up to lead the attack?
WeasteDevil said:
By losing Ruud, we are effectively losing 25 goals per season. Torres offers a bit more to the attack than Ruud but I dont think he can compensate for that with goals.
jasonrh said:
Rooney was a teenanger when he came with us. You cant compare him with the English midget.
FWIW Defoe would be a waste of money at this price (as if!!!). He doesn't offer anything more than we already have in Rossi, Saha and Ole. Given the need to spread the money wisely, if SAF thinks it necessary to add a fifth striker then Trezeguet would be a much cheaper option than Torres or Defoe - 29 goals in 41 games last season (6 in the CL where the refs weren't bent). Failing that, Teves looks a better prospect and cheaper than Defoe. SAF isn't daft. Any big bucks will be spent on a couple of quality midfield players. And now that there are a couple of teams worth of quality Italian based players on the market, watch the asking prices for everyone else plummet.
devilish said:
You were adamantly against his transfer, thought it was ridiculous to pay for potential, and claimed he couldn't get into the Everton side.
I'm glad you've changed your tune.
Number7 said:
If a player is good then I would want him. I mean I wouldnt say no for Gerrard, Lampard, Terry or Ashley Cole. Yet Spurs reserve is nowhere near to RVN and we all know it.
You didn't want Rooney.
No good, I guess.
No good, I guess.
jasonrh said:
Ive changed the tune when he did what I wanted him to do ie prove himself at the highest level. He did that during the Euro. The British tend to overrate their talent. With every Rooney they are hundreds of Defoes, Cadamarteris and Jeffers that had failed to reach the expectations set.