vijay said:
500k? 1m?
Jermaine Defoe
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500k? 1m?
If your going for Defoe you should just sign the better and cheaper version of him that is Leroy Lita.
Basically, anyone arguing that Defoe is crap / not very good, is clueless. He is a good player. End of.
Whether he would be a good signing for United or not, is a toatally different discussion. Something that could be discussed at length, and no doubt Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime like Devilish will.
Whether he would be a good signing for United or not, is a toatally different discussion. Something that could be discussed at length, and no doubt Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime like Devilish will.
To be fair, it's almost impossible nowadays just to rely on local talents in modern football, although it's very important that we bring our own youth through.WeasteDevil said:
Not sure if we're really in for a striker (Ole, Smith, Rossi, Saha, Rooney), but Fergie needs to adress that midfield spot
vijay said:
Clueless!
I think Henry for £5m would be an excellent signing.
alot of experienced posters now clutching at straws with this Torres crap
I've got no idea how good the boy is or how he plays, but I do know we've got no track record of prising Spanish or Italian players away from their home leagues
I've got no idea how good the boy is or how he plays, but I do know we've got no track record of prising Spanish or Italian players away from their home leagues
snootyjim said:
wolfshead said:
If one of the best young forwards in the world becomes available, I would expect that we would at least show an interest.
there's the rub BernardWeasteDevil said:
wolfshead said:
Well, he's not going to stay at Atletico Madrid for much longer, that's for sure.
For the right price we can get
Lara Dickenmann - AM/FC - 21 years old - exceptional talent
Woman Footballer of the year in Switzerland
Lara Dickenmann - AM/FC - 21 years old - exceptional talent
Woman Footballer of the year in Switzerland
Hmmm!
We don't have a bird's team though do we?
We don't have a bird's team though do we?
Is it against the rules?
I don't really know
I don't really know
From what I've seen of Defoe, his very much like Rooney in his style of play. If we don't manage to get a decent striker (eg. Torres, Trez, Toni), Defoe for anything under £8m would do.
FreakyJim said:
I think it must be against the rules. They would have to construct a dressing room just for her for a start.
WeasteDevil said:
That's a good point...but if she's alright with dressing up in front of men, then she should be allowed to play...
It would be fun.
There would be far too many blokes with stiffies running down the tunnel. It wouldn't work.
Including me.WeasteDevil said:
Was I made to look an idiot!!!
Your wrong mate. The stiffness in lost blpokes especially in opposing sides would stop 'em from stopping her scoring goals... Hence she woudl be a new Dennis Law breaking all sorts of scoring records..........WeasteDevil said:
WeasteDevil said:
His being a good player is a matter of opinion.CnutOfAllCnuts said:
He's being crap is largely concensus that even a fool like Erickson realised
it. Becasue Jol ain't wrong to bench the selfish midget..See Defoe is obviously a good player. And he obviiously was quite rubbish last season. Either way i dont think we need him. Wouldnt mind him for about 6 to 7 million. Would rather us not and spend heavily on the midfield if we're cash strapped.
amolbhatia100 said:
I dont think we are cash strapped, not now we've solf Ruud
Far from it, I just dont think there is any available striker who can score like Ruud and I dont think there is any available midfielder who can improve our midfield
OldRed1 said:Including me.
Was I made to look an idiot!!!
I was somewhere in the middle of France at the time we signed him, I remember getting the news on BBC World in my hotel room, and I wasn't exactly thrilled about it myself. The rest, as they say, is history.
wolfshead said:
Sadly the last 6 months or so has shown that Ruud is past his best in terms of all round contribution to the team, and if he is causing disruption with team-mates and has fallen out with SAF, then there is only one way he can go. And I say that as a big fan of Ruud, obviously.Davo said:
I really dont rate Defoe at all and dont understand those who do. For me he is not actually that sharp in terms of reaction around the box, and outside of the box his build up play is weak. Everytime he comes up against a top team he is poor, Ferdinand for instance easily deals with him everytime. Very over-rated. Id rather we give Rossi a go than buy Defoe, Rossi has a great deal of potential and it is a better option to gamble with when you consider it would save us 12-15million that we could spend on a midfielder.
Torres is good...but again I think some people over-rate him. Cracking movement, pace and ability on the ball, but I dont think he'd be a prolific striker...also Spanish players in the Premiership have a dodgy track record. I wouldnt be too sorry if we missed out on him, again it's 25 million quid we could use on midfield. Even if we end up with someone like Klose it is better than Defoe or spunking too much money on someone that we cant fix the midfield.
Defoe might be quite good for Liverpool though.
Spot on. Except Liverpool have Bellamy who's better than Defoe. I agree with most of what you have said, but i guess there must be a reason why Torres is supposed to be one of the best young players in the world.. i can see why after watching him at the WC. I've heard he isnt the best finisher, but to me he does seem to be someone who can be a top striker. Im not sure if he's the right choice because spending 25 million on a striker right now seems ridiculous IMO. Rather get someone decent, who finishes well for about 10 who acts as a quick fix.VanNistelrater said:
no way good player but no way
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:Defoe's better than Saha
Rossi's nothing but a kid with talent at this stage
What more pronouncements of folly are you willing to make?
Yes
How can you even try and argue otherwise re Rossi? If he's not a talented kid what exactly is he?
Mind you, you think Defoe's rubbish.....clueless
VanNistelrater said:
It's far too quick to write off RVN's ability based on 6 months, much of which he wasn't playing regularly. I've no idea what the score was re the fall outs, good news that he's off mind....you'll be a lesser side without him
Defoe's a good striker, he's very sharp in and around the box, and a very good finisher. I'd have been happy for us to get him, but the fees discussed are clearly too high....and we don't need him now we've got Bellamy
he's quite small Defoe, Rooney is no giant either
mind you we've got no-one to cross the ball so it wont matter
Re: Ruud being past-it-----bollox
he's had a row with Fergie end-of story
Bellamy is a spastic
mind you we've got no-one to cross the ball so it wont matter
Re: Ruud being past-it-----bollox
he's had a row with Fergie end-of story
Bellamy is a spastic
Davo said:
bellamy will prove a big mistake for benitez and i predict he will last two seasons at most before signing for bolton.klose or kuyt would have been better options for liverpool but i suppose beggars cant be choosers,you probably did as well as can be expected by getting bellamy.4th or 3rd place at best is not exactly a draw for top european talent now is it.
Ruuds finished mate. Pains me to say it as I think very highly of him, but he doesnt move, work or contribute as he used to. We play better Football and score as many goals without him.Davo said:
Added to that the disruption he brings, and his age (30), if we get £15 million quid for him it is a brilliant deal.
in short-term monetary terms perhapsVanNistelrater said:
but it wont be such a good deal if we cant replace him and we dont improve on last season
How much time has Ruud got left anyway? One year? Two? Hey, he said he wanted to return to Holland (or retire?) afte 2008. It's hardly a giant move. So he's going, big deal.
We obviously do need to replace him.
But if you watch him arguably over the course of the last year or so, he has slowly declined and labours to get around the pitch. He is still a terrific finisher on his day but it's ability to get himself into those situations which has declined IMO, and maybe he has gone a bit stale at United, which could account for why he doesnt work anywhere near as hard as he used to.
Time to move on, I think.
But if you watch him arguably over the course of the last year or so, he has slowly declined and labours to get around the pitch. He is still a terrific finisher on his day but it's ability to get himself into those situations which has declined IMO, and maybe he has gone a bit stale at United, which could account for why he doesnt work anywhere near as hard as he used to.
Time to move on, I think.
ruudvanrooney said:
I disagree
VanNistelrater said:
Like I said, too early to start saying he's finished. He still scored 20 odd goals for you last season, despite struggling to get into the side towards the end of the season. All players have dips in form....the off field problems wouldn't have helped
A big loss
wolfshead said:
Rooney weighs about 17 stone..... Defoe's got as much depth as Peter Crouch!
And Ruud is past his best and if he goes to Madrid you will see so yourself!!!