Its bull
It the sun for fecksake
It the sun for fecksake
Jermaine Defoe
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CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Replacing RVN with Spurs reserve is an idiocy.
And both Yorke and Hughes offered much more to the game than the Spurs Midget.
Hawkeye said:
Most likely
It's a good laugh seeing the reaction of people who are dreaming about more fashionable names though
devilish said:
It's all black and white in your weird world, isn't it?
amolbhatia100 said:
You've got to look at things in slightly more detail than that...there's no point banging on about how Defoe didn't make the England squad as some sort of stick to beat him with. Everyone with an ounce of sense knows that he should have been there.
Similarly, Jol wanted to play a small/big man partnership...which meant Mido and one other. Keane was playing exceptionally well, which meant he stayed in the team.
Defoe's better than Saha, Smith's crap, and Rossi's nothing but a kid with talent at this stage. If you ignore your midfield problems to concentrate on a striker then you've every reason to complain.....do you really think this is likely to be the case?
CnutOfAllCnuts said:Most likely
It's a good laugh seeing the reaction of people who are dreaming about more fashionable names though
Actually Its the Mirror
Now im worried
Hawkeye said:
It wasnt in the Sun.....
The first rumours of this was in the Mirror...
devilish said:
Why do you not like English players at all?
I don't think I've ever heard you say anything positive towards a potential English signing.
I understand he should have been in the squad. But there had to be a reason he wasnt first choice for spurs(forget Sven). Keane seemed to much better than him last season. Torres looked too talented in the WC to be left out like that.Davo said:
IMO Saha is better. Did you watch us in the second half of last season? Saha was quality. As i said he's better than Defoe in many ways, and most importantly i think he's better suited to play the target man upfront. Rooney is poor in the air, whereas Saha is brilliant, has a great spring. Its a much better combination than Rooney Defoe.
I cant workout why we would signing a player simlar to one we got already (Saha)
We need a player Simlar Ruud
We need a player Simlar Ruud
Just seen the story in The Mirror. Says nothing whatsoever baout us bidding or paying £15m for him.
God, there are some proper drama queens here...
God, there are some proper drama queens here...
Davo said:
Ditto Riquelme...
devilish said:
I think he's saying both had shite seasons.
fredthered said:It wasnt in the Sun.....
The first rumours of this was in the Mirror...
See above your post
Number7 said:
Devilish on Wayne Rooney: "Rooney isnt worth more than 10m, feckin sake, we are talking about an Everton’s reserve!"
I bet those who follow other leagues feel the same about Rooney, Gerrard and co.Stamford Bridge said:
jasonrh said:
amolbhatia100 said:
I've told you the reason why he wasn't first choice for Spurs. Defoe's a better striker than Keane, but if Keane was playing well - which he was - he should keep his place in the team on merit. It's daft to use things like this as headline reasons to judge a player - which the likes of you and Devilish do
Saha's not going to get any better than he is right now IMO...he's a useful striker, who's injury prone, which will always be a worry. Defoe at his best is better than Saha at his, and Defoe has potential to go up a level.....whether he actually will or not is another matter
jasonrh said:
devilish is a racist.
jasonrh said:
Hehehe, I remember that. It's another example of posters like Devilish being dramatic and using some daft argument.
Rooney doesn't play every game for Everton = He's an Everton reserve
Nevermind the fact that he was a kid, and clearly was going to make it big time
Spazzer
Saha at his best gets you lots of goals. You ignore what i said about his pairing with Rooney. He's good in the air, or atleast has a great leap. It works well with Rooney. Both have good movement. Personally dont rate Defoe as highly as some of you do. He is good, but either we get a pure goalscorer, like for like replacement for Ruud. Or you get someone who has the talent to be a top quality striker and would in the future form a great partnership with rooney. Rooney likes to drop deep, i cant see Defoe handling big tough defenders as a target man. Wouldnt work.Davo said:
I like Defoe, hes a good player. £15 million might be a bit high though.
He wouldn't score as many as Ruud but that doesn't matter, United are better when we are relying on one person to get the majority of the goals.
He wouldn't score as many as Ruud but that doesn't matter, United are better when we are relying on one person to get the majority of the goals.
amolbhatia100 said:
I've no idea how Rooney and Defoe would perform as a pair. Rooney creates space for his partners, which Defoe would thrive on. So it potentially work
You either aren't aware of this or have chosen to ignore it, in the belief that you'd use Defoe as some sort of target man...
It also depends on what our midfield will look like, and none of us know that.
Defoe for 15m is obviously paper bollocks, though.
Defoe for 15m is obviously paper bollocks, though.
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
I said this on page one.
All it states is we enquired about £15 million rated Spurs Striker.
Never does it say, we offered £15 million. That is probably Spurs or the Mirrors evaluation.
If we can get him for £8 - 10 million it wouldn't be a bad deal, however only if we are bringing quality into midfield.
That advantage(Rooney creating space) would benefit any striker he plays alongside. Saha seems to have attributes that compliment Rooney better than Defoe. 15 million on a 'could potentially work' signing who is either not much better/worse or as good as what we have, isnt worth it.Davo said:
Anyhow let see how this developes. Or doesnt(hopefully).
You won't get him for 8-10m
Spurs turned down a 12m bid from Portsmouth.
Not that he'd go there...
Spurs turned down a 12m bid from Portsmouth.
Not that he'd go there...
If its true I think it shows that we're moving back towards our old style of play, one fast stiker to lead the line (Saha or Defoe) and someone to control the play sat in behind (Rooney or Rossi). Its pretty much what we had with Cole, Yorke, Sherringham and Solsjkaer. We didn't have someone like Ruud then and we were a much better team.
Does this mean its all going to quiet down again?
I was enjoying this thread.
I was enjoying this thread.
Defoe is certainly a better option than Torres.
Shelling out £25M+ for Torres is more dafter than spending £15M on Defoe.
I thought Defoe is on his way to Anfield.
Shelling out £25M+ for Torres is more dafter than spending £15M on Defoe.
I thought Defoe is on his way to Anfield.
amolbhatia100 said:
They wouldn't benefit any striker in an equal way, and someone who thrives on running into space like Defoe would obviously reap the rewards more than someone like Saha.
So there's arguments both ways on how he'd pair up with Rooney.....you've only seen the one mind.
I remember a lot of fans getting very upset when we signed Yorke, they couldn't understand why.
vijay said:
For 15M quid?
Feck off, he's not worth that sort of cash...
Some got upset when we signed Rooney.WeasteDevil said:
vijay said:
I've seen it all now!
jasonrh said:
Did they? Why?
The more I think about it the more I think it would be a good deal. We'd have four top class forwards again, none of whom would throw a hissy fit if they were left on the bench for a couple of games.
He was just an Everton Reserve.WeasteDevil said:
Davo said:
Not when you can get strikers like Cisse for £14m
KaiserSoze666 said:
I actually think Defoe and Rooney would work very well.