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Pretty dam good
Pretty dam good
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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The speech was very good. The decision to sing "Red Flag Flying High" with their fists in the air at the end, was not.
Basically counteracted whatever mainstream statesman-like cache he could've gained, by immediately acting like a student protest group again.
Basically counteracted whatever mainstream statesman-like cache he could've gained, by immediately acting like a student protest group again.
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I think the worst part was all the young student types on stage, coupled with the likes of Andy Burnham sitting in the crowd awkwardly singing it like James Milner would sing the national anthem before a friendly against Estonia.
I was impressed by the speech and the policy content. There was a lot for Labour MPs and members to rally around and support. That is key in my view - finding common ground that people can agree and campaign on, and making that the priority.
Getting attacked quite heavily on his immigration stance this morning. Interesting as pre the brexit vote so many were defending this principle to the hilt.
Personally i wish Labour would present a strong policy on immigration but I'm not sure i agree with the logic that because people voted Brexit it means policy should instantly change on the issue. The majority of Labour members and voters dont want that. Where is the line between Labour values and winning votes here?
Personally i wish Labour would present a strong policy on immigration but I'm not sure i agree with the logic that because people voted Brexit it means policy should instantly change on the issue. The majority of Labour members and voters dont want that. Where is the line between Labour values and winning votes here?
Thanks for posting this, save me some time anyway.
Having just finished it, i think the biggest positive for Labour was Corbyn's improvement in simply delivering the speech. It was structured better than previously, and eh seemed more confident about his message.
Policy is where there still exists significant problems IMO. He listed off a lot of government expenditure, but only one means of increasing revenue (aside from widespread borrowing). If he can't show that his sums add up Labour will be open to many of the same charges of the 2015 GE, and rightly so. Corbyn had stated before that he saw no issue with unmanaged, large-scale immigration, so his position there should come as no surprise for all that it will be problematic electorally.
I also thought he should have given a greater emphasis to energy and renewables, as he seemed to be promoting the half-hearted status quo of just a few years ago. His plans for local authorities would be a concern for me, particularly in these times of lax planning laws.
In summary: there were some appealing sound bites for the home crowd, but Corbyn continues to fall short with the wider electorate.
ETA: What percentage of GDP is spent on 'research' at present btw?
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Because popping into the Iceland on Streatham high street picking out some random folks and putting them in charge of education, health and defence would somehow be better?
I think you miss the point. Want me to help you? I mean, if you're too fecking thick?
I must be
I mean the breakdown in demographic terms would probably stack up well against most ftse listed companies?
Age wise you tend to find that it is later in their career people reach the pinnacle and earn those six figure salaries... and of course that process of getting to positions of power and being paid well tends to lead to people being millionaires... I mean even corbyn is an old white man who has earned around £3m from politics
http://m.londonlovesbusiness.com/bu...eremy-corbyn/11776.article?mobilesite=enabled
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Unsurprisingly I was pretty happy with the policy suggestions.
With the Government currently able to issue gilts at negative interest rates, it is a wonderful opportunity for large scale national investment. Any Government worth their salt would take advantage to invest heavily in housing, transportation, and in particular renewable energy. Leaving aside the negative cost of the borrowing, it could provide a significant injection of energy to the flagging post-Brexit construction industry. Whether this is sellable to the electorate is another matter. They have been successfully convinced that running a country's budget is like running a household budget, and therefore debt is a bad thing (even though, ironically, household debt in the UK is incredibly high).
[And now a little ramble about immigration and the next election]
The immigration comments strike me as pretty sensible because the reality is even if we enact a hard-Brexit, and freedom of movement from the EU is totally curtailed, I will happily bet that the total number of immigrants arriving in this country does not fall substantially.
The question electorally is how important is immigration to Labour voters. Labour carried about 65% of its voters for Remain. The Conservatives only carried 42%. So what was the driving motivation of those Leave voters? Were the majority of Conservative Leave voters concerned about immigration, or was it sovereignty? Were Labour Leavers more concerned about immigration?
I don't think the Conservatives, however they enact Brexit, will be able to control immigration as much those who voted Leave for that reason desire. So we will continue to see a far-right anti-immigration party earning a significant number of votes (UKIP or Aaron Banks' rebranding of it). But it will come down to timing. The next election might well happen before these voters feel that the Conservative Brexit hasn't achieved what they hoped, in which case the Conservatives will be able to hold them all together electorally.
In the long run I suspect we will see a lot of disappointment with the reality of Brexit. The question for the left is whether we can funnel that disappointment and anti-establishment feeling into a Syriza/Podemos style movement as part of Labour, or whether it is expressed further right (I mean you can already write UKIP's lines for the next election - We need a party that truly wanted Brexit to enact Brexit. We need a party that won't betray the public on immigration controls. etc)
I don't believe in quotas. A woman chose and leads the cabinet, is that not enough for feminists?
Under representation is still under representation, even if it was picked by a woman. The source of the problem is the gender balance of Tory MPs (pretty terrible).
I'm not a huge fan of quotas but they can be a way of quickly overcoming entrenched biases which would take years to cure naturally.
Winterton has gone. Brown is back (not that one).
Will this take as long as his last reshuffle?
Will this take as long as his last reshuffle?
It shouldn't be about it being enough for feminists. Assuming you think men and women are equally capable in this field then having the gender balance this skewed is probably an indication that the standard of politician making up your government isn't as high as it could/should be. In which case you'd wonder why anyone would think it's enough.
There could be one hundred and one reasons why more men go into politics and yes some of them could be because of the patriarchy. Cabinet level is not the place to address the issue though. It should be at the grass roots. The PM should have the choice to choose whoever they think is best for the role regardless of gender.
Abbott to shadow Home Secretary.
If you listen closely you can hear the barrel being scrapedAbbott to shadow Home Secretary.
Hmm. Sacking Rosie Winterton has me concerned.
Corbyn Reshuffle Starts With Shock Sacking Of Chief Whip
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...f-whip/ar-BBx5663?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...f-whip/ar-BBx5663?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
It does suggest going hard line with the whips by appointing Brown too, who is, by all accounts, a bit of a dictatorial enforcer. He's flexing his muscle.
Although Keir Starmer as Shadow Brexit is a positive. If more moderates and critics get given Shadow Cabinet positions, that will assuage my fears of deselection being the priority or in any way encouraged.
Also, from the LabourList live blog:
18.33: Return of the Brownites? Not only has Nick Brown returned to his old stomping ground as Chief Whip, but rumours are gaining traction that Damian McBride could be coming into the leaders’ office to replace Seumas Milne, whose contract is nearly up, as Director of Communications.
Please, please let this be true. It would be good for all wings of the party.
18.33: Return of the Brownites? Not only has Nick Brown returned to his old stomping ground as Chief Whip, but rumours are gaining traction that Damian McBride could be coming into the leaders’ office to replace Seumas Milne, whose contract is nearly up, as Director of Communications.
Please, please let this be true. It would be good for all wings of the party.
Diane Abbott appointed as shadow home secretary. Wow.
All this week we've seen people accusing Amber Rudd of xenophobia and racism, and now Labour select a racially divisive figure as her opposite number.
All this week we've seen people accusing Amber Rudd of xenophobia and racism, and now Labour select a racially divisive figure as her opposite number.
Yeah. Both parties are taking the piss.
'An open question': Tony Blair refuses to rule out return to British politics
Former PM says political centre ground must ‘rise to the challenge’ of hard Brexit conservatism and an ultra-left Labour party
Could this be why Corbyn is collecting Brown-ites? I'd love it if it's evidence of pre-meditated political maneuvering on Corbyn's part (whether targeted at Balir or just to generally divide the intra-party opposition), would show that he is growing up fast.
Former PM says political centre ground must ‘rise to the challenge’ of hard Brexit conservatism and an ultra-left Labour party
Could this be why Corbyn is collecting Brown-ites? I'd love it if it's evidence of pre-meditated political maneuvering on Corbyn's part (whether targeted at Balir or just to generally divide the intra-party opposition), would show that he is growing up fast.
Is Blair actually that deluded? 90% of the country see him as a war criminal and absolute scum of the earth.
And Clive Lewis loses defence? Really? Replaced by Nia Griffith who opposes Trident? Really?
Are we on ultra-left now?
This is as bold as Rooney claiming he wouldnt rule out a move to Barcelona. Still the sole purpose of the Lib Dems seems to be to moan about Labour being lefty and ineffective so perhaps he could join them.
unity...
party split becoming more inevitable
Are we on ultra-left now?
This is as bold as Rooney claiming he wouldnt rule out a move to Barcelona. Still the sole purpose of the Lib Dems seems to be to moan about Labour being lefty and ineffective so perhaps he could join them.
Couldn't have put it betterNot going to happen now. I suspect there are a fair few MPs on the right of the party that want an election soon, and want to lose it, so they can be rid of Corbyn. But unless they are complete idiots they will know the Tories are far more fragile than current polling suggests and that unless we get rid of FPtP a split is electoral suicide and homicide (kills both resulting parties).
I'm also not sure this was about Trident. Those subs have sailed so to speak. Hopefully Business, Energy, Industry and Climate Change will be much more prominent than Defence in the coming years and so putting a figure like Lewis on that brief will allow him to build his profile as a future leader.
Yeah im surprised by the Lewis move but i don't believe they'll be a change on Trident so it could turn out to be shrewd.
He's one of the more media savy members of the shadow cabinet so get him in front of cameras as much as possible.
Was really hoping Abbot would be sacrificed for the sake of logic and unity but personal loyalities have guided that one it seems.
He's one of the more media savy members of the shadow cabinet so get him in front of cameras as much as possible.
Was really hoping Abbot would be sacrificed for the sake of logic and unity but personal loyalities have guided that one it seems.
Shami Chakrabarti as shadow AG?
Her recent role as head of the anti-Semitism inquiry, and the ensuing peerage controversy, can't but give such an appointment a bit of a whiff.
Her recent role as head of the anti-Semitism inquiry, and the ensuing peerage controversy, can't but give such an appointment a bit of a whiff.
Unfortunately you have his merry band of loyalists that can be wheeled out, to claim that he's suffered enough, as soon as the topic of Iraq comes up.
The inquiry was a pretty accurate portrayal with some fair suggestions. It has unsurprisingly been leapt upon in right-wing quarters as a whitewash. I admit that the peerage and AG promotion doesn't help counter such suggestions but objectively she is a great appointment as shadow AG
And your lot actually have Liam Fox in charge of trade deals
BrilliantAre we on ultra-left now?
This is as bold as Rooney claiming he wouldnt rule out a move to Barcelona. Still the sole purpose of the Lib Dems seems to be to moan about Labour being lefty and ineffective so perhaps he could join them.
Hey, i appreciated the influence of Liberty during her tenure, however these string of appointments are very 'old politics' indeed.
Fox would be better back at the MoD, but he is at least a committed Eurosceptic (unlike his more recent convert at the FCO
).Hey, i appreciated the influence of Liberty during her tenure, however these string of appointments are very 'old politics' indeed.
Fox would be better back at the MoD, but he is at least a committed Eurosceptic (unlike his more recent convert at the FCO
It doesn't look great, I'm happy to admit that. I just think it's actually a good appointment.
I don't think there's any senior cabinet position best for Fox given his past, but the Werritty access/lobbyist funding seems precisely the sort of behaviour that a trade minister should not have a history of. May's first cabinet was fairly bizarre though (pissing off Cameroons and Osbornites - is there a more catchy noun for that which I've forgotten?)
It's been almost 2 months since the Guardian first published the story that led to "traingate". Today they admit that they distorted the story they were given - and have corrected it. Had they told the truth in the first place, "traingate" may not have been a thing. Still, a lot of papers were sold.