some people just automatically want to rope at the idea of signing an English player
I don't get it either, he looks like a great prospect to me
Jarrad Branthwaite
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some people just automatically want to rope at the idea of signing an English player
I don't get it either, he looks like a great prospect to me
There is one Arsenal fan, he is so upset with our offer. Hah
I wouldnt be surprised if we're trying to put pressure on Sporting to lower the fee for Inacio whilst bidding for Branthwaite. Basically take the one we can agree a reasonable fee for.
Would show we have alternative targets and won't be bullied by Everton to pay silly money
35 million? Cold blooded!
trying to turn the players head and also Everton have to sell. This is Ashworth part 2 but it won’t work fast enough for the average punter. It sets a fairly solid precedent though. In both cases we will get the person cheaper than paper talk. It might take a year but it’ll happen sooner or later. It’s not slick but it will work. We can grind it out once we know they want us
trying to turn the players head and also Everton have to sell. This is Ashworth part 2 but it won’t work fast enough for the average punter. It sets a fairly solid precedent though. In both cases we will get the person cheaper than paper talk. It might take a year but it’ll happen sooner or later. It’s not slick but it will work. We can grind it out once we know they want us
Actually Maguire is pretty decent defending on the front foot when close to an attacker. His issue is getting caught in open space and general indecision/mistakes with the ball.
Your description fits Lindelof, who is a back peddling merchant.
Basically the foreigners are the level we should be aiming for, the Englishmen should be the backups if we can't get the foreigners.
I love our Willy but he isn’t close to being as good as Branthwaite. Branthwaite would easily be our second best defender today, while Willy is closer to being our 4-5th
Wow we really sped past the considering, monitoring, looking at, and preparing a bid phases. Nice to see.
I like that we’re trying not to pay over the odds as well and he’s a good player from what I’ve seen and the right profile.
I like that we’re trying not to pay over the odds as well and he’s a good player from what I’ve seen and the right profile.
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Is this confirmed though? And how much they need? If it is around 40m, they need to sell a bigger name not just some random player. Looks like we have time on our side for once
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Don’t see this being completed for less than £50m rising to £60m including add ons. All depends on Onana and whether or not he’s sold then Everton will be less inclined to sell him. Coupled with the new owners arriving, new stadium it could be more appealing to stick around a season or two and see how they fair in the future.
Hoping the De Ligt links are just part of pressuring Everton here - he’d be a big mistake
New owners coming in - never before the end of June…..think they’ve just offered exclusivity to one buyer but that will take time.
Id imagine that Everton are very coy over what they need by end of June as they will try and get as much as they can.
Branthwaite is a much bigger PSR deal for them than Onana…..
Also - Onana away at Euros, Branthwaite at home and available.
We will really see if there is any difference in the way Ineos handle this situation. Its not like we didn’t expect them to reject our initial offers.
Id imagine that Everton are very coy over what they need by end of June as they will try and get as much as they can.
Branthwaite is a much bigger PSR deal for them than Onana…..
Also - Onana away at Euros, Branthwaite at home and available.
We will really see if there is any difference in the way Ineos handle this situation. Its not like we didn’t expect them to reject our initial offers.
Agreed - we don’t need or more ex Ajax players - tried that experiment and we know it doesn’t work.
Suspect this won’t get done and we will look elsewhere. Which is fine! INEOS will learn quickly how overpriced young English players are and hopefully put more effort into finding gems before they end up at other premier league clubs.
It’s important that we have a strong English/British core. It’s not an issue to overpay, it’s an issue when you don’t have the funds to do it.
If the squad was set up to purchase a Declan Rice for one summer. It’s important we do it.
I still think we will try our hardest to get Branthwaite done. He’ll be a key player for the future team.
But you could easily say its like many of our transfer sagas during the days of Woodward start with a low bid that won't be accepted and work your way up to something way over the odds by the end of the window. Hopefully we will walk away quickly if we can't get it done for a reasonable fee
I would say that all clubs would know exactly what other clubs owe in terms of PSR rules. They will have someone employed to delve into these things as it provides valuable information to the club for buying players on the cheap.
Partly agree with a lot of what you are saying. I like Braithwaite and find it bizarre Southgate didnt give him chances with Maguires inactivity....and feelwillcome to haunt him in the Euros.
Van Nistelrooy as a example andany other coaches worked with him seem to rave about him and Everton fans I know go to games have said he is the only dead certthey have seen since Rooney to reach top, personally havent seen that myself but definately seems under rated.
I disagree he is currently a far better defender than others in Europe....Yes Yoro is raw, Diomande isnt the finished produt yet, neither is Braithwaite and I do think some others have higher ceilings.
The biggest thing for me though....injury problemsor not we have afantastic lcb in Martinez, fantastic coverin Shaw, Malacia and Amass coming through as lb options....Braithwaite is lcb.....what do we haveonthe right....possibly only Kambwalla by the endof the window and avastlyover rated forbeing decent Dalot at rb.
That is why personally I prefer likesof Diomande....lcb, weshouldhave signed Lukeba for £30m last summer
He is two footed, can play either side.
Your space button broken?
Okey - sounds fair. I only saw him against us this season. We won 2-0 and 3-0 and he was rather mediocre.
Guess that isn’t enough to make an assessment
And the game where Chelsea smashed them and he got bullied of Jackson.Okey - sounds fair. I only saw him against us this season. We won 2-0 and 3-0 and he was rather mediocre.
Guess that isn’t enough to make an assessment
Everton need to sell though by the June 30th deadline . Just like Villa selling Luiz
Great stuff, you missed out the part about allegedly having to sell, which means it’s a constrained market and all normal bets regarding his price and value are off (if selling need is correct).
How many times do you see things sold cheap because the owner has a need for money. If the press are correct it is likely the same here, especially if there is only one bidder and nobody is interested in any of your other players.
The last thing we want is competition for places. Martinez has looked decent in the 25% of games he's been available for in the last two seasons, even if he watched seven go in at Anfield, six at Maine Road and four at Brentford. To be fair to him, his center back partner had only won five Champions League titles, so he never really stood a chance. He's totally untouchable and United should only look at players who strongly favour their right foot, because it's a fundamental belief of a manager who delivered our worst-ever Premier League finish and who absolutely isn't skating on ice.
They’ll give this one until the end of the month - creeping the bid up a couple of times before a final take it or leave of around £50m+ £8m.
Then move on to other targets already highlighted by July if no progress.
Then move on to other targets already highlighted by July if no progress.
Also got ragdolled by Haaland for his goal against them at the Etihad. If anybody pays above £50m for this guy they are getting mugged.Okey - sounds fair. I only saw him against us this season. We won 2-0 and 3-0 and he was rather mediocre.
Guess that isn’t enough to make an assessment
why does that matter?
An opening bid of £35m is very reasonable. If Everton really want to do business then I feel confident that we can strike a deal around £50m.
Would you be upset if we switched the word ‘Englishmen’ for ‘Nigerians’.
It should be based on their quality, not nationality.
It's more than reasonable with 8m more in add-ons. It should not go anywhere beyond 50, and that too because of the English tax. 40m guaranteed plus 5m-8m in add-ons is where I expect it to close. Otherwise we should move to other targets.
Its just a lazy comparison because he's big and English.
Im hoping Everton really put their foot down over their 70m as I really think theres better players out there, even if we were to get him for 50m
We did the same with Mount last season and started bidding low in the hopes of getting a good deal and still ended up overpaying on fees and wages.
It’s going to take a lot longer for us for selling clubs to see us differently. We will need to show we are prepared to leave negotiations and target other players the way City do. The difference is City can afford to do that because they have a great squad.
It’s going to take a lot longer for us for selling clubs to see us differently. We will need to show we are prepared to leave negotiations and target other players the way City do. The difference is City can afford to do that because they have a great squad.
Wow. That’s.. wrong.
He’s worth 50-55m. I personally would do 40m + add-ons
1950s called and wanted their forum post back!
40m + add-ons I think would be a very good deal especially considering what he’s valued at by Everton, I just dont think it’s very likely
Or you know… because they are the much better football players.