Collyer isn't good enough.
Jarrad Branthwaite
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Hes good enough as a 3rd choice. We need another CM who can do what Mainoo does hence Fofana for me
I think he is as a 3rd choice 6. In fact he might just push Casemiro.
Best discussed in another thread - I don't want to derail this one!
Not really. We went out and got MdL, Yoro, and Mazraoui for ~£90m instead of him for ~£70m
Mmm but after official bids go in, you’d normally get a story saying the club have moved on or something. Unless I missed it, we never got it
Think we have just moved it until next summer
I don’t think PSR is tight at all. I think it was until June 30th but isn’t anymore. Not even a little. On the other hand, I think cash is tight to some degree (although we have plenty of credit available), but most likely is that our own internal limits on wage and transfer expenditure to revenue ratios are getting tight, and the reality of existing transfer debt and amortised transfer fees schedules are being considered.
I think Ineos isn’t just running the club with a mind to make better recruitment decisions and bring more success on the field, but also to make it a more sustainably profitable company by curbing the preposterously reckless spending (on mostly shite) over the last decade. We have a reputation for being a soft touch and over paying, and in one window Ineos has completely changed the narrative over not only the type of budget we are working with, but also the sort of fees we are unwilling to pay, as well as being prepared to walk away from overpriced deals. It’s quite brilliant, and I think driven more by our own internal controls and strategic thinking, than it is by any real cash or PSR concerns.
All good
If we can shift Lindelof and Maguire then yes sign him. Sounds like Lindelof is gone and rumours Maguire may consider his position
Its not a priority though and midfield signings are essential.
Also none of Lindelof or Maguire can play the way we want.
Regarding having 4 CBs both title favourites City and Arsenal do
Sound point, yeah. Tbf, I’m not fully up to date with PSR and its workings. Only on what I’ve read on here and the entire narrative of having around a £100m budget going into the summer and thus needing to sell to buy, if we wanted to spend more. So I’ve based it mostly on that assumption.
You’re spot on and I’ve loved what Ineos are doing. After years and years of us being a joke with no real transfer strategy and paying over the odds for big name players who either didn’t want to be here or on the decline, it’s been a breathe of fresh air recently.
I think that was our plan anyway. Keep him one more season, and hoping he plays well again so there is a bidding war.
We already have 3 top CBs, getting 4 when we have other holes is moronic.
Get a young versatile CB/LB option next season on the cheap.
Get a young versatile CB/LB option next season on the cheap.
He would have fitted right in at United, he's currently injured.
If we keep Maguire we have four good options. Don’t thinl many teams have better depth than that, and with Martinez and De Ligt/Yoro, our starters are potentially top quality.
Don't think he's needed anymore (and was never a fan): we got two defenders for less than he would have cost
Yes, it seems Everton really need him to stay this season, and maybe if he continues on upward trajectory, there could be competition for his signature next summer.
Let him stay 1 more season. Will be easier to buy from the Championship. And they will have spent a year paying him increased wages, unless a £60m player doesn't deserve a pay raise?
He is in a squad role 15-20 minutes to see games out while he develops.
Left out of the squad today due to 'injury'.
Straight swap for Sancho
Deadline day overpay here we come. This club never changes.
What on earth are you talking about?
He was confirmed injured days ago. He'll be back in the squad next week in all likelihood.
He was genuinely injured. Not "injured."
I'd look to cash in before the end of the window. Same with DCL who looked disinterested and isn't going to risk injury after christmas for them. They desperately need reinforcements. They probably need to have enough money stashed away to sack Dyche that could easily get toxic pretty fast
Newcastle are offering decent money for Guehi and need a cb a lot more after today. I'd straight up offer him to them and drop the silly opening price.
Newcastle are offering decent money for Guehi and need a cb a lot more after today. I'd straight up offer him to them and drop the silly opening price.
No chance of this happening this season. Focus on Ugarte!
People still thinking we will be in for him are crazy, as of today we have Licha, De Ligt, Yoro as starters also have a solid back up in Maguire plus we have Evans and Lindelof. Thats 6 CBs, for 2 positions. As soon as we signed De Ligt this ship has sailed. Luckily for us as I dont think he's worth was Everton is asking for.
We dont have infinite funds and have way more pressing needs in midfield and LB before thinking about CB again.
We dont have infinite funds and have way more pressing needs in midfield and LB before thinking about CB again.
oh no
80 million and he's theirs.
Can imagine Everton fans will be delighted that their bitter local rivals rate one of their players so highly. No way Liverpool try to get him on the cheap, no sir.
So Everton sell to Pool, I bet they want that United deal now after all
There is no denying it...we do have history.
If he goes to Liverpool, will this be right up there with Sol Campbell going from Spurs to Arsenal?
We dont need a fourth choice CB for 70M.
It would be really funny to see the meltdown from Everton fans when he moves to Liverpool though
It would be really funny to see the meltdown from Everton fans when he moves to Liverpool though
Why do you keep banging this drum? Genuinely don't understand your obsession with this transfer not only happening, but the certainty we're going to overpay.
This isn't happening in this window, go get angry at the club over something else.
Campbell moved on a free with Spurs having no say. I'm not sure if that would make it better or worse.
In any case it surely can't happen right? Everton wouldn't budge on their valuation for us and Branthwaite didn't kick up a fuss. They'll have a special valuation for Liverpool (something like 140 million in the currency of feck off) and I wouldn't expect a fuss to be made there either.
Would they even sell to the dippers for less than 75m?
In a squad that needs upgrades in a few areas, we've bought 2 very good CBs and one of the guys they've been bought to replace in the starting lineup has had a monster of a performance last game round and has played relatively well over the course of last season. The way I see it, even in the very unlikely scenario that we're still interested in getting this guy, we won't be overpaying.
We have four quality CBs to cover 2 positions. It would be crazy to add another one for 70m. That too an overpriced one.