For a team that conceded 58 PL goals last season, personally I'd say sorting out the defence and not conceded so many goals is much more important than this new fad of having a left and right footed CB because of passing angles.
Jarrad Branthwaite
- Thread starter Samid
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
A fad that's been around for decades.... I would have thought after seeing us last season struggle to pass out when Martinez was out as well as seeing the struggles England had not having a left footed CB exacerbated by a right footed LB that maybe just maybe there is something in having a left footed LCB at the back who can open up more passing lanes. Either way its not an either or. Its not like Branthwaite is a worse defender than De Ligt, so why not solve both issues at the same time through buying the 1 defender.
He is absolutely a worse defender than de Ligt.
I get it's important in modern football to be able to pass out from the back and have as many passing angles open to you. However defences win you championships, that's never changed. If the opposition can't score they can't win.
Personally I also think it's important we have serial winners and leaders like de ligt at the club. Guys who know what the benchmark is to win trophies and bring mental strength into the dressing room, training ground and pitch.
It's not always about technical ability, sometimes its about how badly you want to win and how much desire and determination you have. The more players we get in like that i.e. de ligt / Ugarte etc the better off we will be.
If our main criteria for Branthwaite is that he's young, english and amipedal then that's just daft. I said it before, I don't see what his appeal is, just looks a bog standard CB to me. If he was Bulgarian not English, would we be as interested?
Give us Branthwaite and we will show him what a proper injury looks like within a fortnite
Last edited:
It is important, however, we brought in the likes of Casemiro, Varane and Ronaldo which didn't change anything. Liverpool brought in Robertson, Salah and Van Dijk, hardly bastions at the time of serial winners and leaders.
The point being you can win a title with serial winners and you can build players into becoming serial winners, it doesn't have to be one or the other and a lot of times can be a mix of both.
When you look at the fact we have Yoro who looks like he is ready to be the starting RCB and Martinez who is the starting LCB, where is the weakness? Our depth at RCB with Maguire, Lindelof and Evans or our depth at LCB? You have the opportunity to bring in a young highly touted and talented premier league proven player who also ticks the boxes in terms of the style of play needed e.g. fast, aggressive and good on the ball, who can challenge both Yoro and Martinez at LCB or RCB or a De Ligt who whilst a good defender, doesn't have the same athletic abilities and at LCB would be no different to playing Maguire there. Now, would I be upset if we settled on De Ligt? of course not, however Branthwaite provides so much more upside in relation to the way we want to play at LCB, especially as a third choice CB. Now if the idea is that De Ligt would be first choice at RCB over Yoro then fine, however we will still be in the same position as last season where if Martinez gets injured we will struggle to progress play on his side which is based on the way EtH wants the team to play. It just makes so much more sense to go for Branthwaite.
Everton fans on X are so strange. They want to keep Branthwaite but also at the same time they want us to buy Branthwaite rather than buying Yoro. Never witness something like this before.
Maybe it’s more just shite banter along the lines “haha you couldn’t get JB & instead went for an injury prone Yoro as second choice”
Probably annoyed because they know United of recent years would be paying the lot, probably more
I think they know he’ll end up at United either in August or next summer and it’ll be for less than they ideally want
It's like a shitty Brazzers man of vigour and esteem scene where the "Husband" gets off watching his wife get fecked.
It's the weirdest kink in football Being furious your best player wasn't getting sold.
He is still out after having a minor operation on an injury
So desperate to join us he thinks being all "look at me I'm injury prone" will get us bidding again. Pathetic.
Serves the Everton fans who were mocking Yoro's injury right, the weird bastards.
How about a loan with an option to buy for £70 mill? In exchange they get Lindelof or Maguire on a similar deal. In a low block, those two are probably even better than Branthwaite.
If they go bust by november we re-negotiate the deal gainst paying up in january.
If they go bust by november we re-negotiate the deal gainst paying up in january.
Branthwaite already being injured is a sign of him already trying to fit into the United way.
Love to see it
Edit: I see others already made the joke
Newcastle we could rather spend 60m on guehi then on him. Just saying
I'd rather have Branthwaite
It will be interesting to see how much Guehi goes for. The tweet and article didn't align. Tweet said 60m deal and article stated fee was in excess of 60m.
Who knows what the thinking is. They have their share of big, strong bastards in Burn, Botman and co. Maybe they want a different profile with Guehi.
Romano said Palace want 65m
...which will strengthen Everton's stance about min. 65m for Branthwaite
It would only weaken Everton's hand. Guehi was picked ahead of Branthwaite for England and is being valued by Palace below Everton's Branthwaite valuation.
It's not really that significant though when Everton are saying they don't want to sell. £70m is above the players' actual worth because they don't want to sell.
As long is the player doesn't kick up a fuss it means little.
I don't think clubs care about who got picked ahead of who for England.
United and Everton probably both rate Branthwaite higher than Guéhi, and with the latter now moving for £65m, it's even less likely IMO that Everton lower their demands for the former. Not that it was likely in the first place anyways, though.
0 chance we’re in for him this summer.
We're not bringing in another CB before we bring in a midfielder surely?
I think if we offload McT and Sancho (Plus Lindelof/Mejbri and other 'fodder') then we can get Ugarte and Branthwaite
No thanks, not needed anymore and highly unlikely we can justify shelling out £50m+ on another defender
Down the pan more like, we have deligt and Yoro. Thats enough for now.
Can’t see it happening, unless we are permanently moving to a back 3.
No thanks.
Nah this is dead. We need to prioritize midfield & attack now. Unless both Maguire & Lindelof leave I can't see us spending 50 + m on him
I think it’s fairly obvious in an ideal world we would want Ugarte, Branthwaite and another striker this summer - that’s what has been reported all summer - it all depends on who we can shift.
Makes sense to sign him this summer then fully focus on the midfield next summer
I don't see how he fits unless we really are planning to use Martinez as an inverted left-back which would be a mistake in my opinion.
I’d want him even at 60m but would be overkill for this summer. Let’s get him next summer.
I can’t understand why people want this? We aren’t chelsea do we need to have 4 centre backs competing for two positions when we cannot shift Maguire and Lindelof and we already have Evan’s. Shaw can also step in.
Because we have a finite budget and should be prioritising some central midfielders. We’ve signed two CBs already.
No it doesn’t, we need midfielders or we’ll have another terrible season like last year, ten Hag will be sacked and we’re back to square one.
I'd prefer a left back who can simply stay fit.