Januzaj | Confirmed: On Loan at Dortmund

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At 18 he was starting 50% of your games, played 27 in all. At 19, he wasn't trusted enough. At 20 he's loaned out. You see where I'm going with this?

He's a top talent who should've been playing at your club, not loaned out for inexplicable reasons.

He hasn't kicked on as hoped. Hence we can't continue to give him the games he needs. Hence the loan is explicable.

I just hope he forces himself into Dortmund's best XI.
 
I'm happy he's gone to Dortmund, he can learn a lot there.

Really happy there is no option to buy, I want this guy back, he's going to be class.
 
Isn't that bloke quite "ITK" about all things Belgian?

Quite a good loan, this, for Januzaj. Hope we don't miss him. Wonder if we can bring him back in January if we need to?


He's the only player we've got who can actually dribble past players. Que Memphis... Shame really I hate seeing kids move on.
 
I can see us selling him for £35mill next summer if he has a good season and we do too. Massive sell on clause etc. I expect the most we would commit to for now is a first option clause.

Hope to see Januzaj back here next season, but with the club not being able to carry passengers right now this is the right move for him. Hopefully would help him "sow his oates" elsewhere for a while so it gets it out of his system playing in the Bundesliga at least.
Watch out @Penna
 
Isn't that bloke quite "ITK" about all things Belgian?

Quite a good loan, this, for Januzaj. Hope we don't miss him. Wonder if we can bring him back in January if we need to?
No, he has nothing to do with Belgium. He lives in the States and runs a radio show that has guests on it and he has had big names from inside the club on it before. He is somewhat ITK of United but he is complete twat so I wouldn't trust his word on anything opinion based. All the youth coaches have always praised Adnan for his attitude and he just showed he was committed by bringing a trainer on his holidays. He also just started four games in a row.
 
How the hell is he going to get playing time at Dortmund, they seem to have quite good attacking players, no ?
 
Really exited for him to go there. Germany is comparable to the EPL in terms of tempo and physicality which will be good for him. Also Dortmund are proven at developing young talent. He should hopefully come back a more complete player.
 
I think we are freaking out because LVG and Fergie both have totally different ideas regarding developing young talents. Hopefully this move will help Januzaj.
 
No, he has nothing to do with Belgium. He lives in the States and runs a radio show that has guests on it and he has had big names from inside the club on it before. He is somewhat ITK of United but he is complete twat so I wouldn't trust his word on anything opinion based. All the youth coaches have always praised Adnan for his attitude and he just showed he was committed by bringing a trainer on his holidays. He also just started four games in a row.

Ah. Well there you go. The Belgian looking name confused me.
 
he can come back next season once the air is clear and we have a new manager and the new creative enviroment, he would stagnate in this system we play than he would develop, hopefully he will play 25+ games there..
 
Isn't that bloke quite "ITK" about all things Belgian?

Quite a good loan, this, for Januzaj. Hope we don't miss him. Wonder if we can bring him back in January if we need to?

He's ITK about most things United.
 
German Sky guy just said on TV that accoding to his sources Dortmund's leadership is very confident that they will keep Januzaj if they want to.
 


This sums up my thoughts pretty much. I just can't make any sense of it.
 
We would have sold him, like Welbeck
No two situations are exactly the same. Dortmund may not be able to sign him immediately, for example. But generally, weird loans like this, they don't end up with the player returning.
German Sky guy just said on TV that accoding to his sources Dortmund's leadership is very confident that they will keep Januzaj if they want to.
I don't think he'll be back, to be honest. I may be wrong totally, but Dortmund don't seem the type of club to babysit a player for a season. They'll be loaning him because they plan to keep him.
 
Considered first choice for every game this season and probably our best youth prospect but sent out on loan.

Makes no sense, even with some signings coming in.
 
Hopefully he gets his confidence back playing with like-minded players. He's a crafty footballer. Not quick enough to be the Bale-type winger we tried to make him seemingly. He plays well in the pockets of space and roaming around the field. His end product needs improving but with belief in his style of play and freedom to express himself that should come.
 
Can´t wait for the EL games between Dortmund and United.:nervous:
 


This sums up my thoughts pretty much. I just can't make any sense of it.


has he played well? Maybe another forward player will come in? Where will he play though, he hasnt played much last year, another season like that and it would be pretty bad for him.
 


This answer from Adnan sums up what a mess we are right now, it just seems like no one has a clue wtf is going on and that includes lvg
 
If that's true, he's not coming back. You just don't loan to teams like Dortmund. It makes no sense, unless the plan is a permanent move... And maybe a Dortmund player coming to United.
That's what people said about Courtois when he was loving the life at Atletico. If he does well at Dortmund, he will be back at United.

But I do agree with others that I am not sure about this move. We have to be a club that can bring up and integrate talented young players.
 
fecked up transfer business from us. LVG keeps talking about philosophy and processes, but no one can deny the fact that he is slowly sucking the soul out of the club. We value possession more than offense. We value clean sheets more than goals. We squeeze the creativity and flair out of our most flamboyant players, and sell everyone who refuses to fall in line with the 'philosophy'. In a year's time, we have sold Nani, ADM, RVP, Welbeck, Rafael and now forced Januzaj out. All of them players who will take the risk to try and get something out of nothing. All of them players you'd like to see create and improvise. But now, Wayne fecking Rooney, who has had only two 20+ goals seasons in his 11 years at this club, who hasn't scored an away goal since March '14, who is paid 300k/week, made captain, and asked for culinary advice after putting in shameful 5/10 performances week in and week out, is chosen over much better, exciting, productive players. We can't score for love nor money, and the manager seems absolutely satisfied with the kind of performances we are putting in.

When we went down 2-1 at Swansea, I knew it was over. We are no longer a team who have the grit, skill or aura to come back. We no longer terrify teams on the offense. I miss that. Watching us pick 3 points doesn't give me one tenth of the joy I got when we came back from three down to pick one point against Chelsea. Watching us rotate the ball around and hunt for a chance to score around the opposition box doesn't give me the thrill I used to get when we'd just try and beat the markers and dribble past them, watching Depay pass it back from a position where he can take a man on is less exciting than watching Januzaj under Moyes weave his magic and somehow look like he could pull off a stunner any moment. I miss the days when Nani would flummox his man, RvP would carress it into a corner, when Rafael would go marauding down the right flank and take a shot. All of them had their risks, and we'd pay for their risks time and again, but it was fecking beautiful and I loved it.

I miss attractive, attacking football. And I miss the passion, thrill and unpredictability of watching Manchester United attack. feck this possession and results based football. feck LVG's tactics and feck those passing stats.

Anyway, good luck to Januzaj, he is at a club where they still demand and deliver attacking football even when they are down and in the relegation zone. He will enjoy his natural football there, and hopefully learn that he prefers that over the fat pay and boring business carried on at Old Trafford a season later. For his sake, I hope he doesn't come back if LVG is still around. We'll spend some more money and buy someone else anyway.

Good luck, Adnan. You were a joy to watch under Moyes.
 


This sums up my thoughts pretty much. I just can't make any sense of it.


I'm guessing he was given games purely to see if he's ready or if he needs to go out on loan. Turns out its the loan... A season too late
 
Really don't get this transfer, like others have said he won't get into their 1st team, really looks like we are offloading him, just dortmund want a year to look at him first. Disssapointed really really think he has the potential to be a very good player for us.
 
I'm guessing he was given games purely to see if he's ready or if he needs to go out on loan. Turns out its the loan... A season too late
The fact he generally played quite badly in those games will help make sense of it.
has he played well? Maybe another forward player will come in? Where will he play though, he hasnt played much last year, another season like that and it would be pretty bad for him.

So a few average performances from a 21 year old and boom, out the door you go.

How exactly is Rooney still here then? How did Falcao stay in the team for so long last year? Same with RVP?

Sorry, its just ridiculous.



This answer from Adnan sums up what a mess we are right now, it just seems like no one has a clue wtf is going on and that includes lvg


Jesus :lol:
 
Let's not forget many people wanted him sold only a few months ago. The potential was fading and fading until he scored again.
 
So a few average performances from a 21 year old and boom, out the door you go.

How exactly is Rooney still here then? How did Falcao stay in the team for so long last year? Same with RVP?

Sorry, its just ridiculous.



Jesus :lol:

You're really comparing established senior pros with a youngster still learning the ropes?

Jesus indeed.
 


This answer from Adnan sums up what a mess we are right now, it just seems like no one has a clue wtf is going on and that includes lvg


there goes the 'we've been planning this for months' BS
 
Let's not forget many people wanted him sold only a few months ago. The potential was fading and fading until he scored again.
who wanted him sold? quotes please or you are just making it up
 
You're really comparing established senior pros with a youngster still learning the ropes?

Jesus indeed.

Youngsters should be given more time to establish themselves, not less. Certainly not 4 games to decide whether he stays at the club or not.

Also, if those 4 games were just a 'test' (for want of a better phrase), isn't that a particularity stupid risk to take, considering how important it was to get a good start?
 


This sums up my thoughts pretty much. I just can't make any sense of it.


My theory:

Januzaj has been acting up a bit in regards to how much he gets played. Wants to be playing games now and Van Gaal doesn't like the attitude of players who moan when they don't play. Prefers players who knuckle down and let their hard work do the talking. Probably promised Januzaj some game time to prove himself and felt he didn't do enough which is why he was dropped or "injured".

Januzaj has since pushed for a move away and got his wish. Would explain the late move for Martial and why he's seemingly leaving us despite being short. Club don't want players with bad attitudes here or at least players who don't want to be here or won't try their hardest.


Bit like the Welbeck scenario.
 
Youngsters should be given more time to establish themselves, not less. Certainly not 4 games to decide whether he stays at the club or not.

Also, if those 4 games were just a 'test' (for want of a better phrase), isn't that a particularity stupid risk to take, considering how important it was to get a good start?

I don't think it was a 'test' but I think it's possible if he'd played really well we wouldn't have let him go on loan. It's also possible he was going on loan regardless. There's so much hysteria about all things United now, everyone is assuming the worst.
 
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