Jamie Vardy | Signs new contract

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Vardy is a million times better than Giroud. For a start he can actually run.
He is underrated on here imo and will do well for Arsenal. Without the ball they have been very average recently and with Vardy and Sanchez pressuring teams from the top I think it would work out pretty well. Arsenal do actually create chances its just they have nobody to stick it in the onion bag and Vardy is clinical. £20m is decent business as well.

Could well trigger an exodus from Leicester though. Are we in the hunt for Mahrez? Would be a great fit for the right wing for us.

Rashford/Zlatan
Martial Rooney Mahrez

That is a great front four, even greater if we can somehow dispense with Rooney.
 
what's going on with all this Vardy yet to decide business.

Strange. As him and his agent have clearly arranged the finer details, which they wouldn't bother with if he just didn't want to go.
 
Maybe he is dragging it out to make Leicester fans think he cares about them.
 
Sandikan said:
what's going on with all this Vardy yet to decide business.

Strange. As him and his agent have clearly arranged the finer details, which they wouldn't bother with if he just didn't want to go.
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I rather hope it's so it gives LCFC time to up his pay to match Arsenal's proposition. I assume it's possible he'll stay if they match, given he's looking for a big payday. Now is the time for him to cash in, as it's doubtful he'll be as wanted next year. Maybe get a big bump from LCFC plus added years to sweeten the pot? It'd be a shame to see LCFC dismantled so quickly after a wondrous year. I don't expect them to finish in the Euro spots next season, but at least give the team & fans a good go in the CL. With Vardy, Mahrez, & Kante gone, LCFC would be lucky to parachute into the EL. If they had at least 2 of the 3, I can see them sneaking into the elimination rounds with a decent group draw.

Do you think he might sound out Mahrez & Kante to see their chances of staying?
 
Arsenal is getting a 2-for-1 bargain here once that look-a-like fool travels to London with him. The lads over at ArsenalFan TV must be stoked.
 
The Purley King said:
Vardy is a million times better than Giroud. For a start he can actually run.
He is underrated on here imo and will do well for Arsenal. Without the ball they have been very average recently and with Vardy and Sanchez pressuring teams from the top I think it would work out pretty well. Arsenal do actually create chances its just they have nobody to stick it in the onion bag and Vardy is clinical. £20m is decent business as well.

Could well trigger an exodus from Leicester though. Are we in the hunt for Mahrez? Would be a great fit for the right wing for us.

Rashford/Zlatan
Martial Rooney Mahrez

That is a great front four, even greater if we can somehow dispense with Rooney.
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It's hard to rate a 29 year old player accurately who's had one stand out season in the premier league, a nothing season the year before and not long ago was playing for Fleetwood a few years ago. It could go either way for him next year.
 
I'm sure it's been mentioned here already but Vardy is the wrong type of player for Arsenal, whose opponents will park the bus 90% of the time. Vardy does his best work at full speed on the counter, not inside tight spaces against a parked bus.
 
Spack said:
I'm sure it's been mentioned here already but Vardy is the wrong type of player for Arsenal, whose opponents will park the bus 90% of the time. Vardy does his best work at full speed on the counter, not inside tight spaces against a parked bus.
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Another who clearly doesn't watch Arsenal very much.

What is it with you armchair experts?
 
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cyberman said:
If you are not involved in the game then what else can you be?
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Wrong and uninformed in this case.

Then again, maybe you lot do know more than Arsene Wenger. I mean, years of watching MOTD and Giflord posts might trump his experience and eye for the game.
 
Grinner said:
Another who clearly doesn't watch Arsenal very much.

What is it with you armchair experts?
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Lol every forums full of them mate. Check the Renato sanches thread some beauties in there.
 
Grinner said:
Another who clearly doesn't watch Arsenal very much.

What is it with you armchair experts?
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Apparently, Arsenal supporters don't even watch Arsenal any longer! First, it's the empty seats in the stadium and then it's empty chairs in front of televisions.

Most opponents in the league know that when they come up against Arsenal that they're, well, outgunned and sit back and let them have their possession. Or at least that there's nothing they can do about Arsenal's possession. Anyone who denies this might as well argue that LVG had United playing an exciting brand of counterattacking football.

Putting a different way, Arsenal under Wenger are famous for their possession tactics. But forget what I have to say.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...e-Wenger-Tactics-Transfer-News-Gossip-Rumours

Key takeway from this concise, yet solid assessment: Vardy's chart is a picture of flowing efficiency. Fourty-four per cent of the assists for his goals were played from less than 10 yards inside the opposing half or even further back. Arsenal scored precisely two goals in that manner in the entire 38-game season.

Another piece:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Arsene-Wenger-s-style-29-year-old-fit-in.html

Last season Arsenal played 4-2-3-1 in all 38 fixtures in the Premier League. Leicester, meanwhile, played 4-4-2 in all but four, and the similarities are few and far between.

One worry, though, would be whether this (Vardy up front in a 4231) works for Vardy. The striker is used to feeding off long balls but that's not the Arsenal way.

http://www.realsport101.com/does-vardy-really-fit-in-arsenals-style/

The two teams play as different a style as it is possible to imagine and still be playing the same game.

https://paininthearsenal.com/2016/06/04/arsenal-jamie-vardy-bid-not-all-that-spectacular/

Better yet, can [Vardy] play the way Arsenal play?

Vardy made a killing playing the counterattacking style that Leicester City popularized at the start of the season. They were scoring two to three goals a game with a fast-paced counter strike powered by Vardy and Mahrez. But when it came to slowing play down and controlling possession, Vardy lost his effectiveness.

That is how Arsenal play. Arsenal controls possession. No one had more possession last season than Arsenal. That’s not what Vardy is all about. He is going to be like a more effective Walcott. It provides an interesting alternative, but Arsenal are at their best when they have a Giroud-type up front that holds up play and springs his team mates on.

I won't go into each of the possibilities discussed in the Daily Mail piece but I'm sure we can trust that Wenger has a pretty good idea of how he'd use Vardy. But it's very clearly the case what where Vardy has excelled for Leicester City is leading the counterattack. Arsenal won't pass up the opportunity to counterattack if one presents itself, but counterattacking football simply isn't in Wenger's DNA.

Reasonable minds may differ on whether Vardy can adapt to Arsenal football -- or, I suppose, whether Wenger may adapt his tactics to suit Vardy (doubt it) -- but one would be oblivious to reality to suggest that Arsenal's tactics last season (and the 10 or so previous seasons) is similar to that of Leicester City or that they rarely enjoy more possession of the ball than their opponents.

I definitely encourage you to watch Arsenal next season.

I'm not suggesting Vardy would necessarily be a bad signing for Arsenal. They obviously could use a striker. But Vardy will either have to adapt to Arsenal or Arsenal will have to adapt to him. If it's neither it's not going to work.
 
We enjoy more of the ball because all the stronger teams do but ort style of play has changed since about 2012 or so because our team is packed with players like Ramsey, Coquelin, Giroud, Welbeck, Flamini who aren't as technical as the tiki-taka players we had from 06-10 like Fabregas, Rosicky, Hleb, Denilson, Van Persie. We play less combinations and our possession is more haphazard which allows for more direct attacks which hasn't really worked for us because Giroud can't really do direct either.

That's not to say we're like Leicester but Vardy could be useful in moving our play further in that direction.
 
Spack said:
Apparently, Arsenal supporters don't even watch Arsenal any longer! First, it's the empty seats in the stadium and then it's empty chairs in front of televisions.

Most opponents in the league know that when they come up against Arsenal that they're, well, outgunned and sit back and let them have their possession. Or at least that there's nothing they can do about Arsenal's possession. Anyone who denies this might as well argue that LVG had United playing an exciting brand of counterattacking football.

Putting a different way, Arsenal under Wenger are famous for their possession tactics. But forget what I have to say.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...e-Wenger-Tactics-Transfer-News-Gossip-Rumours

Key takeway from this concise, yet solid assessment: Vardy's chart is a picture of flowing efficiency. Fourty-four per cent of the assists for his goals were played from less than 10 yards inside the opposing half or even further back. Arsenal scored precisely two goals in that manner in the entire 38-game season.

Another piece:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Arsene-Wenger-s-style-29-year-old-fit-in.html

Last season Arsenal played 4-2-3-1 in all 38 fixtures in the Premier League. Leicester, meanwhile, played 4-4-2 in all but four, and the similarities are few and far between.

One worry, though, would be whether this (Vardy up front in a 4231) works for Vardy. The striker is used to feeding off long balls but that's not the Arsenal way.

http://www.realsport101.com/does-vardy-really-fit-in-arsenals-style/

The two teams play as different a style as it is possible to imagine and still be playing the same game.

https://paininthearsenal.com/2016/06/04/arsenal-jamie-vardy-bid-not-all-that-spectacular/

Better yet, can [Vardy] play the way Arsenal play?

Vardy made a killing playing the counterattacking style that Leicester City popularized at the start of the season. They were scoring two to three goals a game with a fast-paced counter strike powered by Vardy and Mahrez. But when it came to slowing play down and controlling possession, Vardy lost his effectiveness.

That is how Arsenal play. Arsenal controls possession. No one had more possession last season than Arsenal. That’s not what Vardy is all about. He is going to be like a more effective Walcott. It provides an interesting alternative, but Arsenal are at their best when they have a Giroud-type up front that holds up play and springs his team mates on.

I won't go into each of the possibilities discussed in the Daily Mail piece but I'm sure we can trust that Wenger has a pretty good idea of how he'd use Vardy. But it's very clearly the case what where Vardy has excelled for Leicester City is leading the counterattack. Arsenal won't pass up the opportunity to counterattack if one presents itself, but counterattacking football simply isn't in Wenger's DNA.

Reasonable minds may differ on whether Vardy can adapt to Arsenal football -- or, I suppose, whether Wenger may adapt his tactics to suit Vardy (doubt it) -- but one would be oblivious to reality to suggest that Arsenal's tactics last season (and the 10 or so previous seasons) is similar to that of Leicester City or that they rarely enjoy more possession of the ball than their opponents.

I definitely encourage you to watch Arsenal next season.

I'm not suggesting Vardy would necessarily be a bad signing for Arsenal. They obviously could use a striker. But Vardy will either have to adapt to Arsenal or Arsenal will have to adapt to him. If it's neither it's not going to work.
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Still a load of old guff. Why did you waste your time putting all that together?

"counterattacking football simply isn't in Wenger's DNA."...laughable. You haven't a clue, sunshine.

Ah, you're 23....that explains it. Do some research before giving it large.
 
Arsenal played counter attacking football against teams like City and Bayern. However against the weaker teams, they didn't.

Is it a surprise that Vardy's goals dried up in the latter half of the season, when teams figured out to play deep against Leicester and hence the constant 1-0 wins? Arsenal, just like any other big club will have to deal with teams who will sit deep against them.

I don't think Vardy is the man suitable for that role.
 
Not guaranteed to work out given he's had one brilliant season in his whole career, but also one that could. With Ozil and Carzola playing passes in behind, he might enjoy himself. But he'll have to figure out a way to perform against teams that sit back and defend. Last season he played in a team that sat back and it gave him plenty of room to run into in behind.
 
Archie Leach said:
The great thing about being a fan is you can do an about-face with no real repercussions.
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I'm not so worried about strikers since goals can come from all over the team. Sort out the other areas first. It's astounding to me that 20 million is throwaway money these days.

Looks like Wenger has had it with Giroud's lean spells, Welbeck's knees, and Feo's shitness.
 
murphs_law said:
Please!!! He is another Number 10... How many the goonies have now? 5? 7?

How many Number 10's can you fit in a first 11.
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Xhaka is in no way a number 10. Not for Basel, not for Mönchengladbach, and not for Switzerland. You need to do your research before shooting down people's opinions.
 
Oaencha said:
Xhaka is in no way a number 10. Not for Basel, not for Mönchengladbach, and not for Switzerland. You need to do your research before shooting down people's opinions.
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Yep. Xhaka plays much deeper and he's one of the more talented players not currently at a big club at that. It will be a good signing for Arsenal, they've been crying out for someone that can control midfield for years.
 
Sarni said:
Yep. Xhaka plays much deeper and he's one of the more talented players not currently at a big club at that. It will be a good signing for Arsenal, they've been crying out for someone that can control midfield for years.
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He has the potential to be world class imo. Arsenal haven't had a proper fiery all-action midfielder since Vieira. Saying that though, I've got a feeling PL teams are going to suss out his temper issues quickly and try to wind him up, ala Costa & Mitrovic. I can see him picking up alot of bookings.
 
Grinner said:
Wrong and uninformed in this case.

Then again, maybe you lot do know more than Arsene Wenger. I mean, years of watching MOTD and Giflord posts might trump his experience and eye for the game.
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Lvg is a CL winner and reached the WC semis yet didn't see what everybody (including the armchair experts) could.
Everybody else saw that having Giroud and Welbeck as your two options up top clearly wouldn't end well. There are numerous other examples of general incompetence.
Wenger has years of experience of not doing what is needed and failing to deliver. Of course posters can criticise what he's doing.
 
murphs_law said:
And you should really ready the whole conversation before you post. Good Lad
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Not a chance he will play as a number 10 at Arsenal... not a chance. You are making a poor attempt at deflecting your misinformed opinion of Xhaka, who you have clearly seen very little of, by coming out with a statement equivalent to 'Schneiderlin will play as a number 10 for Utd this season'.
 
Oaencha said:
Not a chance he will play as a number 10 at Arsenal... not a chance. You are making a poor attempt at deflecting your misinformed opinion of Xhaka, who you have clearly seen very little of, by coming out with a statement equivalent to 'Schneiderlin will play as a number 10 for Utd this season'.
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Dont have to. Whinger will make him into another number 10 in a team of number 10s. Or dont you get that
 
Oaencha said:
He has the potential to be world class imo. Arsenal haven't had a proper fiery all-action midfielder since Vieira. Saying that though, I've got a feeling PL teams are going to suss out his temper issues quickly and try to wind him up, ala Costa & Mitrovic. I can see him picking up alot of bookings.
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He'll get his head kicked in. Little wimp.
 
To get the thread back on track (yes, it actually is about Jamie Vardy and no one else) I suspect Vardy may be delaying his decision due to uncertainty about Mahrez and Kante, both of whom have offers from other clubs. He'd look a bit sick if he decided to stay at Leicester then the other two decided to leave. I think the fates of all 3 may be intertwined.
 
murphs_law said:
Dont have to. Whinger will make him into another number 10 in a team of number 10s. Or dont you get that
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Wenger would need to be dumped in a shopping trolley and wheeled off to the asylum if he used Xhaka as a no 10... but back to the thread. I am delighted Utd have dodged the Vardy bullet. He scores goals for Leicester because Ranieri managed to masterfully come up with a system which played to everyone's strengths. Take Vardy out of the system and drop him into a team which most teams park the bus against and he will get no space to run in behind the defence, effectively making him redundent.
 
Totally nothing against Arsenal on this one, but i really hope Leicester keep hold of Vardy and co. Would love to watch them with a full strength side in europe next year, rather than a broken imitation of the team which won the league.
 
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