Jadon Sancho - Chelsea (loan) watch

Even when Sancho was completely disinterested in taking players on here, he always had that though ball in behind the fullback and past the last line of defence. That ball to get Enzo in behind for Palmer’s sitter or for the penalty Palmer won were such simple passes under no pressure, yet so dangerous. His ball for Caicedo’s penalty required that extra level of precision and skill to thread the needle, but they’re all the same basic idea: pass it into space just inside the box and get the defence running back. It’s such a simple yet potent move. I’m sure he’s one of the best in the world at it. We rarely saw it, not because Sancho checked out, but because our players rarely made those simple, clever runs.
 
We can't do that anymore though. Chelsea are obliged to buy him at the end of loan and we have no say in that.

So I understand. I'm not overly bothered. Talented player but bad attitude and couldn't be relied upon in a battle.

I recall the Europa League game away to Sevilla 2 years ago where we got battered 3-0. We were under pressure in the 1st half and he pulled out of a 50-50 on the edge of our box. He was hooked at HT. I remember on here saying he should never play for the club again!

But he's one of those players I wonder if Amorim could get the best out of, but it's a moot point now!
 
For the most part he was useless with us. Bad attitude and lots of games where he didn't look mentally or physically strong enough for the PL.

However, if he's a player Amorim thinks can work in his system and can get the best out of, then it might be worth giving him another try. He has better technical ability and vision than Garnacho and Rashford so he'd be far better suited to that number 10 role than those two. That position probably doesn't require the same physical strength or pace as an out and out winger.

Personally, I don't like the guy. And if Amorim doesn't want anything to do with him, fair enough. But we don't have the luxury of insisting all our players are nice guys. I'd be happy with a team of 11 arseholes if the results were good!

Good post
 
Still think he'll be an issue long term for them, but by all accounts doing pretty well at the moment so I can't say shit.
 
Oh, I heard it was 20-25 mill. Every deal we do with Chelsea must come with a free tub of vaseline.....

(Correction, we probably pay for the vaseline too)
Given Chelsea are doing well, at least it will be near the top of that bracket.
 
Why is there so much pining for him from some United fans then if he's effectively gone? I just assumed there was an option to take him back!

Oh well, no point even thinking about him

Because as usual it's a stick to beat United with. Some people just seem to love wallowing in misery or finding more reasons to give out about decisions the club have made.

There was no way back for Sancho at United after everything that had gone on. He had to be sold. As you say there's no real point thinking about it.
 
Still think he'll be an issue long term for them, but by all accounts doing pretty well at the moment so I can't say shit.
In what way will he be an issue, though? I keep seeing this sentiment. Sancho is not the “main man” in our team. If his levels drop we have very good depth to rotate with him.
 
In what way will he be an issue, though? I keep seeing this sentiment. Sancho is not the “main man” in our team. If his levels drop we have very good depth to rotate with him.
That he'll get pissy when his levels do drop and the lateness, excuses, petulance, small illnesses, etc... suddenly return.
 
That he'll get pissy when his levels do drop and the lateness, excuses, petulance, small illnesses, etc... suddenly return.

Chelsea have more players than an NFL team. As petulant as he is, even he should be smart enough to realise that if he acts the cnut at Chelsea, they'll drop him down to train with the kids right quick.
 
Doing well at the 2nd placed team in the premier league is a high bar to call shit and one we arent getting back to anytime soon
3-4 decent games 4 months into the season isn't doing well. He's doing shit.
 
That he'll get pissy when his levels do drop and the lateness, excuses, petulance, small illnesses, etc... suddenly return.
I just feel like the massive weight of expectation being lifted off his shoulders has and will continue to do wonders for him. He no longer has that pressure of being the really expensive player who was meant to be the next attacking superstar for the PL’s biggest club. He can just be another good piece of the puzzle here.
 
Rangnick is very overrated at United imo.

People talk him up as this amazing manager - the fact is every manager we have had post fergie has been not good enough or from the past generation like LVG & especially Mourinho who came in a good 5 years too late.

Alot of our players get a lot of stack but get called upon like their individually not delivering whilst the whole team are playing consistently well.

The fact is all the team has been shit for a decade now due to many reasons - so then to single handedly blame a single player out of the whole team and management is doesnt make sense.
I don't understand the bold as well. I have asked Man Utd fans to name 5-7 successful transfers post Ferguson and many couldn't

I don't think it's the players fault
 
I don't understand the bold as well. I have asked Man Utd fans to name 5-7 successful transfers post Ferguson and many couldn't

I don't think it's the players fault
True but it's not going to be that simple, some players have been negative to us.
 
True but it's not going to be that simple, some players have been negative to us.
Post Ferguson it's possible you've had over 50 transfers and can't name 5 successful says more about the club than the players
 
Even when Sancho was completely disinterested in taking players on here, he always had that though ball in behind the fullback and past the last line of defence. That ball to get Enzo in behind for Palmer’s sitter or for the penalty Palmer won were such simple passes under no pressure, yet so dangerous. His ball for Caicedo’s penalty required that extra level of precision and skill to thread the needle, but they’re all the same basic idea: pass it into space just inside the box and get the defence running back. It’s such a simple yet potent move. I’m sure he’s one of the best in the world at it. We rarely saw it, not because Sancho checked out, but because our players rarely made those simple, clever runs.

That's what made Iniesta or Silva so effective (not comparing them of course) and the reason why Hazard sits at the top for MOTM awards in the PL. Those passes can cut a defense but will always be the pass before the assist. And it's why he works so well in the band of Cucurella-Enzo-Palmer. They make those runs for him all day, Enzo's run made the space for his goal as well. It's not that other players can't play it, it's the precision, weighting, and consistency that makes it truly effective.
 
It appears he generally has a poor attitude from what we hear from the outside but as a player he's better than all of our attackers barring maybe Amad on current form.

Ten Hag has literally dismantled our squad, signed maybe one good player in Mazraoui and the rest are dreadful. He's got rid of better players than he's signed and now Amorin is left to pick up the pieces with probably very little money to use.
 
TBF, post SAF, every superstar that joined us will turned into shit in no time. I think it's more our club problem than the players?
 
If you kick a ball really well at Chelsea, you get special rules! Hazard and Kante had their own set of rules. Sancho is a punt. He is still young enough to put his career back in order. If I was a United fan, I would not have glowing things to say about him either. So far this year, that punt has really been good. Him tracking back on defence is a welcome surprise. Maybe he is just now understanding that this is his last chance to be a part of a winning team? He might have finally accepted he is a player that is not going to be the star. It might also help being reunited with his academy mates.
 
Maybe ETH has incentivised him to become the best version of himself.
 
Clearly united had problem to fix him in a position. Rashford, Fernandez both star men for United before he arrived. Their game doesn't fit well with Sancho s style.

If Shaw stayed injury free Sancho on left wing could have worked out for you very well in my opinion. In right wing he had not so good passer as fb in AWB.
 
Post Ferguson it's possible you've had over 50 transfers and can't name 5 successful says more about the club than the players
So first of all, your post is an exaggeration, but whatever. Also, it might say more about the club, but it also doesn't say nothing about the player. It's not because Utd have been poorly run over the past 11 years that there's no blame on Sancho's side.
 
One more down the list at 7th is Christen Eriksen, says more about the stat than Sancho really.
Erikson has been a very good player though, just played slightly out of position and had declined a lot physically.
 
Erikson has been a very good player though, just played slightly out of position and had declined a lot physically.
What that poster is pointing out, I guess, is that when there is a very small sample size, bringing it to "per 90", means it isn't necessarily the most telling stat.
 
Clearly a quality player but even before ETH he never showed his best at Utd, clearly something wrong with his time here

It’s the football we play. I really wanted us to sign him, but myself and many others said at the time that Grealish to us and Sancho to City, stylistically, made more sense. I feel that time has proven that. Sancho thrives in teams that play more intricate football.
 
Only if he feels like it and/or the team is clicking, to be fair. I have no doubt his ceiling is higher, but that's not what we'd be getting
No, it doesn't.

You can point at his consistency, but he's without question a much better footballer than what anyone at MU on the attacking front, bar Diallo whom I'd personally prefer as an attacking midfielder. Especially in terms of footballing IQ.
 
No, it doesn't.

You can point at his consistency, but he's without question a much better footballer than what anyone at MU on the attacking front, bar Diallo whom I'd personally prefer as an attacking midfielder. Especially in terms of footballing IQ.
How does any of this matter if he never shows it? Pogba was a better footballer than the vast majority of midfielders, it counted for nothing
 
How does any of this matter if he never shows it? Pogba was a better footballer than the vast majority of midfielders, it counted for nothing
You never knew how to use both of them and you have a long history of ruining players since SAF left, especially the technical ones.
 
No, it doesn't.

You can point at his consistency, but he's without question a much better footballer than what anyone at MU on the attacking front, bar Diallo whom I'd personally prefer as an attacking midfielder. Especially in terms of footballing IQ.


Hojlund
Sancho - Amad
WB-Ugarte-Bruno/Mainoo-WB

Would have been beautifully balanced imo. i also see Amad as an AM. Hojlund/New Strikee would have gotten tonnes of chances because both Amad & Sancho have the ability to play through balls to a strikee after dribbling. :(

Shame i wont get to see it tested even if it would fail.


 
Hojlund
Sancho - Amad
WB-Ugarte-Bruno/Mainoo-WB

Would have been beautifully balanced imo. i also see Amad as an AM. Hojlund/New Strikee would have gotten tonnes of chances because both Amad & Sancho have the ability to play through balls to a strikee after dribbling. :(

Shame i wont get to see it tested even if it would fail.



Sancho was never going to push Bruno out of a #10 spot.
 
He's streets ahead of any of your wingers. Enough said.
Yeah, cause Rashford is quality...

He is quality, right?

Sancho isn't streets ahead either btw. Rashford is shit and Sancho is even more shit. Enough said.