He's a poor man's Veron.
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He also subbed him off so he can't have been that happy.
He hasn't had a run in a set position because he has not really impressed in any position since he has been here for more than a couple of games.
It is not tactical it is the simple fact that he can not impose himself in a game unless he comes on for the last 20 when the opposition are tiring.
It has been as plain as day since he has been here and it is only now that some can actually see it
man I do not know what to say about him, I am desperate for him to show us how good he is, but so far hasn't shown anything of note.
He was shit today, and he has been shit most of his time here, but I am still holding out for him, I still believe he can be good for us.
He was shit today, and he has been shit most of his time here, but I am still holding out for him, I still believe he can be good for us.
At 75 minutes. We've seen ETH hook players and even Sancho off at HT or before 60 mins if he's not happy. There is definitely a disconnect between what fans want to and like to see vs what ETH wants. I think Antony thread probably best shows it too.
What a monumental letdown he's been. Fecking tragic, since I love the guy.
Giving him 300k a week before he had really done anything of note in football was another monumental error from Woodward and co.
We've seen from quite a few other players now that doing the business in the Bundesliga is not really all that it's cracked up to be. Not only Havertz and Werner but also Weghorst scored 20 goals there a few years ago. That to me shows how poor that league has become.
Not sure how we sell Sancho either. Nobody would go near those wages so he'd have to be willing to half them to leave which is incredibly doubtful. All we can hope is he improves massively but I have lost hope on that.
We've seen from quite a few other players now that doing the business in the Bundesliga is not really all that it's cracked up to be. Not only Havertz and Werner but also Weghorst scored 20 goals there a few years ago. That to me shows how poor that league has become.
Not sure how we sell Sancho either. Nobody would go near those wages so he'd have to be willing to half them to leave which is incredibly doubtful. All we can hope is he improves massively but I have lost hope on that.
Weird, I fully expected ETH to throw him under the bus as he usually does
Yes and that is the ONLY mistake that was done here.
He looked a proper player, slightly overpriced but clearly very skillful and no "red flags" (unlike for the other right winger we got recently). He doesn't seem capable to make it in this league, but it's not like this could've been predicted before (hence this is called a "risk").
It shows how amazing a player like Rashford is.
Sancho destroys the Bundesliga but nothing in the PL whilst Rashford’s destroying the PL.
People overvalue other clubs players and under appreciate our own.
Sancho destroys the Bundesliga but nothing in the PL whilst Rashford’s destroying the PL.
People overvalue other clubs players and under appreciate our own.
To be fair ETH is, quite rightly, not going to come out and attack the players in public like Jose used to.
The only way to really know how happy he is with performances is by watching how often he plays them versus the other options.
I can’t believe the guy is still only 22. It feels like he’s been a first teamer for years and years.
I think his best position will be central and that's where Bruno plays so no chance there.
I wonder what his market value is and if there will be any interest in the lad.
I wonder what his market value is and if there will be any interest in the lad.
I'm amazed you think the issue with him is purely tactical. EtH has been really good in putting players in the right position to succeed. He's push Fred further forward as a CM and dropped Wout to No.10.
He's found the solution for every player it seems except Sancho. Ole, Southgate and RR weren't able to get anymore out of him either. Sancho is quite clearly the issue rather than any tactics. Pulling out of 50/50s or being physically and athletically inferior for the PL is not a tactical issue.
Sancho lacks a lot to be a top player, I'll list and rate him whilst breaking it down.
Shooting
Shooting Technique; 78
Shooting power; 75
Shooting Accuracy; 77
Curve; 70
Pace, Dribbling & strength
Dribbling; 83
Ability; 82
Reaction; 78
Position; 82
Movement; 80
Top speed; 78
Acceleration; 81
Aggression; 72
Body balance; 69
Stamina; 65
Tackling; 62
Mentality; 60
Passing
Passing Technique: 80
Short Passing: 83
Long passing : 72
Crossing: 70
I'm sure you would agree with that, no!?
Shooting
Shooting Technique; 78
Shooting power; 75
Shooting Accuracy; 77
Curve; 70
Pace, Dribbling & strength
Dribbling; 83
Ability; 82
Reaction; 78
Position; 82
Movement; 80
Top speed; 78
Acceleration; 81
Aggression; 72
Body balance; 69
Stamina; 65
Tackling; 62
Mentality; 60
Passing
Passing Technique: 80
Short Passing: 83
Long passing : 72
Crossing: 70
I'm sure you would agree with that, no!?
Dortmund laughing all the way to the bank again - I wonder which next world class player they'll sell us.......
It does make you wonder that Bellingham at a reported £150m is another disaster waiting to happen. If Sancho could just be decent then with his age the transfer could work. But £75m for a bench player is horrible.
It does make you wonder that Bellingham at a reported £150m is another disaster waiting to happen. If Sancho could just be decent then with his age the transfer could work. But £75m for a bench player is horrible.
I knew he wasn't great before in signed cos I saw him in a few England appearances and he didn't perform
Wish you'd said something in the meeting!
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Even the mental stuff he was being bigged up for - Awareness & Intelligence, he sorely lacks in my opinion
He does have composure at times, so I'll give him that at least.
Exactly this. Also, about the Fred example, we knew this is where he excells, we just couldn't use him this way because we had nobody holding the midfield. With Sancho, you really don't know how to use him because of those limitations you mentioned.
What a ridiculous post. His "Curve" is a strong 71.
Weird, I fully expected ETH to throw him under the bus as he usually does
Yes and that is the ONLY mistake that was done here.
He looked a proper player, slightly overpriced but clearly very skillful and no "red flags" (unlike for the other right winger we got recently). He doesn't seem capable to make it in this league, but it's not like this could've been predicted before (hence this is called a "risk").
Personally I think throwing cash around on very young players who look decent for a season or two is a very risky prospect. We've seen it far too many times that they don't always follow it up.
Not every transfer is going to work, we all know that, however we need to stop making mistakes that impact future spending. Massive wages and massive fees should go to more proven players rather than chasing the next Ballon d'or winner.
Yeah, but what skill moves can he do? And does he have the fancy passes trait?
He isn't good enough, its quite obvious
Sometimes I think I'd do a decent job as a scout.
I knew AWB and Maguire were poor signings immediately
He's had 2 years here. Hasn't looked good enough for any stretch of time. Time for him to move on in summer.
He's 22. When will people learn that a lot of players need time to mature. Rashford went through dog sht fazes for years and everyone wanted him sold. Same with a lot of players. We will see the real Sancho truly is in 2/3 years time. Same with Amad, Pellestri and Garnacho probably even longer. Young players will be up and down like fkn yo-yos. It just how it works. Sure some players seem to just peak and find consistency early but its rare. Sancho is a really good player thats going through a bad period. The fans should just support him and give him time like all our players and especially youngsters.
What the feck is this?
That’s good timing actually because if we keep him that long, he’ll be coming up to the end of his contract so we can release him on a free and save the heartbreak of him signing another whopping contract and staying for another 5 years.
Really want Sancho to succeed and I think he can but he wasn’t signed as a youngster with potential to be good in 5 years.
At his fee and wages you have to hit the ground rounding and unfortunately he hasn’t done that. I hope he can turn it around as Rashford has done recently.
The player we paid for in Sancho was a tricky flair RW/LW who can become a cornerstone of our frontline and hopefully replicate what he did with Dortmund. Now it's been 2 seasons and he is still struggling with the PL and there's talk of shoehorning him as a 10(which I don't believe he has the skillset for even though he's a tidy player with good link-up). That's not what we paid for. Personally I would like to see out the rest of the season with regards to Sancho. If he is still ineffective then try to sell. If he shows signs of improvement, then keep him but if we do that then I would like us to perhaps either buy a RB in the mold of hakimi that's fast, energetic and willing to overlap to allow sancho to come inside at times to link up or try to work with the RB's we have and coach them to have better synergy with Sancho. This should also be good for Anthony too and help make his PL integration easier.
It’s hilarious to see most of these posts about how bad the kid is, I mean none of us actually know why he was pulled from the squad and sent to work on mental and physical fitness. Will some of these fans still say the same thing, if next year at 24 he suddenly matures and starts controlling games and destroying opponents. We need to give the kid a chance and if he doesn’t come good by end of next year we can have this discussion again?
You don't pay 300k a week, or however much it is,
for someone to fulfill his potential 5 years after he signs the contract.
That's stupidity that even Woodward is incapable of.
I wouldn't mind for him to perform like a Yo-Yo, if I got some more glimpses of the upside of said yoyo.
I'm not going to write about Messi or Ronaldo like I initially wanted to because they're historical players,
but when you think of Iniesta, Fabregas, Zlatan from past years- they were bloody brilliant when they were 19-22, while also being crap in other games.
Vinicius Jr, De Jong, De Ligt, Ansu Fati from more recent years... have all shown a mixture of world class games with crap ones.
And at the toughtest leagues, that is.
Where are Sanco's brilliant games?
I really don't mind that he's sometimes crap. he's very young.
No one here is looking for perfection.
Heck, even Martial and Rashford (pre-ETH) have shown more than him in a United shirt when they were his age.
Sancho has played loads of world class games. Just not at United. But he has had a few good ones. All those players you mention were kids in their respective clubs and worked their way into the first team. They were settled in a settled side. Sancho moved countries and moved into a turbulent team at a young age. Even now when he does play he is played all over the place. RW, LW and now 10. Yes we paid a sht load and expected him to perform straight off but thats the stupidity of the recruitment and management team. Could it have worked? Sure. But its not exactly suprising it hasnt so far. Sometimes young players need time and a lot of love. I think Ten Haag gets this and its why he is handling him as gently as possible. Sure it might still not pay off but its too early to tell.
Sort of player who will look a world beater when things are going fine/team is purring, not the sort of player to dig you out of a hole imo.
No one is waiting another 2-3 years to see the "real" Sancho. That's just lunacy.
He's 22, so? We paid £73m for him and currently ~£270k a week, assuming he got the 25% CL wage deduction.
Rashford is a youth product who showed in his breakout season he could score plenty of goals and contribute at this level. Garnacho is a youth product on a fraction of Sancho's wages. Pellestri cost £7m and is on a fraction of a fraction of Sancho's wages. Amad is already on the transfer list.
Sancho belongs in the same bracket as Maguire and McTominay. They've failed here and if any club comes along with a decent offer for them, they'll be sold. Because they're not good enough.
The other 2 showed a lot more than Sancho has so far for us.
He is?
The rare glimpses of quality he produces gives me hope for him still. I won't write him off yet.
I think a few more will perform in Ten Hag's second season
I think a few more will perform in Ten Hag's second season
Aye, even Mkhitaryan was way better... and I thought he was absolutely crap.
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