TMDaines
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Selling him for the mooted figure is mental. His underlying expected numbers are fine and still great for his age, even if not quite what we hoped based on his time at Dortmund.
Fair enoughHe's got 0.48 goals + assists per 90 minutes in the league this season, which I'd argue is at the very least a passable level of output from a Premier League winger. Jack Grealish has 0.53 at City to give some context to this.
I understand that there's more to it than just numbers but, even when he's playing very very far from the best that we saw of him at Dortmund, Sancho is still a decently productive wide player. People arguing we should be accepting anything less than 50 million for him (I wouldn't even accept this) are fecking mental in my view.
What's Pellestri got to do with anything? He's competing with Rashford and Garnacho and in the pecking order he's firmly dead last in that list imo. Hardly mental to get a reasonable fee for a player that looks lost. The manager has done well to turn around quite a few of these players who not long ago nobody would bat a eye lid if they never played for the club again, yet Sancho is basically the same as last year.
Wanting to move Sancho on as we have Pellistri is probably the most mental of all United fan stances right now:
He’s terrible, he’ll be worth next to nothing in a few seasons. There’s nothing about him that screams elite player.Selling him for the mooted figure is mental. His underlying expected numbers are fine and still great for his age, even if not quite what we hoped based on his time at Dortmund.
He’s unable to take on a fullback, what is there to build up? He needs a world class fullback behind him to make the space for him and do his running. He needs a personality transplant to ever be successful at this level. Fergie would have cleared him out this summer, especially after he spent half the season in Holland doing beep tests while the rest of the squad were playing football.Fergie would have got him playing. What Sancho is seriously lacking is confidence, he's not coming on the pitch with excitement to play football and the confidence in himself or from his teammates. You can see it written all over him. If a manager gets in his ear and builds him up again then he'll be back.
When he was at Dortmund I thought he would be a typical Fergie player. Technically gifted, intelligent, good link-up play, plays with confidence, young, British. But now I am not sure he would have even signed him.Fergie would have got him playing. What Sancho is seriously lacking is confidence, he's not coming on the pitch with excitement to play football and the confidence in himself or from his teammates. You can see it written all over him. If a manager gets in his ear and builds him up again then he'll be back.
Fergie would have got him playing. What Sancho is seriously lacking is confidence, he's not coming on the pitch with excitement to play football and the confidence in himself or from his teammates. You can see it written all over him. If a manager gets in his ear and builds him up again then he'll be back.
He signed Antony, so yes he might just do.I ask myself would TenHaag sign Sancho and land on no every time.
He signed Antony, so yes he might just do.
Agreed. Antony at least keeps getting back up and being aggresive even through dry spells. I still have faith that he could become an important player for this team. Sancho is just too passive for my liking.At least Antony has a streak of toughness in him
Fergie would never have signed him.When he was at Dortmund I thought he would be a typical Fergie player. Technically gifted, intelligent, good link-up play, plays with confidence, young, British. But now I am not sure he would have even signed him.
Even in his last few years when the quality of our signings was rather average - i.e. Young and Valencia as wingers - they could at least run and didn’t hide. Sancho isn’t even doing that.
Under Fergie I can only think of Veron as a similar situation (great player with expensive fee who failed). But Veron for us was at least good in Europe and even had some crucial contributions in the league the year we won it. And still Fergie got rid after 2 years and we got half our money back.
Another underwhelming season from Sancho and we will not even get half our money back despite him still being young.
Sell him for 50-60m. We can always gamble on him becoming good and risk seeing him mostly on the bench for a full season losing value. Sell him while he's worth something. I'm not convinced he has the strength to become world class.
£60M is Havertz-type money. Sure, he hasn't done much either (and is overrated) but in his defence, he has shown flashes of brilliance and displayed such attributes in some competitions. He has a few big goals.
We'd lucky to get £30M for Sancho - slow, uncreative, a non-starter at United, on huge wages, and someone with no moments of actual brilliance.
He won't get shirt sales either. Not a big name. Saudi hopes are nonexistent.I can't imagine anyone wanting to pay even 30m for him on those wages
he's a busted flush in the PL for starters, and wages too big for the other leagues
Saudi Arabia is our only hope
I hope you realize football is played outside England as well. A 18 year old Sancho scored twelve goals and assisted 14 in Bundesliga and played 2.461 minutes for Dortmund. He has showed his talent and skills before. Sadly for United he's been mostly mediocore for last two seasons.Completely understand not losing hope but those still calling Sancho an exceptional talent is a bit strange. A 19 year old Garnacho has looked more promising in short cameos than Sancho has ever looked over the past 3 years. Maybe he can still provide balance to the squad and contribute positively but surely we've seen more than enough to not be delusional about his talent.
I hope you realize football is played outside England as well. A 18 year old Sancho scored twelve goals and assisted 14 in Bundesliga and played 2.461 minutes for Dortmund. He has showed his talent and skills before. Sadly for United he's been mostly mediocore for last two seasons.
18 year old Garnacho scored three times and played 569 minutes this season.
Garnacho is great prospect and he was more flashy last season than Sancho but its bit disturbing that people see Garnacho as equal to young Ronaldo when he has played under 600 minutes in top leagues.
Bundesliga is way more open than EPL. They play 34 games per season yet they score the same amount of goals - sometimes even more as other league with 38games.I hope you realize football is played outside England as well. A 18 year old Sancho scored twelve goals and assisted 14 in Bundesliga and played 2.461 minutes for Dortmund. He has showed his talent and skills before. Sadly for United he's been mostly mediocore for last two seasons.
18 year old Garnacho scored three times and played 569 minutes this season.
Garnacho is great prospect and he was more flashy last season than Sancho but its bit disturbing that people see Garnacho as equal to young Ronaldo when he has played under 600 minutes in top leagues.
His best chance of getting a starting spot will be if the Premier League introduce a five a side competition and then his skillset will come to the fore but until then I cannot see him being anything other then a squad option for the odd cameo.I wonder if he will get a chance as a CM/CAM hybrid player as back up to Mount or Fernándes.
He lacks work rate though but has the some of the other abilities.