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You still haven’t answered my question.
Eye test was not conclusive. I watched him and did not like what I saw.
You still haven’t answered my question.
It's 6 goals 6 assists in 31 Championship games.Don't know the stats but I watched a lot of their games especially towards the end of the season. You probably haven't watched much of him which is fair but having watched both him and Sancho he is a far more developed, and better player currently.
That changes nothing, Kagawa and Mkhitaryan type players are not suited for MUFC system.
Let us see what Sancho produces in the Euros, up against Mount and Sterling and Foden. If he outperforms them we can talk.
You’re flogging a dead horse with the poster mate. I haven’t seen one shred of an objective assessment from him/her.That's a horrible way to assess a player though. Fair enough if you don't rate him but an assessment should be made surely based on what he's done through the season but in X number of games for his country in a tourament.
That's a horrible way to assess a player though. Fair enough if you don't rate him but an assessment should be made surely based on what he's done through the season but in X number of games for his country in a tourament.
You’re flogging a dead horse with the poster mate. I haven’t seen one shred of an objective assessment from him/her.
That would be fair. Have you watched him enough to make that though?Assessing a player based on Bundesliga performances has not been too useful either in recent years.
Assessing a player based on Bundesliga performances has not been too useful either in recent years.
That would be fair. Have you watched him enough to make that though?
I’ve only watched a handful of games and he’s looked very mature for his age. I gather he’s been erratic in some though but I’d expect that from him at his age.
Not sure what you consider to be enough, in general my first impressions of a player are the most accurate.
I’d say 30 games not a first impression.Not sure what you consider to be enough, in general my first impressions of a player are the most accurate.
Thats not what people are saying. People are saying he's pretending to represent how Dortmund are feeling
Is this guy some sort of noob. Of course United know how good he is, hence why we want to buy him. Still doesn’t mean we should pay out the teeth for him.
He is seemingly passing on the sentiment in Dortmund, not his opinion
Hes pretending to. Literally didnt know of the breaking news yesterday for feck sake
I think all the talk was he would play in our u23 side or we would loan him back to Birmingham as he was not ready for The Premier league so it is a good example.Silly example- he’s a year older now and so obviously better than when he played in the championship. Also something of a prodigy.
We also wanted to sign him based all his ‘shine’ in the Championship, but he saw the next step ip in his progress as the bundesliga.
What’s doneIt's done. @EdWeatherall
@EdWeatherallWhat’s done
The Championship is a physical league, more so than the BundesligaHe seems to find international football easier as well.
:thumbs up:It's done. @EdWeatherall
Great post. Needs to be a threadmark.It's 6 goals 6 assists in 31 Championship games.
He's also about 5 years older.
Look, Grealish is a fantastic player and he would be a great buy for any top club. Don't get me wrong there.
I'm just doing this thought experiment as I'm somewhat baffled how people keep repeating that he's more proven at top level than Sancho and they wouldn't mind paying 120m for him, when
- he's entering his prime at 25 with less top division games under his belt than Sancho having just turned 21
- he spent half of his senior career playing Championship
- he's never even in his best season, and not even in Championship, reached the 20 league G+A that Sancho has reached in each of his 3 seasons, starting at 17 years old (while being his team's main creator and scorer as you say..)
- has never played a single game of Champions League or other European competition at 25, when Sancho has more than 20 CL games already
Grealish is awesome, but he sure is not more experienced or proven at the highest level than Sancho is, 5 years younger.
No news is good newsWe need some Sancho news soon before this thread eats itself.
Our latest offer from yesterday is greater than 75 million Pounds, so we'll see if that satisfies Dortmund's demands as expected.Dortmund still playing hard ball with this negotiation. At some point, Sancho is going to have to push for the move as i just don't see United being willing to pay 75m up front like what Dortmund is reportedly wanting
Well, for the third time nobody is criticising him if he is passing on Dortmund stance, its the apparent fact that he's pretending to. Jan is clearly scrambling after getting the no new bid tweet wrong not 24 hrs ago.listen, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I replied to a specific poster about a particular post. Please read:
To which you replied with meta commentary:
I don’t care if you think his information is valid/true. What’s not clicking?
It's funny how some people have already gotten bored of yesterday's news so are all in on flaming up some controversy to make up for the apparent boredom.Some terrific post about the transfer lately.
Our latest offer from yesterday is greater than 75 million Pounds, so we'll see if that satisfies Dortmund's demands as expected.
We don't know the fee details, but the guaranteed fee is greater than 67 million Pounds, and the total is greater than 75 million Pounds according to Adrian Kajumba.Yes, but is that 75m up front cash or the total which includes add-ons? The up front money seems to be the main sticking point in the negotiations.
Assessing a player based on Bundesliga performances has not been too useful either in recent years.
We don't know the fee details, but the guaranteed fee is greater than 67 million Pounds, and the total is greater than 75 million Pounds according to Adrian Kajumba.
EDIT: Whilst the English sources are still reporting 86 million Pounds (100 million Euros), a couple of more reliable German sources are reporting that 90 million Euros + 5 million in bonuses will be enough. If the latter offer will indeed be enough, then our latest offer should be accepted in due time.
Dortmund still playing hard ball with this negotiation. At some point, Sancho is going to have to push for the move as i just don't see United being willing to pay 75m up front like what Dortmund is reportedly wanting
You? A troll?@mazhar13 do you think I'm a troll?
You? A troll?
You wouldn't make a good troll even if you tried. Maybe if you were a bad cop, then...Yes me! Is that what you think of me
Assessing a player based on Bundesliga performances has not been too useful either in recent years.
You wouldn't make a good troll even if you tried. Maybe if you were a bad cop, then...
<3Oh good. You're my favourite transfer poster so I'm glad we can still be friends
Well, for the third time nobody is criticising him if he is passing on Dortmund stance, its the apparent fact that he's pretending to. Jan is clearly scrambling after getting the no new bid tweet wrong not 24 hrs ago.
Whats so hard to understand about that? Jesus, theres nothing meta about that.