Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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Come back with that line once Rice, or Grealish, or hell ANYONE has gone for the prices being talked about in the press.

A good's valuation is only settled when the money gets spent. I agree if Kinglsey Coman went for 100m than the Sancho price looks great. If Kinglsey Coman goes for 100m, I will personally fly to wherever you are on Earth (covid permitting) and eat a humble pie.

It's all press malarkey. Clubs have had almost two years of no fans. Anyone pretending that it has no impact on the finances of clubs is either a supporter of Chelsea, PSG or City (where it's true) or living in an alternate reality.

Sancho's camp agreed did they? Did we hear that from Mr. Zorc himself? Let us see how Sancho's camp feels in a few months, when he's facing another year of not getting the move he wants.

But that's not how market works. If Bayern says "Coman is worth €100m for us and he won't go below that", that is their decision. And if every club values their players so high currently and nobody moves this summer, that's the buyers' problem. If Dortmund is happy to miss out on €87m this summer for Sancho, than his price in the market is >€87m.

I don't get your last point. Are you suggesting there is no gentlemen's agreement and Zorc just pretended there was? I fear I won't discuss this.
 
You’ve got a bizarre way of looking at things.

3 top young talents, two can play on both sides, one can play through the middle.

2 are first team ready, one is probably a year or two off.

That’s the opposite of bad planning. If the 3 of them continue developing and improving we could be lining up with:

Amad. Sancho
Greenwood​

In a couple of seasons, with Greenwood having 2-3 full seasons under his belt, and Sancho being a “seasoned pro” having 4-5 full seasons.

Loving that optimism!

Also the bit in bold...its called a difference of opinion, you are not right and I am not wrong.
 
What's with all the hold up with Sancho deal? Looks like a free run two years running for United as it seems no one else is interested in signing him. I've not watched much of BuLi but everytime I've seen him for England I'm less than impressed. Maybe United see something the rest of the big boys don't.
 
What's with all the hold up with Sancho deal? Looks like a free run two years running for United as it seems no one else is interested in signing him. I've not watched much of BuLi but everytime I've seen him for England I'm less than impressed. Maybe United see something the rest of the big boys don't.
We were the only ones seriously in for Bruno and he's looked less than stellar for Portugal yet there's little question that he's the best midfielder in England not named De Bruyne
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.
 
If United planned to go after Sancho again this summer then why spend a penny on Amad, the scouts and transfer planning is as bad as ever.

I agree with the other posters. This is really a very special take on things. One thing our club seem to be hell bent on fixing is the transfers and scouting. Amad is a superb signing for the future and he ain’t in direct competition to Sancho at all. I am the opposite of you. I am very excited following this club for the years to come with all the talent we now have.
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.
Well our reputation post Sir Alex might have taken a beating but we are still one of the biggest boys still and this notion that all elite talents would have competition for their signature isn't true at all most would have that but some simply might be have a preference for specific team which might dissuade others Clubs from pursuing them meaningfully.
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.

Besides the fact that 3 or 4 of the big boys are having money problems there is also the fact that he wants to go back to England which rules bayern out who also happen to have Sane, Gnabry and coman for the wings. Chelsea are stacked in the attacking areas and only want a striker in that area, he and Pep seem to not like each other and Liverpool would have to sell Salah/Mane for this type of outlay.
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.
Why do people always say this when we’re in for someone?
 
What's with all the hold up with Sancho deal? Looks like a free run two years running for United as it seems no one else is interested in signing him. I've not watched much of BuLi but everytime I've seen him for England I'm less than impressed. Maybe United see something the rest of the big boys don't.

By all accounts Chelsea were interested but the player only wanted United.

Seems one of those were no one else is interested as everything has been agreed for some time between club and player.
 
Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean it can't be wrong.

When debating which player a football club should or shouldn't buy with fellow fans on the internet...seriously! there is no wrong opinions, it's all just a bit of fun.
 
I like this deal less and less as time goes on.

Rather pay less for someone good(Not a Dan James, obviously) and fix more positions, to be honest.
Fixing more positions would be more beneficial to our progression than breaking the bank on one and not even knowing whether we will fix the others.
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.
How do we know they aren't but he's dead set on joining United?
Is it beyond the realms of possibility that he really wants to come here and doesn't want to go elsewhere, hence theres no point in anyone else enquiring? It might geninuely be that no other clubs are interested though, who knows?
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.

Because he wants to go back to Manchester and to United
 
What's with all the hold up with Sancho deal? Looks like a free run two years running for United as it seems no one else is interested in signing him. I've not watched much of BuLi but everytime I've seen him for England I'm less than impressed. Maybe United see something the rest of the big boys don't.
Its not a free run. He wants to join us. Remember when we were told Chelsea were in for him etc etc and he'd 100 percent join his boyhood club?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
 
Spending millions on an 18 year old one summer (Amad) and then perusing a 21 year old in the next summer (Sancho) when you have a 19 year old already playing in their position (Greenwood) seems like terrible planning to me.

FYI never once did i say Amad was a bad player.
Greenwood will be a CF/second striker. Sancho will be the main RW with Amad the Yong and learning one. Don't see the issue. Well done to the club if they add one of the best young footballers on the planet in a huge problem position.
 
Didn't they have operating losses of over 75m Euros last season? Swear I read that.

This should be such a simple transfer, but I really believe it's now come down to personality and PR, rather than sense. Negotiations are by definition a compromise between two positions. BVB is not treating this like negotiations, rather like a sale in a store: this is the price, why are you asking me to accept anything else?

Which is kind of cute, but it's not how football transfers work, and everyone knows this.

The BVB stance is simple, disciplined and perhaps most strikingly: strategically using the press. Sancho is 120m. We are BVB, you are United, we will not negotatie with rich clubs. Then you get ESPN doing a feature article on how tough BVB are, and how smart BVB are, and how dumb the Glazers are (that last bit is true).

Someone mentioned the Dembele transfer as a measuring stick. So, how did that go exactly? Is there a person alive who thinks that 140m for Dembele was money well spent by the now in crippling debt Barcelona? I mean, aside from Zorc et al?

Anyway, my point is simply that this should be negotiation, not demands. If I were United I would absolutely wait til Sancho and his camp are done sitting on the bench at the Euros, and say listen, we'll pay the largest fee post-Covid for you, so go help get those guys at the table if you want to come.

Good post.
 
I like this deal less and less as time goes on.

Rather pay less for someone good(Not a Dan James, obviously) and fix more positions, to be honest.
Fixing more positions would be more beneficial to our progression than breaking the bank on one and not even knowing whether we will fix the others.
For the sake of 10 million euro what the point of missing out on out apparent top target again?
 
Dortmund need to remember that Glazers are neither ambitious nor generous.

They won't be desperate enough to be swindled by BVB as we've secured top 4 two seasons in a row and that's really all that matters to them.

If we were going for the title I think we'd have caved in.

Sancho will most likely fulfill his add-on clauses and BVB will end up handsomely paid overall.

Just accept the fecking bid!
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.


Steve Bruce played zero matches for England. Carrick played on 34, and Scholes quite Internation football due to the mess that was and is England.

That is your yardstick?
 
What Romano are you talking about because surely this can't be Fabrizio because he literally jumps onto every transfer story and add his typical nonsense and regurgitates everything ad nauseum that's basically his mo .
He hasn't with this. He could have easily jumped on the second bid bandwagon and refrained.
 
For the sake of 10 million euro what the point of missing out on out apparent top target again?
Altogether his fee is a lot of money, isn't it?
On top of that, if we make him one of the highest paid players at such a young age, it just feels like we'll be making the same mistakes we've been making over the last 8 years.

If we choose to sign a well-performing RW for less money, we'd be able to fix an additional position or two, which would make us a much greater threat imo.

Perhaps if Covid hadn't happened, we'd still be spending rather big, and I wouldn't be so concerned about the Sancho deal, but if we're signing him with the condition being we forego other positions, I know which side I'm leaning towards.
 
Not had a right winger of quality since 2009, need to fix other positions :rolleyes:
 
The Glazers don’t give a shit about what we want, they just tried to murder a 150 year old sport with an immensely rich culture and history, the very culture that built clubs like the one they own and is the foundation for every fan’s love for the sport.

We can not, nor will we, ever forget.
Personally, I'd say EUFA and FIFA are doing a pretty good job of "murdering" football, they don't really need any outside help.

Super League would have been a good idea if the big clubs had included some sort of relegation. As it was, no, not a good idea.
 
Loving that optimism!

Also the bit in bold...its called a difference of opinion, you are not right and I am not wrong.

Come on then Tom, what’s your best and more
importantly worst case scenario for having 3 top young talents on the books, all that are able to compete in 2 positions of a front 3?

Why is the planning so bad? We need a little more substance behind your negativity on signing both Amad and Sancho.
 
Altogether his fee is a lot of money, isn't it?
On top of that, if we make him one of the highest paid players at such a young age, it just feels like we'll be making the same mistakes we've been making over the last 8 years.

If we choose to sign a well-performing RW for less money, we'd be able to fix an additional position or two, which would make us a much greater threat imo.

Perhaps if Covid hadn't happened, we'd still be spending rather big, and I wouldn't be so concerned about the Sancho deal, but if we're signing him with the condition being we forego other positions, I know which side I'm leaning towards.

Well we need to back the manager and go for his plan so it's best to just get Sancho imo.

Also I don't know of any right wingers available that are even half as good as Sancho. Do you?

There is someone like Raphina but Leeds would rinse us for him or would refuse to sell us him.

Sometimes you just need to pay up for your top targets.

Everything we have seen about Sancho says he is worth the money.

Also last year we failed to sign Sancho and still forgoes the other important positions so there is no evidence to say the fund would be reallocated elsewhere.
 
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What's with all the hold up with Sancho deal? Looks like a free run two years running for United as it seems no one else is interested in signing him. I've not watched much of BuLi but everytime I've seen him for England I'm less than impressed. Maybe United see something the rest of the big boys don't.

Or the big boys already have top players in his position?

There isn't a better winger that is available.

His stats are insane even for the Bundesliga.
Been getting 30+ G/a since he was 18. Dortmund and Halaand struggled massively when he was out injured this season as well.
 
Hilarious to see Utd fans lose their shit over this, again, over the last few pages.

Why the hysterics all of a sudden? It's almost done. Just a little bit more.
 
Paying that amount of money for someone that can't get into the England team that has scored 1 goal in 2 games so far in eth EC.
If he is that good why aren't any of the big boys after him.
a) check out his contribution last season in the Bundeliga b) maybe it say more about Southgate than it does about Sancho - so far Southgate's tatics/subs have resembled Ole's... c) when did United not fit the description "big boys"?

d) I have to admit I can't make my mind up about Sancho but we do need a wide man and I can think of any others available or any better so...
 
Hilarious to see Utd fans lose their shit over this, again, over the last few pages.

Why the hysterics all of a sudden? It's almost done. Just a little bit more.
You’d think after 2 years we’d have a bit more patience. What’s a few more weeks?
 
Come on then Tom, what’s your best and more
importantly worst case scenario for having 3 top young talents on the books, all that are able to compete in 2 positions of a front 3?

Why is the planning so bad? We need a little more substance behind your negativity on signing both Amad and Sancho.

We've not got Sancho yet...if United/Glazers refuse to pay the extra 10 million then I'd be scratching my head why the club spent millions on Amad.

Great planning is for example...Cavani with Greenwood as his understudy is great and I love that!

Sancho (21) with Amad (18) as his understudy is a bit more tricky, especially IF it costs another 90 million on top of the 20-30 million spent last summer.

You can't see any logic in where I'm coming from?

Great if the transfer budget is limitless! and the current team is functioning, but we all know that both of those are not true. I can't see the Glazers giving funds to fix the CB and MF on top of the transfer for Sancho. It comes down to what you want more, another young talent untested in the Prem for 100 million or spend big on other areas and maybe buy an older experience player that can share the game time with Amad for 18 months on the RW.

Both players are super talented, I'm not arguing that. I'm just annoyed the club seems to be getting the run around in the market again.
 
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