I imagine there will be some clause where if anyone loans him, they will get some money for him at the end of the season. Or maybe his deal is put on hold while he's at another club. Its the only way I imagine anyone would loan him out, in his last year.A loan with an obligation...to what? Sign him on a free next summer
Ivan Toney Pt.2 | Signs for Al Ahli
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The link to another striker doesn't make any sense to me either, if we want to improve the attack, get rid of Sancho and Antony and then go get Williams.
Brentford are pretty stupid if true, they'll lose him for nothing next summer.
I want both because I'm very greedy
It just makes no sense, I'd imagine many clubs would want to finalize any deal after the PSR date in 2025 and that would be after his contract expires.
If he moves it will be in the last few days of the window.
Couldn't really blame him for taking £350K a week from the Saudis. He's never going to make that much anywhere else.
I think they could all play in a 2, but we are never dropping Bruno/Garnacho
Can see him taking the Saudi payday and that will be the end of him.
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Seeing as PL survival is worth £60mil and his replacement at Brentford is out for awhile, you can understand the high price. Looks more of a deterance than wanting to sell.
I don’t think he’d make much sense with Hojlund and Zirkzee already in the team. He’s still quite young and would expect to play more or less regularly, blocking the path to both of them. What we need is a cheap backup striker like Haller who could fill the void when others are injured, and step in for late minutes to relief first choice striker.
What about Morata as cheap backup?
We can only hope someone in Saudi thinks signing a United player is good for their image
Also good if available.
Weren't Milan keen at one point but went quiet
Morata is exactly the kind of useless stupid signing the old guard would have made.
He was poor for Chelsea, no reason to believe he’d be any better here.
I see you still haven't let this go.
I also admitted Morata would be a decent target. I just named Haller as he fits the bill and obviously being a former Ajax/Utrecht player would make him a very obvious target.
Riiiiight. The bolded is what I meant about you still going on about it as if that's the only thing we look for in our targets.
I thought at some point you would get bored of this act but you seem to be going strong. Kudos to you.
Amazed they have never thought to sign Rashford. On the pitch form aside imagine the PR if they got Rashford to move.
It’s definitely one of the factors we look at. I called us going after De Ligt well before we were even linked, just purely by knowing we would need a defender.
We don’t have any FFP concerns though so £10-20m we’d just keep him for a year - different story with DCL and Everton though I expect.
This is the deal we did with Arsenal and Raya to get them out of an FFP hole - he went on loan but extended his contract a year with an option that was really an obligation to buy this summer. So not completely as crazy a scenario as you might think.A loan with an obligation...to what? Sign him on a free next summer
Interesting. You have a source for this?
Like literally our transfers for the last 3 years. Nearly our entire back is Ajax players.
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And you think them playing for Ajax is the only reason we targeted them ? Nothing to do with them being better than what we had? Anyways I can see this is a pointless discussion when you have no credible source and not the thread for it too.
Not the only reason, no. A factor, definitely yes, in fact I can’t even believe someone would be so naive to deny this.
At no point in our history have we ever signed this many players for this much money who had a previous with the same club. I’m not even sure we would be able to find another club who over the course of 3 seasons would purchase this many players for this much money who in recent 4-5 years played for the same club.
It clearly is a factor contributing to our acquisitions.
Sorry, by going down 10-20m I mean if you're wanting 60, I think 40-50 is a more realistic price and if we want 40, then 20-30 is a more realistic price.
Oh ok that makes more sense
I don’t understand the links to Toney at all. He had a bit of a purple patch but has been quite rubbish since he returned from his ban. But that isn’t even the biggest issue. We play a one striker system and have Hojlund and Zirkzee, a third striker who isn’t a young prospect, just isn’t necessary and is a poor allocation of resources. He doesn’t have any versatility to play other positions and he has question marks over his temperament. And that’s before we mention he’s 28 and available on a free next season. Anything over 25m is too much for him, maybe 30m tops; and not to United who don’t need him.
If we don’t play either Hojlund or Zirkzee for availability or tactical reasons, we’ll either play Rashford or Garnacho there or go with a false 9. All available resources at this point should be dedicated to midfield and left back. No point signing another striker when the biggest problem we have is getting service to the strikers.
If we don’t play either Hojlund or Zirkzee for availability or tactical reasons, we’ll either play Rashford or Garnacho there or go with a false 9. All available resources at this point should be dedicated to midfield and left back. No point signing another striker when the biggest problem we have is getting service to the strikers.
This summer seems to have clear objectives. Solidify defense, move on the extra extra wages, and add a midfielder(s). Dont think we are seriously in for him. Seems more like the media want this to happen.
Not to add his age, price, and gambling issues this just doesnt make sense.
Now if next season we are still not racking up the numbers and improving the goal difference, then I think we will go big for the attacking department.
Not to add his age, price, and gambling issues this just doesnt make sense.
Now if next season we are still not racking up the numbers and improving the goal difference, then I think we will go big for the attacking department.
Alvarez replacement for City. Watch.
If he is we’ll soon be bemoaning why we didn’t snap him up and how good he has been under Pep.
That would be very annoying but could see it
Signed for AC Milan earlier in the window
You really don't understand Guardiola and his football philosophy if you think he will buy Ivan toney.
Oh god yeah so he did
I really don't understand why we keep getting linked with a move for Toney. Having brought in Zirkzee, another CF is one of our least prioritised needs.
I'd have bet money on him moving to Spurs, but obviously they signed Solanke. Maybe Chelsea or Arsenal might be tempted to move for Toney.
I'd have bet money on him moving to Spurs, but obviously they signed Solanke. Maybe Chelsea or Arsenal might be tempted to move for Toney.
Look at his current no. 9 then read your post again.
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