Ivan Perisic

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No thanks, rather you do, he swapped to the right in the first half as he did many times in the tournament and for Inter
I guessing your another who base your opinion off a few minutes of viewing him

He’s played on the left all tournament unless Rebic comes off. He plays on the left for inter but yes I’m the guy in the wrong. Not you argueing a case because he’s played a few games on the right for 40minutes.

When is the last time you’ve seen our wingers switch in a game? So I don’t get what makes you think he’s going to come here and we are going to start playing with wingers that switch all the time.
 
Why? At the time Oscar was performing really well and he wasn't.
If De Bruyne was given the equal amount of chances, he might have performed better too, guess we will never know. But in hindsight it was a disastrous decision by Mourinho and Chelsea and it's not like De Bruyne took a lot of time once he left Chelsea, he started tearing it up at Germany, so the talent was always there and Mourinho preferred the graft of Oscar over the talent of De Bruyne.
 
Want is he going to cost? With his last two world cup games they probably want £70m for him.
 
Most of the caf was relieved when his transfer to us fell through last summer. Looking back, it's obvious that Perisic crosses to Lukaku would have been a rich easy supply line of goals all season, as well as Perisic himself scoring a few of his own. Would still have meant not playing Martial/ Rashford too often, but the end result would have been us challenging for more last season. Instead we screwed around with Inter offering 35m instead of 50m, whilst City were signing up fullbacks for 30-50m without batting an eyelid. Oh well, there's always this summer to try make amends.

I'm not a Jose fanboy but it's clear that he's pretty savvy in the transfer market, particularly with unfancied unglamorous players who you know will end up putting a great shift in and, in Perisic's case, isn't exactly lacking in quality either.
Um he plays in Inter with a world class striker and his numbers are on par with Martial's for us.
 
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Said it last year will say it again he is a very good player . He is definitely a Moirinho type player . Make it happen I think he will be one that suprises people
 
What do you mean wants to play there, do you know him personally?
The point is he swaps regularly, played there many times for Inter. He's comfortable with both feet. Where he plays is more to do with whos playing on the otherside and their optimal position
And Sanchez has played on the right many times for Arsenal, Barca and Udinese.

Not understanding this pigeon hole outlook

I'm asking you, since you seem to think you know all the answers. I'm not telling you. Does he want to play on the right week in week out considering he hasnt been doing that?
 
Want is he going to cost? With his last two world cup games they probably want £70m for him.
Yeah, his price has basically doubled over the last few weeks. Why didn’t we sign him before the World Cup instead of Fred whose value has probably gone down!?
 
Yeah, his price has basically doubled over the last few weeks. Why didn’t we sign him before the World Cup instead of Fred whose value has probably gone down!?
are you for real:rolleyes: they are completely different players in different positions and Fred is a player we wanted and Perisic the one we passed on from the last window it seems. Had a great WC and would like to have him here but what you gonna do. We identify different targets, also if players like Chong gets a shot they can be at least of the same quality as him, just need ot be given chance. If we are to play Mata on the right with Lingard rotating, then it's time to be upset.. not now, everyone is an expert now
 
Yeah, his price has basically doubled over the last few weeks. Why didn’t we sign him before the World Cup instead of Fred whose value has probably gone down!?
His price has hardly changed. No one is in the queue waiting to sign him, by the look of rumours only we want to sign him. Inter demanded ridiculous amount of money last season when they were in a weaker position and this year with a new contract they would be asking even more with or without his world cup heroics.
 
Works both ways, that. People also like to praise players they’ve seen YouTube clips of like they’re experts.

Anyhow, he had a great tournament and he’s clearly a player Mourinho would work well with.

Watching youtube clips is not the same as actually watching a player play.
 
He has always been quite a nice consistent player, seems to always play well for Croatia in tournaments though.

If we wanted him time to buy was last summer would be stupid to buy him now for even more money. He also prefers playing on the left, does swap over but none of our other players like to swap so it really wouldn’t make sense. Plenty of other options instead.
 
He's a very good player. Maybe not the easiest on the eye but his desire is sensational.
 
Watching youtube clips is not the same as actually watching a player play.

Erm that's my point? :confused:

You're slagging people off for criticizing players they've never seen play. In the same vein, there's people who praise players they've never seen play, based on YouTube etc. This is usually after we've been linked.
 
Erm that's my point? :confused:

You're slagging people off for criticizing players they've never seen play. In the same vein, there's people who praise players they've never seen play, based on YouTube etc. This is usually after we've been linked.

Having opinions on players you have never seen play is stupid. That's the main point.
 
Having opinions on players you have never seen play is stupid. That's the main point.

Works booth ways bud. I'm 100% confident that plenty that have been lavishing praise on him over the past year know feck all about him and have probably never watched him play (bar Google and YouTube, of course). Why? All because we have been linked with him.
 
He's a very good player. Maybe not the easiest on the eye but his desire is sensational.

This notion has been going around since Jose wanted him last summer. Somehow just that link has made him technically inferior and pure workhorse. I'd have thought this World Cup run with one of the better possession based teams would have changed some opinions. He is not just desire or workrate, he is damn good technically. In fact, that's a more compelling reason to sign him than his willingness to track back..a player that can cross with either foot and well, strikes a ball exceptionally and has very good control and composure under high pressure ..
 
Works booth ways bud. I'm 100% confident that plenty that have been lavishing praise on him over the past year know feck all about him and have probably never watched him play (bar Google and YouTube, of course). Why? All because we have been linked with him.

Ok, but in the case of Perisic a lot had not even seen him play and were calling him average/crap/turd in the threads. People dont do that about apparant 'wonderkids' as are most threads on potential signings. It was easier for people to shit on him because of his age and the narrative that he was only a hard working, average player.

In fact he is two footed, has great delivery, has good pace, is a constant threat, is physically imposing and works hard for the team. Sounds like a damn good winger to me. People were acting like we only wanted him because he tracked back, which is absolute bullshit.
 
Ok, but in the case of Perisic a lot had not even seen him play and were calling him average/crap/turd in the threads. People dont do that about apparant 'wonderkids' as are most threads on potential signings. It was easier for people to shit on him because of his age and the narrative that he was only a hard working, average player.

Ok, but I'm still 100% confident some have been on the Perisic bandwagon despite knowing next to nothing about him, all because we have been linked. Anyhow, he is a very Mourinho signing but I don't see this one happening. So ultimately, peoples opinions on him don't really matter.
 
He can play on the right too.

I know he can, but he operates better on the left imo.

Either way, if we wanted to get him, we should have last season.

His price will have gone up even more after his good WC showing.
 
He’s played on the left all tournament unless Rebic comes off. He plays on the left for inter but yes I’m the guy in the wrong. Not you argueing a case because he’s played a few games on the right for 40minutes.

When is the last time you’ve seen our wingers switch in a game? So I don’t get what makes you think he’s going to come here and we are going to start playing with wingers that switch all the time.

And what about Euro 2016 or the qualifiers where he played games on the right? Yes, you are wrong, your just another person who judges a player on a few minutes. I mean, i guessing you are aware Rebic mainly plays on the left for his club? But for some bizarre reason played on the right for Croatia..

Its not my fault if you cant perceive that the tactic was to play byline wingers to provide crosses for Mandzukic rather than ones that cut in looking to shoot, but its nothing new, last year he supposedly sh!it, now hes not, thats the cafe for you.


Wow, the second sentence is ludicrous, maybe try watching our games harder. It happens. Did you ever watch Mou's Chelsea with Duff and Robben? Two left footed players that were switching....
 
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I'm asking you, since you seem to think you know all the answers. I'm not telling you. Does he want to play on the right week in week out considering he hasnt been doing that?

You do realise theres a manager that picks the team, right? he doesnt get to pick his position
 
He can play on the right too.
Yes, he can play on the right same as Neymar, Hazard, Reus, Ronaldo, Sanchez, Martial, etc. But, all of them are slightly better on the left.

For what I have seen of Perisic, he plays most of the time on the left for Inter.
 
Yes, he can play on the right same as Neymar, Hazard, Reus, Ronaldo, Sanchez, Martial, etc. But, all of them are slightly better on the left.

For what I have seen of Perisic, he plays most of the time on the left for Inter.

Most of these are right footed.

Perisic can play with both his legs well, doesn't mean he's better than this list but it means he can be efficient on either sides of the flank.

Anyway I think the ship has sailed but he would have been an immense addition on the flanks for us being able to play anywhere with great work rate.
 
Why? At the time Oscar was performing really well and he wasn't.
He wasn't. Just the type of player that Mourinho liked. Trackbacking & hardworking,etc.. he had those, when it came to playmaking, Oscar was an average 10.

That's why the guy playing in Chinese league now. Hindsight is 10/10 but still Chelsea & Mourinho were stupid as feck that they rated Oscar over anyone else.
 
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He wasn't. Just the type a player that Mourinho liked. Trackbacking & hardworking when it comes to playmaking, Oscar was an average 10.

All this track backing and hard-working was to enable Fabregas to step forward and do the playmaker role himself. We saw how Fabre was immense with Mourinho in 2 men midfield and dogshite with Conte in 2 men midfield. The only difference was Oscar, with him doing all the dirty work Fabre was able to step forward and create, while Conte wanted to play him as an all around CM which he failed miserably in it despite playing beside Kante who is better than Matic.

Clear example of how building a proper team machine differs from selecting big names and throwing them on the pitch.
 
He wasn't. Just the type of player that Mourinho liked. Trackbacking & hardworking when it comes to playmaking, Oscar was an average 10.

De Bruyne tracks back and works harder than Oscar if anything. Just maybe is higher risk reward than Oscar.

It was Mata that Mourinho shafted for Oscar.

With De bruyne and Lukaku both Mourinho wasnt ready to be patient while playing them and they werent ready to sit on the bench much and like Saf did with many Mourinho didnt want to convinvce them.much to fight either. He was like if you want to leave ok.
 
Most of the caf was relieved when his transfer to us fell through last summer. Looking back, it's obvious that Perisic crosses to Lukaku would have been a rich easy supply line of goals all season, as well as Perisic himself scoring a few of his own. Would still have meant not playing Martial/ Rashford too often, but the end result would have been us challenging for more last season. Instead we screwed around with Inter offering 35m instead of 50m, whilst City were signing up fullbacks for 30-50m without batting an eyelid. Oh well, there's always this summer to try make amends.

I'm not a Jose fanboy but it's clear that he's pretty savvy in the transfer market, particularly with unfancied unglamorous players who you know will end up putting a great shift in and, in Perisic's case, isn't exactly lacking in quality either.

Except his cross has not been good this Cup. Quite the opposite. In final he had 5 or so cross attempts not one of them was anybuse
 
Except his cross has not been good this Cup. Quite the opposite. In final he had 5 or so cross attempts not one of them was anybuse
This. His crossing is very overrated here, in the biggest match of his life, when he was in form, when his team had all the possession he could not put one decent cross in. Besides crosses these days have to damn good to be converted into goals, defenders are well drilled these days to keep them out.
 
We don't really need him to be honest. We have 3 players for the left wing, there are areas with more pressing concerns, and again I just don't think he'll be the kind of player to make us challengers just another guy who does a job. I wonder if people wanting to sign him have only ever seen him at this WC, because at club level he has always been a streaky player.
 
He wasn't. Just the type of player that Mourinho liked. Trackbacking & hardworking,etc.. he had those, when it comes to playmaking, Oscar was an average 10.

That's why the guy playing in Chinese league now. Hindsight is 10/10 but still Chelsea & Mourinho were stupid as feck that they rated Oscar over anyone else.
Absolutely. Oscar was preferred on the basis of his work rate of tracking back, not creating chances. He was average throughout except that Juventus goal.

Sometimes I feel jose picks up a defender first and then see if that player can also attack occasionally.
 
He had a great tournament but he'd clearly be a bit wasted as a wing back.

He's at his best in the box.
 
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