Ivan Perisic

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You read what the Inter fans are saying, and a lot question why're they're selling him at all, even for the reported 45mill. A few seem to think he's the prototypical Mourinho player infact and would shine under him.
I must say, I haven't seen this guy often, but I just get this sense like he might quickly turn into a fan fave, we've been devoid of a real winger for what feels like forever now.
 
I've had a drink with a couple Juventus friends of mine. They are absolutely thrilled we'll getting Perisic as he's Inter's best player
 
If he gives everything for the team then he can be a good signing - he can be even better if we sign lukaku and this guy is constantly hanging balls up to the back post.
 
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devilish said:
I've had a drink with a couple Juventus friends of mine. They are absolutely thrilled we'll getting Perisic as he's Inter's best player
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Absolutely thrilled? That's interesting cause I also had a drink with a couple of Italian friends that support Juventus and they were mostly apathetic and dgaf about Inter because of the joke of a club they have become.
 
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This is an easy one. Jose has had to really on players who can't defend and attack comfortably. Mikhi, martial, rashford all offer little going forward if they have to defend as well.

This guy is comfortable doing both.You might all love him as much as you love Valencia by this time next year.
 
devilish said:
I've had a drink with a couple Juventus friends of mine. They are absolutely thrilled we'll getting Perisic as he's Inter's best player
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He's not, and it's mental. Perisic is very good, but inter have money now, replacing him won't be hard
 
MadMike said:
Absolutely thrilled? That's interesting cause I also had a drink with a couple of Italian friends that support Juventus and they were mostly apathetic and dgaf about Inter because of the joke of a club they have become.
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they said pretty much the same thing but Perisic is their best player
 
Jim Beam said:
I'm not here to convince you, already told you why I also have doubts and what can be frustrating about him. Also, curious how he will react in situation where opponent park the bus at Old Trafford and he doesn't have all that space which he likes. I am hoping all that can be solve with our general set up for the next year. Just said that his 2015/16 season is not best to make clear judgment and it's definitely not a very valid argument not to buy him as you said.
He did played fair amount of games on the wing but only fully established himself there in the second half. Before that he was tried in two other positions, get a game or two on the wing, change of system again, etc... When he established himself on the wing he became much more consistent, build his numbers and played the way he played last season.

As of his time in Germany, he failed at Dortmund, even had personal clash with Klopp and then had 2 good season in Wolfsburg which earn him that transfer for Inter. Yes, in both seasons in Wolfsburg he was quite good. Also, it's apparent that he made significant progress in the last few years. He is much more direct and concrete player then he was before. That is proved both on club level and for his national team where he is best performer along with Modric (better than Rakitic for example).

He can offer definitely something different and can be very effective. Price tag is the issue and the way he adapts to EPL also, because as I said he won't have much time with it.
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I think it's a valid argument. If you think he was quite good for Wolfsburg, then there's no point discussing this further. He wasn't good enough for United during his time at Dortmund, Wolfsburg and his first season at Inter IMO.

devilish said:
I've had a drink with a couple Juventus friends of mine. They are absolutely thrilled we'll getting Perisic as he's Inter's best player
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That would be Icardi.
 
Red_toad said:
Liverpool have been as successful as City over the last 12 months. So how does your theory explain itself? Spurs haven't paid top dollar for anyone, yet more successful than City?
what you spend does not equate towhat you win in my book.
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Liverpool /Arsenal / Spurs don't by the top tier players as often as City/Utd/Chelsea do. It's not a theory, it's fact. I didn't say either way is a right way or a wrong way to do business, but overall, one group of these teams has been winning the league every year and one group hasn't got one league title between them in a long long time. I was just pointing out that if Utd fans are more concerned about getting "value for money signings" than getting the top players at any cost, they're going to have to accept that challenging for titles is going to be much harder in the long run.
 
shaky said:
Liverpool /Arsenal / Spurs don't by the top tier players as often as City/Utd/Chelsea do. It's not a theory, it's fact. I didn't say either way is a right way or a wrong way to do business, but overall, one group of these teams has been winning the league every year and one group hasn't got one league title between them in a long long time. I was just pointing out that if Utd fans are more concerned about getting "value for money signings" than getting the top players at any cost, they're going to have to accept that challenging for titles is going to be much harder in the long run.
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Even though I dislike the huge amount of money thrown around in football I have to agree with this post. Team after team have proven that spending brings results with a few off sessons. When was the last time Liverpool won a season? Tottenham? Now compare to the spending clubs City and Chelsea.
 
shaky said:
Liverpool /Arsenal / Spurs don't by the top tier players as often as City/Utd/Chelsea do. It's not a theory, it's fact. I didn't say either way is a right way or a wrong way to do business, but overall, one group of these teams has been winning the league every year and one group hasn't got one league title between them in a long long time. I was just pointing out that if Utd fans are more concerned about getting "value for money signings" than getting the top players at any cost, they're going to have to accept that challenging for titles is going to be much harder in the long run.
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United have spent an awful lot since Sir Alex left and not even gotten close to winning the league. We have the most expensive player ever in our team.
I'd say a lot of fans are more concerned with any signing being under 25, rather than how much they'd cost. Seems to be some kind of idea that player stay at clubs for a decade, rather than 3 or 4 years, as is more often than not the norm.
 
giorno said:
Bale is not a winger anymore. And he won't be playing winger for United. He barely accepts having to start mostly wide for a team that has Cristiano Ronaldo in it, no way he signs for you and accepts to play anywhere other than his favoured free role/second striker

Also, it would still take a world-record fee to sign him(but yes, you should sign him if you have the chance. But he's plan B to Griezmann, not a wing option)
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That sort of thing is hard to predict. Mourinho got Etoo to play wide. Bale might not want to leave, he might not want to come to United and he might want to play in the middle, but who knows?

As for the world record fee, that seems wrong. Bale turns 28 this summer and has 42 league starts in 2 years. His injuries are a real thing and Madrid have been better with Isco (a fine player of course) in his place. I think Bale's value is closer to the 70M Pounds range than Pogba's 90.
 
SirMattBugsby said:
Look at these evergreen fountains of optimism. Fills my heart with hope.
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Haha, it's not about sentiments, he's really not that good. He's a decent player, does what is asked of him, works hard, decision making is a bit erratic , he's not going to win you games or do anything like that.
 
devilish said:
I've had a drink with a couple Juventus friends of mine. They are absolutely thrilled we'll getting Perisic as he's Inter's best player
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It's either they're crazy or they don't know of a player called Icardi.
 
giorno said:
Bale is not a winger anymore. And he won't be playing winger for United. He barely accepts having to start mostly wide for a team that has Cristiano Ronaldo in it, no way he signs for you and accepts to play anywhere other than his favoured free role/second striker

Also, it would still take a world-record fee to sign him(but yes, you should sign him if you have the chance. But he's plan B to Griezmann, not a wing option)
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And if, in the unlikely circumstance Bale is signed and played on the wing, he'd be played on the right and not the left so wouldn't clash with Perisic.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Or because they actually watch more Italian football than all the English Inter Milan experts on here.
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Well, sorry to break it to you but I am not English and I watch Italian football, the top teams at least. There's not a single sane person that knows Inter who will make that statement. Their best player is Icardi.
 
Damien said:
And if, in the unlikely circumstance Bale is signed and played on the wing, he'd be played on the right and not the left so wouldn't clash with Perisic.
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My problem with bale( who i rate as one of top 3 wingers in the world) is his 345 injuries in last 5 years. For 100 mil and 300k per week, i want a player who will play nearly every game. Bale is just a huge risk.
 
legball said:
Well, sorry to break it to you but I am not English and I watch Italian football, the top teams at least. There's not a single sane person that knows Inter who will make that statement. Their best player is Icardi.
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So those Juve fans are insane? :D
 
Ban said:
So those Juve fans are insane? :D
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Yeah, they are. Mind you, in terms of performances this season it was close, but Perisic...he'd be the same player wherever you put him. Icardi would have smashed Higuain's record at Napoli...

@Damien true, though signing Bale and force him on the wing would make only slightly more sense than doing the same with Griezmann. He's a monster in a free role. As a winger, particularly on the right, he's good, but nothing that special. Maybe on the left he could still recaptute his 2010/11 heights, but why would you even bother? He's a game winner in the middle

It's not a coincidence that his best games for us came when cristiano was out...
 
devilish said:
Icardi is a goal poacher. Perisic is more than that
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Icardi is still Inter's best player.

Perisic league stats (Season Club start(sub) goals assist)
2016/17 Inter 31(5) 11/8
2015/16 Inter 26(8) 7/6
2014/15 Wolfsburg 21(3) 5/4
2013/14 Wolfsburg 24(9) 10/4
2012/13 Dort/Wolfs 12(13) 4/1
2011/12 Dortmund 8(20) 7/3

Perisc has scored 10+ goals only twice and has never had 10+ assists in a league season. Of course he can still be a great player to a club like Inter or Southampton, but in the context of United, he is as average as they come.

To give some comparison, Fellaini had 11 goals and 5 assists in 31 league starts in his last season with Everton (in a much tougher and faster PL) and he was only 25 back then. Who knows, Fellaini could have been a devastating scorer for Inter at 28.:D
 
legball said:
Lol, ok mate, perhaps there's another Inter Milan and Perisic that I don't know of.
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Is the opinion of those who not only follow the Serie A as I do but actually support the clubs in it. But hey, who cares
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Icardi is still Inter's best player.

Perisic league stats (Season Club start(sub) goals assist)
2016/17 Inter 31(5) 11/8
2015/16 Inter 26(8) 7/6
2014/15 Wolfsburg 21(3) 5/4
2013/14 Wolfsburg 24(9) 10/4
2012/13 Dort/Wolfs 12(13) 4/1
2011/12 Dortmund 8(20) 7/3

Perisc has scored 10+ goals only twice and has never had 10+ assists in a league season. Of course he can still be a great player to a club like Inter or Southampton, but in the context of United, he is as average as they come.

To give some comparison, Fellaini had 11 goals and 5 assists in 31 league starts in his last season with Everton (in a much tougher and faster PL) and he was only 25 back then. Who knows, Fellaini could have been a devastating scorer for Inter at 28.:D
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Fellaini was a no 10 with Everton that year. Perisic plays as a winger
 
devilish said:
Is the opinion of those who not only follow the Serie A as I do but actually support the clubs in it. But hey, who cares
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Unrelated to Perisisc. Who do you follow in Serie A just out of curiosity, you've always come across as having a much more extensive knowledge of the league than most other posters here, over the years.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Unrelated to Perisisc. Who do you follow in Serie A just out of curiosity, you've always come across as having a much more extensive knowledge of the league than most other posters here, over the years.
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I follow the Serie A top clubs mostly. I used to be a big fan of AC Milan's play in the late 80s and early 90s and nowadays I have a soft spot at Juventus
 
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