So we should stay away from signing expensive players altogether then? Just in the off chance that they can't handle being called a waste of money by some nobodies on twitter?
Ivan Perisic
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Regarding the idea of a LW that provides width, why don't we leave the width to the fullbacks and sign an attacking leftback instead? Doing that would allow us to have a wide forward (Martial, Griezmann, etc) on one wing and a wide playmaker (Mkhitaryan, Mata, etc) on the other. Assuming we're playing 4-3-3, when the fullbacks burst up the pitch, our CDM (ie. Fabinho) would drop into the back line to form a trio. Personally, signing someone with the sole purpose of running down the line and crossing seems like a waste when we could easily leave that job to the LB. If we played 4-3-3, we could proceed like this:
WF (Martial/AG) ----ST----Mkhitaryan
--------------Pogba-------------Herrera
-------------------------CDM(Fabinho)-----------
LB---------CB----------Bailly---------Valencia
In attack, it would be more like this:
-----------------WF------ST
----------------------Mhiki
LB--------Pogba------Herrera-----Valencia
-------------CB----CDM---Bailly
I suppose Jose has his tried and tested methods, but considering our current personnel and our other targets, this makes the most sense imo.
WF (Martial/AG) ----ST----Mkhitaryan
--------------Pogba-------------Herrera
-------------------------CDM(Fabinho)-----------
LB---------CB----------Bailly---------Valencia
In attack, it would be more like this:
-----------------WF------ST
----------------------Mhiki
LB--------Pogba------Herrera-----Valencia
-------------CB----CDM---Bailly
I suppose Jose has his tried and tested methods, but considering our current personnel and our other targets, this makes the most sense imo.
Think he's coming here to start mate. Mourinho clearly wants a left winger who can hug the line, keep the width and shield the fullback , things which Martial has struggled with all last year.
Absolutely if they are old. Young players get away with it because we can all say the magic word 'POTENTIAL' if they feck up a la Martial. Not for Perisic, unfortunately.
Lingard and Persic on the wings, our CL opponents will be quaking in their boots!!
I'm guessing he's giving shaw another chance to provide that.
If it doesn't work out then we've got a decent winger who can do a job in front of Blind or Darmian
Why not Mkhitaryan and Perisic? A lot of quality there.
I've read this a few times and reckon it might be true, but it's shit. Why setup your teams like that deliberately. Surely it's better if both fullbacks can attack and both midfielders in front of them can either sit back and support the fullback in defence or venture forward and launch attacks themselves. What's wrong with a bit of versatility and unpredictability!
From what people are saying (I know nothing about him) he sounds like he'd be a useful option.
I can't say paying quite a lot of money for a 28 year old winger fills me with confidence our manager is planning for the future, though.
I can't say paying quite a lot of money for a 28 year old winger fills me with confidence our manager is planning for the future, though.
Can we just sign Kuyt and be done with it?
Mkhitaryan hasn't dazzled in the wide areas, he's much better as a number 10. I seriously hope we don't sign this lad. Our transfers/rumours and contract extensions are seriously underwhelming. Let's give Zlatan a 300k deal too....
What an underwhelming signing that would be.
Perisic is a good player but we can overpay for a player with bigger ceiling IMO like Mbappe, not for a 28 years old hardworking winger.
He would offer tactical variation on the left wing compared to Rashford,but 50 fecking million...
Potential is all very nice but you're going to get more ups and downs from young players. I'm far less worried about signing experience than I am about signing "prospects". We need players that are at their peak just now if we're serious about competing for the league next season.
His peak isn't very high though. That's the worry. If he isn't Hazard or Sanchez standard, the media will rip him to shreds in an instant. I certainly don't want another Angel di Maria scenario. That shit made me sick.
Frankly, after last season, I just want Mourinho to get the players he wants and I really couldn't give an iota of care about what we pay for them. If we went out and signed Mbappe tomorrow for £150m, I would be delighted.Perisic is a good player but we can overpay for a player with bigger ceiling IMO like Mbappe, not for a 28 years old hardworking winger.
He would offer tactical variation on the left wing compared to Rashford,but 50 fecking million...
Cause it doesn't suit his argument.
This would've been my thinking too, but looking at the price we seem to be willing to pay for Perisic, there's no way he's going to be a backup option.
That's what a lot of people have issues with. Perisic was good for Croatia during the last World Cup and the last Euros. 2016/17 was arguably his best season, which was a good season, but hardly enough at his age to earn such a move. He never was good enough for Dortmund, hence they sold him. For whatever reason his 2015/16 season isn't spoken about in here, when it should be a very valid argument why we shouldn't sign him. I'm not even sure, why it's such a big deal to suggest that this isn't a good signing or that there are better players out there.
You really want Perisic in United,dont you
Jose has made 4 good signings out of 4.
4 out of 5 is impressive. Not many coaches could ,manage that. But I think this one is not so good. Personally id prefer Sessegnon to give us width on the left. At least he could grow into the role and probably provide as many goals and assists right off the bat. If that works then we have a champion player on our hands for years to come.
4 out of 5 is impressive. Not many coaches could ,manage that. But I think this one is not so good. Personally id prefer Sessegnon to give us width on the left. At least he could grow into the role and probably provide as many goals and assists right off the bat. If that works then we have a champion player on our hands for years to come.
There are better players than him even in his league, and what is this obsession with Willian? Willian did not win Chelsea any titles. In fact, the 2 times they have won the title, Willian was only okish and top wingers like Hazard have delivered the title. We need less Willian's in our lives and more quality in the attack. We created chances last season and lacked the quality. If we add a man who has an extremely low conversion rate and isn't even a consistent scorer, I struggle to see how we would be ok
No, I don't. I mean I would like to see him at United of course, him being Croatian, but I'm careful and I'm aware he's not all that.
On the other hand he's certainly not garbage like he's portrayed here, not to mention ridiculous comparisons with Kuyt and Young.
I think he could be have a good time at United and will help us a lot but he's already judged harshly and his every move will be watched, not to mention him having a bad game.
If we pay that much for him, I'd assume Jose believes he will be a good suit for the football he wants us to play. It's about having the right pieces in the right places. Like a Di Maria scenario in reverse. Instead of getting the world superstar that we all thought we wanted, we get the player that will actually do the job required instead. In theory anyway. I'm not saying he's great, I don't know that much about him to be perfectly honest, but I trust the manager's judgement 100%. He's hardly intentionally going out to buy duffers, is he?
You don't sign side players that rely on their pace at 28 for £50m. End of.
Its because that fee is going into the territory of actual quality players. Its like you spending 45-50k on an aldi A3 when you could get a brand new BMW or a Merc. It looks stupid. Also, as we do not have unlimited funds, it makes sense not to overspend on players unless they are top brass in the world in their position. Perisic is not and never will be that so.................
Ok then. Argument closed.
Of course, he does because he is Croatian. There is an inherent sense of satisfaction & pride to see one of yours play for a club you like. Same stuff happened at the start off the season this past season(Ibra arrival) when there was a small increase in the number of Swedish people here. You cannot blame the poster and their enthusiasm for that player.
Thats why i asked,you are brave soul even for "would like to see him at United" part. Can imagine...few months forward,he fecks up and then comments like "52 mil well spent" start flying around.
Kinda funny,this place turned into such a piss pool that if Vidic stayed instead of going to Inter,people here would call him names or wage leecher and think that would annoy me as feck.
I would agree that having the 2 backs attacks together is better, but each manager has the right to set up his team in the way he thinks it's the best to suit his style and bring victories. If he brought victories next season with this setup, I don't think anyone will complain.
I'm not enthusiastic, I'm happy if it will come true. I just hate to see people writing about stuff they don't know a thing about.
And who is blaming poster for wanting him in United,even tho that poster said "No". So not sure why you jump in without parachute.
I trust Jose's judgement too and he is probably a decent player, don't get me wrong. I only question whether he's up for it and whether he can push himself beyond what he's shown so far to achieve an even higher performance level at 28 year old. Because if not, we will have to pick up the pieces.
Of course... Even a legend like Vidić would be treated harshly. Heck some of the stuff about Fergie even I read here.... It's such a cesspit sometimes.
He won't be given a fair chance. At best he'll be treated like Rojo, praised but a certain amount of posters will happily pop out to bash on him every time he has a bad game. With of course the price part (if it will even be that one).
Because you will be going against Jose's wishes. If Jose wanted to sign Matthew Upson, you have to be in agreement. Its football forum fascism, which is on the rise along with the far right across Europe and America. This is a deal that I will refuse to believe in until it actually happens as we are better than this. If it does happens, I will harbour zero expectation but will happily turn coat if he succeeds.
I hope we looked at Lemar instead of this guy for the left wing. I've seen Perisic since he signed for Dortmund and he has never impressed me at all.
MY take would be that perhaps both Keita and Martial are similar, even if they are not I guess Maureen still has faith in Martial. So Perisic would be a stop gap kind of player and takes pressure off Martial so he can play and develop better as a player. Supposedly Perisic is more experienced and more hardworking and probably more consistent to follow Maureens instructions better than Martial who is still finding his feet at United.
In fact there's a solid theory that goals are only the result of quantum fluctuations in the vacuum and they pretty much come from nowhere.
Wonder what Inter would say if we went full Italy on them,2 years of loan first with obligation to pay after in 10 rates or some shit like that.
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