Ivan Perisic

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We need a LW more than a RW because in Jose plan, the one responsible for providing the width on the right is Valencia not the RW. It's not a disadvantage of players, it's because Jose wants the RW to join the midfield and give Valencia space to rush forward and cross. Mikhi, Mata and Lingard can do this job but on the other side, he wants the LW to stick on the flank to provide width, especially when playing a LB that is only concerned with defense behind that LW. He tried Martial in this job and he failed as the only thing he does on the flank is to try to beat the next defender till it fail. Martial style of play is suited to cutting inside, which isn't what Jose wants him to do especially when giving the RW instructions to cut inside and joint the midfield. This devoid us of any width bar Valencia.

If you are going to play with Jose's classical 4-2-3-1, then yeah signing a LW to provide width makes perfect sense for me more than RW. The debate is whether Perisic is good or not or what we can find a better replacements for him for the job Jose wants him to do on the left, but in the tactical point of view, we do need a LW that always provides width to the team and allows the LB to set back defensively as Jose wants, otherwise, we'll get stuck with all our players crowded in the midfield with r trying to cut inside with only Valenica as a flank player, and this gives us troubles against any parked buses.

Searching for such a player makes perfect sense, whatever Perisic is up to it or not, Jose thought he is up to it then let's see.

Good post but think thats harsh.
Martial has his uses and his strengths, tracking back and getting involved in the play deeper isn't one of them. Same with Rashford.
I hope the pair of them get their chances starting as the #9 till zlatan gets back, next season.
Or if they do start on the left then they're pushed high up the pitch on the shoulder of the last defender and given a job they're suited for.

This guy provides something different. People are welcome to criticise the quality of the player but we do need someone like him.
Giving Pogba a bit of extra support and reliability could free him up to push forward more too.

I'd probably be inclined to look for a full back who could do the job
but I dont have any particular objections to giving shaw one more year to get over his injury and recover his form
 
45M pounds for a 28 year old that's barely average is such a robbery. By that logic, we should be selling Martial for 60M
 
Goals do not just exist in a vacuum like that.

I think a lot of people here think that we created enough chances (and there are stats to back them up) last year, we just didn't finish them. I'm not one of those people, so a Perisic signing scares me because I could see him playing on the wing and being another player who can't really help us create attacks.
 
Martial is a striker whose playing as a winger. Same as Rashford. Its only fair for Mou to add a winger on the left and maybe move Rashford/Martial behind the main striker were they belong.

Perisic does that. He's a proper winger who gives us much needed width that we lack. He's not world class but he's quite good in what he does and in many ways he's the best wingers there are.

But hey lets compare him to Kuyt and Park
 
45M pounds for a 28 year old that's barely average is such a robbery. By that logic, we should be selling Martial for 60M

We bought him for 50m 2 years ago :confused:
I'd say we could get 60m for him easy, even with us paying the united tax.
 
We bought him for 50m 2 years ago :confused:
I'd say we could get 60m for him easy, even with us paying the united tax.

With Martial being hit and miss these days, I would say that you're being a tad bit optimistic. None of the big clubs would want Martial for that fee, then again I don't think any of them even want Martial.
 
He isn't a bad player by any means but it's time for United to splash money on genuine top class quality.
 
I only just realised he is left footed. He is very good with both feet. I am confident this signing will be a good one.
 
45M pounds for a 28 year old that's barely average is such a robbery. By that logic, we should be selling Martial for 60M
I'm seriously hoping it's not true and happens to all be paper bollocks.

Imagine signing Perisic for that amount. Woodward would have a nightmare negotiating deals for our other potential signings as they would rationalise their asking price in relation to what was paid for Perisic.

I know we're cash rich but the rumoured prices defies all logic.
 
If we sign him, what does this mean for Martial? I really hope Jose doesn't do anything irrational and sells him. Watch his highlights from from his first season and he looked like our own version of Mbappe.
 
that's the thing. People keep repeating the same crap over and over again. Shouldn't they end up reading my same crap over and over again? At least I present it in a relatively creative way (in my opinion that song is mint for example)

I can sympathise that people feel butthurt that we didn't buy that shiny toy they expected. However Perisic is nowhere similar to Park or Kuyt
Fair do's.
 
45m is a bit too much. Having said that there aren't many players like him around (ie traditional wingers) which makes him one of the best in the sector. The irony is that while people in here are comparing him to Kuyt and Park, in Milan the situation is completely opposite. Boban went absolute bonkers about this calling Inter idiots for letting Perisic go.
 
45M pounds for a 28 year old that's barely average is such a robbery. By that logic, we should be selling Martial for 60M
Perhaps he's not actually "barely average" as you suggest. Maybe he's a player that Mourinho really thinks will improve the way we play, so paying a bit over the odds is worth it, rather than paying a bargain price for a different player who isn't quite what Jose wants.
 
Quando parla, Zvonimir Boban fa sempre discutere. Sia nella sua ormai vecchia veste di commentatore televisivo che come segretario della Fifa e stretto collaboratore del presidente Gianni Infantino. Intervistato dalla Gazzetta dello Sport, infatti, l'ex trequartista - tra le altre - del Milan si è soffermato su un calciatore croato come lui, Ivan Perisic: "Se mi piace Perisic? È stato il migliore dell'Inter degli ultimi due anni. Corre, supera il terzino, è un uomo serissimo. Solo che, venendo dai Balcani, gli affibbiano l'etichetta di discontinuo: lo dicevano anche di me".

'NON CAPISCONO DI CALCIO' - Poi, Boban lancia una stoccata al club nerazzurro: "Non riesco a capire come si faccia a discutere di lui o perché lo dovrebbero vendere. Se capiscono così poco di calcio... va beh, è la vita. Ma io penso che sarebbe assurdo se lo vendessero perché pensano che tatticamente o tecnicamente non può stare in questa squadra. Lo troverei davvero molto, molto strano. ".

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Boban on Perisic "He's the best Inter's player in the past 2 years. He runs like a full back and he's extremely professional. Unfortunately he comes from the Balkans therefore they criticize him for being inconsistent. I know the feeling as they pretty much said the same about me"

"I can't understand how can anyone misjudge him or why he's going to be sold. Its evident that they don't understand football. Oh well that's life. Those who think that Inter should sell him because he doesn't fit in their system (due to tactics or lack of technique) are being absurd
 
45m is a bit too much. Having said that there aren't many players like him around (ie traditional wingers) which makes him one of the best in the sector. The irony is that while people in here are comparing him to Kuyt and Park, in Milan the situation is completely opposite. Boban went absolute bonkers about this calling Inter idiots for letting Perisic go.

Yeah, it's weird reading the contrast in what Inter fans are saying about the deal, compared to the Caf.
 
Yeah, it's weird reading the majority of Inter fans are saying about the deal, compared to the Caf.

the funny thing is that we were probably going to sign Perisic irrespective of Griezmann. The ones benefiting from us not signing the French dude are Martial and Rashford not Perisic.
 
Perhaps he's not actually "barely average" as you suggest. Maybe he's a player that Mourinho really thinks will improve the way we play, so paying a bit over the odds is worth it, rather than paying a bargain price for a different player who isn't quite what Jose wants.
Perisic is not worth more than 20m euros and we should be paying anything more than 25m for him. Paying 50m is simply stupid.
 
Quando parla, Zvonimir Boban fa sempre discutere. Sia nella sua ormai vecchia veste di commentatore televisivo che come segretario della Fifa e stretto collaboratore del presidente Gianni Infantino. Intervistato dalla Gazzetta dello Sport, infatti, l'ex trequartista - tra le altre - del Milan si è soffermato su un calciatore croato come lui, Ivan Perisic: "Se mi piace Perisic? È stato il migliore dell'Inter degli ultimi due anni. Corre, supera il terzino, è un uomo serissimo. Solo che, venendo dai Balcani, gli affibbiano l'etichetta di discontinuo: lo dicevano anche di me".

'NON CAPISCONO DI CALCIO' - Poi, Boban lancia una stoccata al club nerazzurro: "Non riesco a capire come si faccia a discutere di lui o perché lo dovrebbero vendere. Se capiscono così poco di calcio... va beh, è la vita. Ma io penso che sarebbe assurdo se lo vendessero perché pensano che tatticamente o tecnicamente non può stare in questa squadra. Lo troverei davvero molto, molto strano. ".

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Boban on Perisic "He's the best Inter's player in the past 2 years. He runs like a full back and he's extremely professional. Unfortunately he comes from the Balkans therefore they criticize him for being inconsistent. I know the feeling as they pretty much said the same about me"

"I can't understand how can anyone misjudge him or why he's going to be sold. Its evident that they don't understand football. Oh well that's life. Those who think that Inter should sell him because he doesn't fit in their system (due to tactics or lack of technique) are being absurd
Great quotes by our legendary captain.

Given the amount of absolute drivel that's beings written here I may come to the point of mentioning Kuyt every time Ivan has a good game, if he comes. :)
 
Great quotes by our legendary captain.

Given the amount of absolute drivel that's beings written here I may come to the point of mentioning Kuyt every time Ivan has a good game, if he comes. :)

would you mind if I do the same? :angel:
 
Great quotes by our legendary captain.

Given the amount of absolute drivel that's beings written here I may come to the point of mentioning Kuyt every time Ivan has a good game, if he comes. :)
Same Boban that claimed Rui Costa was better than Zidane?
 
Same Boban that claimed Rui Costa was better than Zidane?

Zidane was a magnificent player but he lacked consistency, at least during his time in Italy. Juventus ended better off without him because of that.


I wouldn't say that Costa was a better player. However I wouldn't swap Zidane to our own Scholesy in a million years.
 
@cheeky_backheel

Boban said this - "È l'unico, assieme a Zidane, in grado di cambiare volto a una squadra. Anzi più di Zidane".
[Boban su #RuiCosta, che oggi compie 45 anni]

He's the only player (for Costa) with Zidane who can change the way a team plays (to the better). Actually he's better then Zidane to do so.
 
Boban said this - "È l'unico, assieme a Zidane, in grado di cambiare volto a una squadra. Anzi più di Zidane".
[Boban su #RuiCosta, che oggi compie 45 anni]

He's the only player (for Costa) with Zidane who can change the way a team plays (to the better). Actually he's better then Zidane to do so.[/QUOTE]
and also said Costa was a more complete player.

Both claims were false. He was biased cos Costa played for Milan and Zidane for Juve.

Edit: Think comments were made prior to Costa signing for Milan
 
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Boban said this - "È l'unico, assieme a Zidane, in grado di cambiare volto a una squadra. Anzi più di Zidane".
[Boban su #RuiCosta, che oggi compie 45 anni]

He's the only player (for Costa) with Zidane who can change the way a team plays (to the better). Actually he's better then Zidane to do so.
and also said Costa was a more complete player.

Both claims were false. He was biased cos Costa played for Milan and Zidane for Juve.[/QUOTE]

that's the only quote I found (and I remember). I disagree with him on that however its hardly that outrageous either. Zidane was far from being a perfect player. As said I'd take Scholes over him any time.
 
Good post but think thats harsh.
Martial has his uses and his strengths, tracking back and getting involved in the play deeper isn't one of them. Same with Rashford.
I hope the pair of them get their chances starting as the #9 till zlatan gets back, next season.
Or if they do start on the left then they're pushed high up the pitch on the shoulder of the last defender and given a job they're suited for.

This guy provides something different. People are welcome to criticise the quality of the player but we do need someone like him.
Giving Pogba a bit of extra support and reliability could free him up to push forward more too.

I'd probably be inclined to look for a full back who could do the job
but I dont have any particular objections to giving shaw one more year to get over his injury and recover his form

Didn't mean to be harsh on him. I was just pointing that imo Martial isn't a strict out and out winger who keep hugging the flank to provide width and cross. He's of a different type of players that loves to cut inside on the next defender, try to pass him then shoot or cross. Jose wanted him to stick on the left flank only but he didn't succeed because it's not of his attributes. He's not an out and out winger.

That's also imo why he kept using Rashford on the flank. Sura Zlatan taking the number 9 position is a reason, but another reason is Rashford was the only player in our attacking front line that applied to Jose's instructions to keep hugging the flank all the time, give some sort of width. It wasn't perfect, though, as it wasn't his natural position but better than the other options.
 
Perisic is not worth more than 20m euros and we should be paying anything more than 25m for him. Paying 50m is simply stupid.
I think I'll put my faith in Mourinho's opinion of him ahead of yours, if it's all the same.
 
I think I'll put my faith in Mourinho's opinion of him ahead of yours, if it's all the same.
If he turns out like Willian at Chelsea it won't be a bad signing. The fee however and the other fees touted around however...
 
This 'saga' has been going on too long. I'm afraid there's something in it, and we'll be the laughing stock of the transfer window.
 
I actually wouldn't mind having a decent, experienced left winger as backup, but not for £45 fecking million.

£20 million MAX. WTF at the price.
 
If he turns out like Willian at Chelsea it won't be a bad signing. The fee however and the other fees touted around however...
why do so many people still care about the fees? We have the money. So what if we pay over the odds for the players, if the outcome is having all the right players in place for the start of the season? Would people honestly prefer us to have a weaker team and a few extra quid in the bank come August?
 
Think we can all agree that he's not a world beater, but the bottom line is we desperately need a solid and effective winger, and he fits the bill. I'd rather see Perisic on the wings next season instead of Jesse "local lad who runs a lot" Lingard.
 
If it turns out to be say 52m Euro for the total package (including wages) as in journalism's sensationalist phrase 'in a deal worth'... then it would seem reasonable. Personally though, I'm waiting on official announcements before believing anything.
 
why do so many people still care about the fees? We have the money. So what if we pay over the odds for the players, if the outcome is having all the right players in place for the start of the season? Would people honestly prefer us to have a weaker team and a few extra quid in the bank come August?

Sometimes the price matters to a player's mindset and thus ability to perform. Everyone will be comparing him to Hazard, Sanchez or Bernardo Silva. Is he as good? I don't know. At 28, he can't use the 'potential' excuse either. He has to come in and be a world beater.

Not everyone has the mentality to brush off media expectations of a £45 million player, some players do crack straightaway. If he cracks, it's £45 million wasted.
 
why do so many people still care about the fees? We have the money. So what if we pay over the odds for the players, if the outcome is having all the right players in place for the start of the season? Would people honestly prefer us to have a weaker team and a few extra quid in the bank come August?

@spiriticon has already answered but to add - with that fee in mind the pressure would be immense to deliver(as well as being 28 years old) and fans/media would expect results straight away. Failing to shine from the off he'll easily be labelled worst buy of the season, fail and so forth which can get in the players head..
 
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