Ivan Perisic

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An Irish Red said:
You've changed my mind with that wonderful analysis. Fifty million for Perisic would be a great deal after all.
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What kinda response do you want after claiming Ashley Young is better than Perisic? Have you even seen Perisic play?

I have limited posts in the main forum, but tbh if that's the type of shite people are gonna come out with, it's not even worth me getting into a debate.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
Young was a two time PFA team of the year member and had some double digit assist seasons at Aston Villa.
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Which is a million years ago,

Perisic is running the show now at Inter, he just recently came off a MOTM performance in Udinese where he completley dominated the match. He has good stats now, not 6 years ago, he had a very good euros, I have never seen Young have a very good game for England.

I have been following Perisic since his time at Brugge, I'am not going to say he is worldclass but he is a very good player and he would work quite well in the type of football that Mourinho likes to play. He is better than Martial has been this season, he is much better than Lingard and he is loads better than Young. He is perfectly 2-footed, he can play on both sides, he is a good crosser, intelligent player, good technique, experienced and he will work his balls off for Mourinho. Is he worth €52m, no he probably isn't but he is a player that can improve us saying he isn't any better than Young is just bullshit.

I also don't know many winger available who can improve us, sure I'd want someone like Dembele but that isn't happening, nor is signing someone like Bale or Sanchez. Bernardo has gone to City. There is Willian but he apparently prefers to stay at Chelsea. You have Costa but he will also cost the same or more as Perisic and I think Mourinho prefers someone with the workrate off Perisic more.
 
haram said:
Seriously, some of you have no idea what you're talking about.



I what way is he 'Dirk Kuyt'? Is it because he works hard?
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Because he's so average, everyone is wondering why anyone would have him. Once there, he will be liked for his hard work.
So , yes.
 
An Irish Red said:
I didn't claim that. I said that I don't think Perisic is any better than Young; meaning that they are on a similar level of talent. Different thing altogether.
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Well Perisic is miles better, so it's still a clueless statement.

Sjaakmeoff said:
Because he's so average, everyone is wondering why anyone would have him. Once there, he will be liked for his hard work.
So , yes.
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So let's look past any of his actual abilities, and label him 'hard working', and then compare him to Kuyt. Right.
 
An Irish Red said:
We had plenty of work rate and mobility last year with Lingard and Rashford and our attack was still poor. We need serious quality; the type that Sanchez, Hazard, Bale et al has.

He doesn't have that quality. If we had a good attack I might view it differently but I can't see it as anything other than adding an average player, at an exorbitant price, to an already faltering attack.
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We don't need the type, we need them. My point is the quality you are talking about is not as broad as you think. You've literally named the players and the ones you haven't named already play for a big team.

I said very clearly he would provide end product. Our attack was poor because we had no end product. Whether that be not finishing chances or messing up the final ball.
 
Mainoldo said:
Young was quality at the Villa to be fair. He just made the step up like Perisic would be doing.
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Yea compare playing for Villa to playing for Dortmund and Inter...

Sure Perisic has not made a step up yet in his career :wenger:

Perisic is twice the player Young is. He can actually cross a ball and score a goal.
 
An Irish Red said:
Martial and Mkhitaryan are both much better players than he is. I honestly don't think he's any better than Ashley Young either.

Would be a crazy signing (even more so at such an exorbitant price).
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Now you're just going over the top. He's better than what we have but he's not one of the best. That's the problem most are finding with this transfer.

We qualified for Champions league and by signing these sort of players instead from the top shelf, it will be a missed opportunity.

Unless Jose thinks we need a very big revamp so we can't afford spending huge amount of money on every position we need to improve.
 
An Irish Red said:
I didn't claim that. I said that I don't think Perisic is any better than Young; meaning that they are on a similar level of talent. Different thing altogether.
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Pretty ridiculous statement considering Young's goal return since Fergie, tbf. Just checked his stats and its even worse than I thought; 8 in his first season and then 6.. Yes 6 since then.
 
Mainoldo said:
We don't need the type, we need them. My point is the quality you are talking about is not as broad as you think. You've literally named the players and the ones you haven't named already play for a big team.
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Ideally that's who we need but even if we don't get players from that bracket there's still bound to be better out there for that outlay.

Especially when we could just switch Mkhitaryan to the left and look for a right winger if we can't find a good left sided player.

Kill 'em all said:
We qualified for Champions league and by signing these sort of players instead from the top shelf, it will be a missed opportunity.
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That's the point. Our attack is weak as anything and I don't think Perisic would improve it at all, others disagree. I don't understand how but there we are.
 
Here are some other players from Serie A that I doubt would cost as much

Name Goal/Assist (Perisic 11/8)
Mertens 28/9
Insigne 18/9
keita 16/3
Salah 15/11
Callejon 14/12
Falque 12/8
Perisic 11/8
Ljajic 10/8
Perotti 8/6
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Here are some other players from Serie A that I doubt would cost as much

Name Goal/Assist (Perisic 11/8)
Mertens 28/9
Insigne 18/9
keita 16/3
Salah 15/11
Callejon 14/12
Falque 12/8
Perisic 11/8
Ljajic 10/8
Perotti 8/6
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Put our name attached to them i bet they do cost the same money. Get Perotti and Ljajic out of that list.
 
notcool said:
They got to 6th in the PL. Inter are 7th in Serie A, a much weaker league.
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How can you compare the 2017 Serie A with the 2008 Premier League? There's 9 years difference.
 
JB08 said:
How can you compare the 2017 Serie A with the 2008 Premier League? There's 9 years difference.
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I don't know. How can I compare Thierry Henry with Olivier Giroud? The latter joined Arsenal years after the former did.
 
Strange that we're not interested in Keita Balde instead. Cheaper, younger and just as good or better.
 
notcool said:
I don't know. How can I compare Thierry Henry with Olivier Giroud? The latter joined Arsenal years after the former did.
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Because you can see the impact they had on the teams they played in, what they accomplished, number of goals/assists, watch videos of them both playing, etc.? You can't do that for a league now, let alone 9 years apart. It's why there is such a debate about the 'best league in the world', it's not quantifiable.
 
JB08 said:
Because you can see the impact they had on the teams they played in, what they accomplished, number of goals/assists, watch videos of them both playing, etc.? You can't do that for a league now, let alone 9 years apart. It's why there is such a debate about the 'best league in the world', it's not quantifiable.
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I think you missed the irony in his post. Also you don't just need the the things you list to compare players - it's pretty obvious who is the better player without stats
 
JB08 said:
Because you can see the impact they had on the teams they played in, what they accomplished, number of goals/assists, watch videos of them both playing, etc.? You can't do that for a league now, let alone 9 years apart. It's why there is such a debate about the 'best league in the world', it's not quantifiable.
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English teams were much better in Europe then than Italian teams are now. That's how I quantify it.
 
The red panther said:
Yea compare playing for Villa to playing for Dortmund and Inter...

Sure Perisic has not made a step up yet in his career :wenger:

Perisic is twice the player Young is. He can actually cross a ball and score a goal.
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Inter is only a shell of its former self and Perisic was hardly setting the world on fire at Dortmund.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Strange that we're not interested in Keita Balde instead. Cheaper, younger and just as good or better.
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Idk, mou wants a genuine wide player? Keita is like martial. And idk that he's cheaper

Anyways..this made a lot of sense, in a way, when it looked like you were getting griezmann. Now...
 
notcool said:
English teams were much better in Europe then than Italian teams are now. That's how I quantify it.
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I don't think we'll agree on this one then!

Coxy said:
I think you missed the irony in his post. Also you don't just need the the things you list to compare players - it's pretty obvious who is the better player without stats
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Yeah, I definitely did :lol:
 
Someone should remind some of the clowns on here of Mourinho's record as a manager. Its pathetic.
 
I wouldn't want Perisic at £30 mil never mind fecking £45 mil, we could have signed Bruma who looks a very good winger for a third of that.
 
I completely trust Mourinho when it comes to two things: single-game tactics and signing players.

If Mou thinks Perisic is worth the money, then I don't doubt it for a second.
 
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