I highly doubt this part,perisic is at his best inconsistent with his crosses, valencia is even worse. Its amazing how so many people are now for this transfer. He is a croatian ashley young. City bought one of the best up and coming talent at 50mn, we will buy an average 28 year old for 52mn.
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I don't mind Perisic at all. The Udinese clip proves that he could be a real dynamite in the wings and deliver exceptional crosses. My problem is with the quoted fee, which is atleast 10-12M higher than it should be. End of the day , it's not my money that's getting spent, but it's frustrating to see our club getting milked every single time. We need a DOF as Woody is not great at this.
He seems like a sensible player to go for.
We could do with a bit of stardust but theres no ready made world class players available.
So having a bit of patience, covering a few gaps in the squad and giving time to the prospects we already have just seems preferable to spunking 100m on Ross Barkley or something.
He'd fill a gap in the squad and looks pretty good.
Having a good wide player on the left sounds great to me tbh.
Theres more sensible, easy upgrades we can make that aren't that sexy but will improve the team.
You have to give guys like pogba, mkhitariyan etc a chance to settle for a year.
Buy the defenders and defensive midfielders we need. Bring a bit of width to our team.
It'll go further than just randomly buying every player who had a good season
We could do with a bit of stardust but theres no ready made world class players available.
So having a bit of patience, covering a few gaps in the squad and giving time to the prospects we already have just seems preferable to spunking 100m on Ross Barkley or something.
He'd fill a gap in the squad and looks pretty good.
Having a good wide player on the left sounds great to me tbh.
Theres more sensible, easy upgrades we can make that aren't that sexy but will improve the team.
You have to give guys like pogba, mkhitariyan etc a chance to settle for a year.
Buy the defenders and defensive midfielders we need. Bring a bit of width to our team.
It'll go further than just randomly buying every player who had a good season
The notion that he is a Young-level player is laughable. He is an effective winger who has just had a productive season with Inter. His numbers would've been even better had Inter been slightly more clinical. Signing him with someone like a Lacazette or Lukaku is going to go a long way in sorting our goal-scoring issues; even though his finishing (goal output) might not be Neymar-level but his wing play and the width he offers will be a threat and help stretch defences.
He looks alright to me, enough to get us top 4 but not win the EPL or CL but babysteps, eh? Do think we will see Martial sold though which is not so good.
Managers can be wrong. We've had some really bad signings and better players sold over the last few years. Hopefully, I'm wrong, but I also think this seems a very average and strange signing considering his age, price and stats.
Young had some productive seasons at Aston Villa.
If he's anything like Young in his first year here, I'd be quite pleased.
Young was literally doing everything there. As a pure winger Perisic is better than Young has ever been. Perisic is quicker, stronger, two footed and not a one trick pony.
That's cause we're a massive club. Juventus would probably get him for about 30m but they would charge us 50m. Cause they know we have more money.
I definitely think he is a better winger.
He's definitely far better now, but Young was decent back in his Villa days and his first year here.
As for Perisic, if he can knock in 10 or so goals and do some damage on the wing, we'll be in good shape. Also, if Ibra returns having Perisic feeding him will increase his productivity.
Wikipedia is quicker than man utd.
Also this bit further down....
Manchester United
Perišić moved to Manchester United F.C. on 1 June 2017 for a reported fee of £52 million after agreeing on personal terms.
No source, so probably an exuberant fanboy.
Martial needs to improve a lot more than just his attitude such as his consistency, reliability from an individual and team stand point, decision making and final ball delivery.
A top quality 9 that United will need will cost more than 60 million pounds and I expect that the budget for a center forward is excluded from the other targets.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
That is frighteningly expensive. Thankfully it's only wiki and we wouldn't be foolish enough to pay that much...
I think the previous link was in Euros - so maybe about £40m
I'm sick about talking about the great player city got. The summer will end and we will still be talking about B.Silva. I don't give a feck about what and how they sign. Let's concentrate on our own business.
Actually we should, if we want to be in a title race it isn't going to be with everton or arsenal or southampton it will be with city, chelsea, tottenham and liverpool. It really matters who they sign as we will be competing against that quality of a player.
Aye, for all his faults in later years Young wasn't half bad when we signed him. Started out excellently and then tailed off a bit.
Buying the players that suits the manager style is what makes you win the league, not seeing what the other teams bought. Last season we bought Pogba, Zlatan and Mikhi, Chelsea bought Luiz, Alonso, Kante and Batshuayi. We won the market and they won the league.
We're going to have 1 total budget Mourinho has access to. The high cost of a quality 9 is exactly why I don't want us spending £30m + on Perisic.
€52m euro is still fecking insane.Inter gonna buy better player with that money .
It's likely we're the only club after him n Inter is forced to sell. This quoted price is just idiotic
It's likely we're the only club after him n Inter is forced to sell. This quoted price is just idiotic
52mln for a 28 yrs old late bloomer is wee too expensive. But if he delivers what he can for 2 season I would say the money well spent.
But so far it didn't happen with mikhi, mata and di Maria.
But so far it didn't happen with mikhi, mata and di Maria.
The fee is high and he is on the wrong side of 25 but got to feel for him. Probably going to take on the biggest challenge in his career so far and worked very hard to achieve this, but before you've even touched a ball the fans of your potential new club are already against you and already write you off, the same thing will happennas with Fellaini, scapegoating. Hope he can prove his worth earlier than his Belgian colleague, although I never think he'll be worth the fee, he can be an excellent player for us.
They won the league because they had a good team that was strengthened by the signings, we had an average team that still has a lot of holes in it even with those signings.
Also we need a rw but perisic is a lw how is that really helping the team and about buying what suits the manager he is your typical mourinho average work horse winger and mourinho's recent transfer record tells me that most of his such buys don't work out.
and that is the shocking part.
Average player, older player, smaller club, forced to sell, we are only club interested and still getting rinsed - WTF?
Its like we are on a mission to help Inter avoid FFP and build a title challenging team, all in one summer.
It isnt, as he is far from average, Chelsea being interested as well. They arent forced to sell too.
This is the Lynx gift set Christmas present of transfers.
Thanks Mum.
Thanks Mum.
He is as average as you can get at age 28, and Chelsea is only rumored to be interested with no follow up details of them making any sort of contact or offer.
Inter is forced to sell as they are under FFP sanctions and yet to meet their target of breaking even. Perisic is one of the few players with some value and they plan to sell him
I think based on last season he's definitely beyond average. He'd be in the top 10 players who played wide left regularly last season in europe.
However the price sounds very steep. For that kind of money surely we should be getting one of the top ones?
Would Insigne or Lemar cost more than that?
However the price sounds very steep. For that kind of money surely we should be getting one of the top ones?
Would Insigne or Lemar cost more than that?
He isnt average, he surely isnt as good as the likes of Hazard, Reus, Sanchez but is onna very Pedro-Willian level who have/had or prove their worth and effeciency when used in the right system. We need such a player and he fits Mourinho perfectly. Stop acting like we are signing Bolasie.
So as you said, Chelsea are interested, which you earlier declined.
They arent forced to sell, they want to use the Perisic money to sign James Rodriguez which shows they arent forced to sell due to financial circumstances. They prefer James and think he suits them better, if they dont want Perisic to go, he doesnt but then they probably cant get James.
Both Pedro and Willian are better than Perisic. The serie A is a slower game where Perisic's pace gives him more of an advantage than it would in the PL. Even Callejon, who is also average, is scoring 14 goals + 12 assists in Serie A at 30.
I said rumored Chelsea interest, there has been nothing to further substantiate such rumors, while there are comments about how much we are offering or have agreed. If Chelsea were genuinely interested, shouldn't there be some mention of how much Chelsea was offering?
Inter is forced to sell because their agreement with UEFA for FFP requires that they break even by June 30. (According to what I have read) Currently they are 30m euros short, and if they fail to meet the requirement face penalty of 7m or more plus transfer bans and squad size limits. To raise the needed 30m euros they need to sell one or more players and Peresic is the one chosen cos we are willing to cough up lots of money. What they buy subsequently, including their interest in Di Maria and James, will likely be taken into account against next financial year.
We need a LW more than a RW because in Jose plan, the one responsible for providing the width on the right is Valencia not the RW. It's not a disadvantage of players, it's because Jose wants the RW to join the midfield and give Valencia space to rush forward and cross. Mikhi, Mata and Lingard can do this job but on the other side, he wants the LW to stick on the flank to provide width, especially when playing a LB that is only concerned with defense behind that LW. He tried Martial in this job and he failed as the only thing he does on the flank is to try to beat the next defender till it fail. Martial style of play is suited to cutting inside, which isn't what Jose wants him to do especially when giving the RW instructions to cut inside and joint the midfield. This devoid us of any width bar Valencia.
If you are going to play with Jose's classical 4-2-3-1, then yeah signing a LW to provide width makes perfect sense for me more than RW. The debate is whether Perisic is good or not or what we can find a better replacements for him for the job Jose wants him to do on the left, but in the tactical point of view, we do need a LW that always provides width to the team and allows the LB to set back defensively as Jose wants, otherwise, we'll get stuck with all our players crowded in the midfield with r trying to cut inside with only Valenica as a flank player, and this gives us troubles against any parked buses.
Searching for such a player makes perfect sense, whatever Perisic is up to it or not, Jose thought he is up to it then let's see.
Mourinho does not expect either of his WF to provide width, which is why he typically plays them on the opposite foot. He expects both flank players to cut in towards the middle, while the full backs provide width. The difference is that one tends to be more of a goal threat i.e..WF/SS, while the other is more of a AM/creator.
At Madrid, CR7 was the goal threat while Di Maria was the AM. At Chelsea, Hazard was the SS with Schurle/Pedro etc as the goal scorers (this is reversed with Hazard+Willian).
I think the basis he built his RM side were somewhat different from what he built Chelsea on and what he's trying to do here. Yeah he implemented his counter attacking style there but we can't say it was built as the next Chelsea team he built on to win the league, he does has a fixed plan in his mind, but he can adopt and tweak things here and there in each club according to the set of players he gets at first. What I was talking in my post is what I guessed he wants to implement here from the part when we were playing good football this season.
I found a Perisic thread from 2016 and needless to say, most weren't impressed then either and the thread didn't even get past the first page: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ivan-perisic.418846/
It's true that PL players are faster but in the PL you also get more space and teams are tactically worse so that also could be a pleasant surprise, we are never going to be sure. I neither think Callejon is average but he also plays in a much better team fwiw.
Interest and putting an offer are far apart.
Interesting, but players can only get registered from the 1st of July going so I'm not sure if he would fall under their FFP this year. If so, we should decide to pay 30 million or wait until the 1st of July to feck them over. We should be the winners in that case.
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