Ivan Perisic

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Yeah but some caf experts think he's shite.
It's not so much that he's shite but it would just be such an uninspiring choice knowing the way Mourinho would want to deploy him. Signing Perisic might make sense if we had a world beater on the right but with our team as it is we need someone who will make the difference in the final third rather than the physical industrious type.
 
I wish I watched Mourinho closer than I did over the years, but isn't it his style to have a one hard working winger with one more "spectacular" winger?

Duff + Robben, Pandev + Eto'o, Wilian + Hazard?

If so, this makes sense I suppose.

Who's our spectacular winger supposed to be
 
It's not so much that he's shite but it would just be such an uninspiring choice knowing the way Mourinho would want to deploy him. Signing Perisic might make sense if we had a world beater on the right but with our team as it is we need someone who will make the difference in the final third rather than the physical industrious type.

Exactly, some can't seem to grasp that it's not just the mediocrity of the player that is bothering people, it's what he represents in terms of how we'll play.
 
Understood the top bit now.

As for the rest I'll say the same I said with LvG, he can feck off with his idea of football, if he can't respect the traditions of the club.
I agree, but we hired him saying he's a winner. Well, this is how he wins.

Hopefully, the idea is to first start winning, then gradually move to more expansive football. Perisic is a typical Willian signing, which is why I'm confident he'll be good.
 
I think we're being a little short sighted. The signing is underwhelming, sure, and the fee is feckin ridiculous, but we've seen what Jose can do to players who work for him in Herrera, Valencia etc. they seem to go up a level. Also, we signed lots of big names last season, but arguably our best bit of business was Bailly, who was relatively unknown. The name isn't always what's important.

The only thing I'm really frustrated about is the fee.
 
Hahaha drama queens living in their Monaco fantasies. Enjoy moaning while I look forward to some actual wing play. Get in Ivan!

Aye, I'd be happy enough with Martial and Perisic competing for the left wing spot next season. There's a nice contrast in styles there, and I still think Martial's got it in him to cement that spot for himself anyway, with Perisic as a good quality backup.
 
De Gea
Valencia Bailly Keane Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Belotti Perisic

What would you do if this was our starting line up on the first day of the season?
 
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De Gea
Valencia Bailly Keane Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Belotti Perisic

What would you do if this was our starting line up on the first day of the season?

I'd accept the fact that we are getting relegated and cry myself to sleep.
 
He's been very good the few times I've seen him, which has mostly been international games. I think he's a "Mourinho type" player. Pacy, physical, direct, and he's got a decent shot. I think he'd be a good signing.

What worries me are the reports that we're spending €50m on him. That's a very large amount for a player who'll be 30 within two seasons. And as good as he is, he's not exactly "elite", and I only think that signing a player who is 28 years old+ for that amount would be justifiable if said player was an absolute world beater.

Hopefully the reported fees are rubbish, and we won't end up paying anywhere near that much. And even if we do, it will only bother me if it means that less funds are available for other targets. It's not my money.
 
This would be an incredibly underwhelming signing. I'd rather we give Martial some serious game time than this.

Martial needs to earn his game time and if he beats out Perisic on merit, then good. If not, he needs to have a right look in the mirror. There will be plenty of matches for the players next year on weekends and Tuesdays/Wednesday evenings.
 
I agree, but we hired him saying he's a winner. Well, this is how he wins.

Hopefully, the idea is to first start winning, then gradually move to more expansive football. Perisic is a typical Willian signing, which is why I'm confident he'll be good.

Willian is one those players that made me hate his Chelsea 2.0 team, an effective but dull footballer IMO.

I think we're being a little short sighted. The signing is underwhelming, sure, and the fee is feckin ridiculous, but we've seen what Jose can do to players who work for him in Herrera, Valencia etc. they seem to go up a level. Also, we signed lots of big names last season, but arguably our best bit of business was Bailly, who was relatively unknown. The name isn't always what's important.

The only thing I'm really frustrated about is the fee.

All of those players are defensive and thrived under him due to his requirements of them being hard graft and work, that's fine for them as they are defenders, but the wing is a flair position, or at least it should be, and Perisic hasn't got any.

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Keane Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Belotti Perisic

What would you do if this was our starting line up on the first day of the season?

Remember that there's other things to do besides watch football? :lol:
 
Not gonna lie I've had to really convince myself to want him but I think he would now be perfect for an old Trafford pitch where we can put his wing play to good use. He does it really well for Croatia so we have to hope he does the same for us.

Now let's get a lethal finisher in and see what happens next.
 
Who's our spectacular winger supposed to be

Presumably Mkhitaryan at the moment. By spectacular I'm referring to the more attacking minded, direct style of play.
 
Anyone else feel like this is the sort of transfer you'd expect Stoke or West Ham to announce for about 20m Euros and you go "Oh" and move on?

I don't think I've ever been as underwhelmed.
 
Presumably Mkhitaryan at the moment. By spectacular I'm referring to the more attacking minded, direct style of play.

Mkhi is a fine player, but he doesn't hold a candle to Hazard/Robben/Eto'o. If you're going with an alignment where you have a grafter on one side and a creative outlet on the other, that creative outlet needs to be someone who can consistently beat their man like those 3...Mkhi isn't going to give you that.

I just wonder how Perisic would fare if he faced the same 1v2, 1v3 situations that Martial did last year on the left...especially if we don't sign a stronger fullback than Darmian.
 
This is Perisic's last game of the season against Udinese. It basically gives you a rounded insight into the player as you can see his workrate, ability to take on players and instinct in front of goal. However he doesn't have the best finishing which is evidenced by the failed one on one.

I think a striker with great movement like a Chicharito would thrive off him.

The closest buy to Chicharito right now that is realistic is probably Belotti as his movement is outstanding most of the time.

 
Mkhi is a fine player, but he doesn't hold a candle to Hazard/Robben/Eto'o. If you're going with an alignment where you have a grafter on one side and a creative outlet on the other, that creative outlet needs to be someone who can consistently beat their man like those 3...Mkhi isn't going to give you that.

I just wonder how Perisic would fare if he faced the same 1v2, 1v3 situations that Martial did last year on the left...especially if we don't sign a stronger fullback than Darmian.
Perisic has had to play with shittier fullbacks so he should be fine.
 
That looks like a good side tbh.
Exactly. Belotti, Perisic and Fabinho would improve us a lot. Fabinho allows Pogba to be more effective, Belotti is a goalscorer which is what we've been missing and Perisic provides the much necessary width that we desperately need.
Our defense has been very good so the addition of Keane would make it tighter.

Not saying we'll be transformed overnight, start playing attractive football and hammer teams 4-0 5-0, but we will win majority of the games that we drew last season, which would see us challenge for the title, which should be our objective next season.
 
De Gea
Valencia Bailly Keane Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Belotti Perisic

What would you do if this was our starting line up on the first day of the season?
Not the worst thing ever but the lack of incisive creativity apart from Micky will be a problem, and he needs to be #10 to make him more effective
 
I haven't seen much of him but he seems pacy, hardworking, skillful, genuinely two footed, good crosser of the ball, and he appears to be an actual left winger - a position we desperately need a player in. This seems like it'd be a good transfer. The price does seem very high as of right now but I doubt if it goes through we'll actually pay the quoted prices.
 
De Gea
Valencia Bailly Keane Darmian
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Belotti Perisic

What would you do if this was our starting line up on the first day of the season?
If that line-up would disappoint you, I'm afraid you're going to be very depressed when next season kicks off.
 
I have no issue with Perisic coming or his fee. If we (Jose) really want these players then we have to pay.

However, for the quoted fee we are hearing about, our club can't get all jelly legged about Lukaku's price. If we are overpaying this window, overpay for the targets we need and make us PL contenders again.
 
Not the worst thing ever but the lack of incisive creativity apart from Micky will be a problem, and he needs to be #10 to make him more effective
Mkhi was best played as a RW for Dortmund and is his best position for us. Pogba would help provide more creativity and Perisic is creative himself.
 
Not apprehensive about this as before but the fee is ridiculous. Anything more than 30m euro will set a precedent which may hinder us in future transfers.

Even if he's a success with us, we'll probably have to reinforce the LW in 2 years again. The reported 52m euro on a player with little resale value and small shelf-life is madness.
 
It just sends a message out to every club that they can rinse us for even more than they thought if the fee does end up at over €50m.
 
Not apprehensive about this as before but the fee is ridiculous. Anything more than 30m euro will set a precedent which may hinder us in future transfers.

Even if he's a success with us, we'll probably have to reinforce the LW in 2 years again. The reported 52m euro on a player with little resale value and small shelf-life is madness.
Mourinho could see him as a Robben type for us. He can get older but if he maintains his level of fitness we should be fine.
 
Martial needs to earn his game time and if he beats out Perisic on merit, then good. If not, he needs to have a right look in the mirror. There will be plenty of matches for the players next year on weekends and Tuesdays/Wednesday evenings.

I agree Martial needs to improve his attitude but he's already a better player than Perisic and buying him to compete for minutes is a waste of money especially at the prices we've seen floated. I'd much rather we put 30+ million towards a top quality 9 or CB.
 
This is Perisic's last game of the season against Udinese. It basically gives you a rounded insight into the player as you can see his workrate, ability to take on players and instinct in front of goal. However he doesn't have the best finishing which is evidenced by the failed one on one.

I think a striker with great movement like a Chicharito would thrive off him.

The closest buy to Chicharito right now that is realistic is probably Belotti as his movement is outstanding most of the time.


Fair play to Perisic here, he's fecking destroyed Udinese single-handedly
 
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