Ivan Perisic

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I hope we're priced out for Perisic and we buy someone with more talent. Hard works great but hard work with talent is a different animal.
 
Not for me, the EPL is far more exciting to watch than any other league.

The cup final yesterday for example was a great game and given the fight for top 4 up to the final day, it's much more exciting than the other 1 or 2 horse race leagues.

Not really based on anything other than my opinion of course.

It's more competetive depth wise but the quality of football is poor in the PL IMO, unless my team are playing I find it a dull league.
 
I wouldn't want him just on the diacritics alone! :lol: Imagine typing in every matchday thread: Perišić this, Perišić that…
 
It's more competetive depth wise but the quality of football is poor in the PL IMO, unless my team are playing I find it a dull league.

It's simply because the teams aren't anywhere near as good as the Spanish teams. The World's best players play there, thus why the level is much higher.
 
If we pay 55 million for him it would be the most stupid transfer deal since liverpool paid 35 million for Andy fecking carrol. Inter are being cnuts and want to sell him to finance the james deal. We should ask them to do one and just move onto another target.
No wonder we have made contact with Lucas moura. We should let monaco fleece us for 50 million and sign Lemar.
 
It's simply because the teams aren't anywhere near as good as the Spanish teams. The World's best players play there, thus why the level is much higher.

It's not just Spain though, most weekends I watch Dortmund and Monaco for my entertainment as well as Real Madrid, and last season Gladbach Napoli were a cracking sides to watch..
 
It's fecking mental a player like Perisic would cost 55-60m euros. Inter bought him for 16m two years ago and on the back of one good season where they finished 7th now they want to sell him for 3/4 times that amount being also 28 years of age..:wenger:

Not that he sucks or anything, he's a good player, but 60m euros... Please.

The offer is 36 million £

55-60 Perisic + Brozovic
 
The quality of football was actually one of the biggest complaints on here in Ferguson's last few seasons.

we were very pragmatic when we wanted to be.

Remember City away in 2012?

He was pragmatic when he needed to be, and he was always like that. But when we played cannon fodder, when rarely stopped at 1-0. Moyes wasn't pragmatic, too little in fact - but LVG and Mourinho haven't exactly been attack focused.

City where we won 3-2 at the Etihad? Not too bad, and I think most would be happy with that. 0-0 at home to Stoke is a little depressing however.
 
Can see him on the left with 2CBs and Dier dropping in from DM to CB. Would free up Pogba and Herrera and allow 2 up top including Griezmann.

---Rashford - Belotti---
-----Griezmann-----
Perisic - Pogba - Herrera - Valencia
---Rojo - Dier - Bailly---

4 signings, 200m with sales?
 
Yeah, in Spain they work on the head to head system for titles and relegation which encourages the smaller teams to play football, on top of that getting relegated in Spain and Germany isn't the death threat it is in the PL due to the TV deals being different there.

Sounds like a much better approach to me!
 
Depends. Unless you get a very, very good deal, I'd say players like Sanchez and Aguero would be going for a minimum of £60m now.

Naturally every side needs flair players who can create/pass etc, but I'm not surprised Mourinho wants a workmanlike player with plenty of pace; his teams often rely on workrate and tactical ability as opposed to flair and excitement. Tends to be his style - when he was at Inter he was able to turn a striker like Eto'o into someone who worked hard for the team as a whole, instead of solely being a goalscorer.

Maybe if this was 2011.

What I'm saying is that Aguero and Sanchez were not fully fledged stars before they arrived in England and if we are spending that money I'd like to see that spent on someone on the verge of stardom not someone who clearly is never going to have the potential to be the star of the team.

If you're signing an established star of course it will be £70m plus but Perisic is a support player like a Pedro and shouldn't be costing £40m.
 
For tactical evolution and for a traditional wide man, I would not mind Perisic. But, at that price, you expect better quality than just another hard working donkey. And he is 28 years old and inconsistent at that?? That is very disappointing
Chelsea can have him if they wish so

He has a really punchable face as well
I thought I was the only one.
 
There is one thing this transfer thread us good for; it's stopped me turning my nose up at Lucas Moura.
 
I see Perisic as a hard working winger. An old fashion winger that would fit in well in the United of the old. He's more of a Beckham, a Ji Sung Park or a Giggs than a Martial, Januzaj or a Depay

This potential transfer indicates to me that Mourinho perhaps is looking into converting to a 4-4-2, and get that second striker in.

So even if Perisic is not the offensive player we'd want - he might be a player that opens up for the possibility of a more offensive side.
 
His position is LW. In his whole career, he is used as a LM only 6 times. Those who are claiming him played as LWB next season is nothing short of fantasy FM.

Last season not a single time Inter used him as LWB when they played the 3 CB formation.

Anything more than 25m(even in these inflated market) for him is waste of money. The last thing we need is to overspend for average joes.

Being a winger his dribbling and crossing stats are one of the worst. They are not even his best characteristics. He averages 1.1 crossing and dribbling per game.

I would gladly pay 45m for Zaha than for him.
 
Hopefully Inter stick with what they supposedly want €55-60m. Cannot see us paying that.
 
Agreed but the PL is a money guzzling monster at this point so I doubt anything will change.

And it should not change, Defensive , Longballs ,Directness, Target man,Physical are also football tactics. The world may consider it low grade because its a antibiotic neutralizer to the so called Posession which europe is so obsessed with but it is football tactics as well and must stay in EPL, Its makes Epl what Epl is.
 
There are a few 'football Einsteins' as Jose would say in here. The thread should be renamed 'Ivan the terrible' according to some. I think he would be a great addition to the team. He's hard, skillful and can offer something new. I trust Jose completely, they can't all be galactico signings. He's always stood out when I watched Croatia. Let's see the full picture of signings and give them a chance. This place has got crazy since Bernardo Silva joined city. The expectations are so high after last summer, most won't be satisfied.
 
Those who are claiming him played as LWB next season is nothing short of fantasy FM.

Our best performance this season came with Ashley young as a lwb against champions chelsea. Against a 3 man defense a Wingback system works best for the balance.
 
And it should not change, Defensive , Longballs ,Directness, Target man,Physical are also football tactics. The world may consider it low grade because its a antibiotic neutralizer to the so called Posession which europe is so obsessed with.

I never mentioned posession football, neither Monaco or Dortmund play posession football.
 
Rather Nani back, it's not that Perisic is a bad player, there are just a lot more better wingers out there, especially for the price quoted..
 
Our best performance this season came with Ashley young as a lwb against champions chelsea. Against a 3 man defense a Wingback system works best for the balance.
I have absolutely nothing to say to anyone who is claiming that Chelsea match as a barometer for the future. We played Phil Jones in CM for Real Madrid match. Did we plan our team next season based on that. Take whatever from this example.
 
I have absolutely nothing to say to anyone who is claiming that Chelsea match as a barometer for the future. We played Phil Jones in CM for Real Madrid match. Did we plan our team next season based on that. Take whatever from this example.

Its about being fluid enough to counter different systems tactics and Philosophies in the league.
 
Yeah Jose and woodie can't communicate if needed. If only someone would invent a device that you could carry with you and would enable you to talk to each other from almost anyplace in the world.
That's not what I meant. I am saying Jose probably doesn't care about the price and just wants Perisic regardless. I can see us overpaying because of that. It's not as if we've not overpaid for players before.

For what it's worth I think this will go through, and it will be a good signing. Mourinho is probably one of the best in the world when it comes to buying players.
 
Can see him on the left with 2CBs and Dier dropping in from DM to CB. Would free up Pogba and Herrera and allow 2 up top including Griezmann.

---Rashford - Belotti---
-----Griezmann-----
Perisic - Pogba - Herrera - Valencia
---Rojo - Dier - Bailly---

4 signings, 200m with sales?

I would love a formation like that, would solve alot of our problems

We just don't have a squad to play 4-3-3
 
Morata is only 60 million. Inter junk is priced at 55 million ? If we push this, we are really in a scam mode.

Why don't we scout Korean players and find someone like Son ? the price may be only 10-15 million. Or why don't we scout France Ligue, lots of technical pacey player from African descendants also with the work rate like this Perisic.

I don't get any point of 55 million for 28 years failured. 55 million ? The world of football is really really crazy.
 
€60 million for Perisic :lol:

Let's hope Woody is not stupid enough to give in to their demands, although Mourinho constantly saying everything is in Woody hands in these interviews doesn't help. :nervous:
 
There are a few 'football Einsteins' as Jose would say in here. The thread should be renamed 'Ivan the terrible' according to some. I think he would be a great addition to the team. He's hard, skillful and can offer something new. I trust Jose completely, they can't all be galactico signings. He's always stood out when I watched Croatia. Let's see the full picture of signings and give them a chance. This place has got crazy since Bernardo Silva joined city. The expectations are so high after last summer, most won't be satisfied.

:lol: that would be a pretty good name for the thread
 
Remember when we looked at Pedro last year?

"Pedro? He's not good enough for us"
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"Pedro rejected us for Chelsea - embarrassing"
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"Why weren't we in for Pedro? He's really good for Chelsea"
 
Uiiii
Utterly deflating transfer. So there's a chance he might actually do well here.

Was thinking the same. If the rumours are true he might be one of those surprisingly goo fits.

The amount of times we sign players and think "wow great" and they underwhelmed us or we're out right gash. But that does not necessarily mean that he will be any good.
 
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