Ivan Perisic

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His position is LW. In his whole career, he is used as a LM only 6 times. Those who are claiming him played as LWB next season is nothing short of fantasy FM.

Last season not a single time Inter used him as LWB when they played the 3 CB formation.

Anything more than 25m(even in these inflated market) for him is waste of money. The last thing we need is to overspend for average joes.

Being a winger his dribbling and crossing stats are one of the worst. They are not even his best characteristics. He averages 1.1 crossing and dribbling per game.

I would gladly pay 45m for Zaha than for him.

Not that I am trying to argue, but if Chelsea want him also where would they fit him? Hazard is playing as a LF and Pedro and Willian are the RFs. Yes, Chelsea are going to play in CL starting next year, but I don't see him fit the LF description that Hazard fulfills and executes at the current Chelsea formation. I haven't watched him much other than a few YouTube videos (which usually show the best dribbles, assists, goals and moments of a player) and his best moments don't seem that great or effective for a forward who needs to have a better end product.
So I am too inclined to think that he could be converted into wing back if Chelsea do get him. However that valuation from Inter is ridiculous.
 
Honestly the only issue here is his age and the price being relatively high for that age. Type of player he is is exactly what we need though. Pace, good dribbler, a proper winger and can play on either side, can put in good crosses, but also has a good shot on him so can score goals. Hes generally better for croatia then for his club teams, but I think he would improve us quite a bit just because of the type of player he is. We need a proper winger with pace desperately, and there isnt a single one available really, so you have to pay a bit more for a good one like perisic, while anything better wouldnt leave for united.

And its not a case of comparing him to bernardo. We need a perisic, a bernardo would be pointless considering who we have at the club.
 
Not that I am trying to argue, but if Chelsea want him also where would they fit him? Hazard is playing as a LF and Pedro and Willian are the RFs. Yes, Chelsea are going to play in CL starting next year, but I don't see him fit the LF description that Hazard fulfills and executes at the current Chelsea formation. I haven't watched him much other than a few YouTube videos (which usually show the best dribbles, assists, goals and moments of a player) and his best moments don't seem that great or effective for a forward who needs to have a better end product.
So I am too inclined to think that he could be converted into wing back if Chelsea do get him. However that valuation from Inter is ridiculous.
As you say, they have both Pedro and Willian on the right but only really Hazard on the left. Maybe they want someone to take the pressure off Hazard on that side given the extra games they'll have next season. Makes sense to me.
 
looking at this video I am gonna think that Jose wants 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 next year as a main formation, with him as a left wing back, while Valencia will be on the opposite wing, but with more defensive duties.

This formation will suit both Griezmann and Rashford (or new #9), as well as Pogba.

This could/should work in terms of turning the draws into wins. Underwhelming to face any top side though, very lightweight. Could get shot of Martial for Griezmann and play a three man midfield with Pogba having less key defensive duties.

3-5-2-United-formation-tactics.png


Darmian would suddenly be very handy to rotate Rojo/Bailly. Young can be backup for Perisic/Valencia.

A few things stick out like sore thumbs:

1) We would have way too many AM types
2) We really lack firepower (the upside is in this setup you don't necessarily need this elusive complete all-rounder upfront)
3) I'm happy with Valencia's output starting from fullback and overlapping, but can't see him bossing the flank all by himself.
4) New Guy is crucial and I'm buggered if I know a good realistic candidate for it.
 
Ok, well I think it should to prevent the likes of Allardyce and Pulis turning the game into a boring slog.

No, it Makes the title race fascinating and more challenging. The same slog ends up beating the top Posession based sides like liverpool like last year.
 
No, it Makes the title race fascinating and more challenging. The same slog ends up beating the top Posession based sides like liverpool like last year.

I'm talking about entertainment, I find nothing entertaining about any Pulis or Allardyce type of team, the PL is full of garbage like that.
 


I've seen no evidence of this whatsoever. I looked back at all his goals and highlights in the last 2 seasons and the only devastating thing I could see was his lack of balance and touch. The ball seems to trip him up when he tries to dribble in traffic or cut back.

Not seen enough of his crossing to comment on it as seems to be missing from his highlights
 
Not that I am trying to argue, but if Chelsea want him also where would they fit him? Hazard is playing as a LF and Pedro and Willian are the RFs. Yes, Chelsea are going to play in CL starting next year, but I don't see him fit the LF description that Hazard fulfills and executes at the current Chelsea formation. I haven't watched him much other than a few YouTube videos (which usually show the best dribbles, assists, goals and moments of a player) and his best moments don't seem that great or effective for a forward who needs to have a better end product.
So I am too inclined to think that he could be converted into wing back if Chelsea do get him. However that valuation from Inter is ridiculous.

I don't think Chelsea is in for him. Chelsea's transfer strategy are the best in England. They are playing every thing right in transfers from buying youth and loaning them out, buying players in good age and with ROI if they are to sell them incase it is not working out. Also buy players in their peak only if the price is right.

They will gazump us only if his fee is reasonable. They got pedro for 19m. If the fee was 30+m they would have allowed us to have him.
 
The only thing worse than using him as an auxiliary wing back would be using him as an actual wing back. It's a terrible idea.
 
I don't think Chelsea is in for him. Chelsea's transfer strategy are the best in England. They are playing every thing right in transfers from buying youth and loaning them out, buying players in good age and with ROI if they are to sell them incase it is not working out. Also buy players in their peak only if the price is right.

They will gazump us only if his fee is reasonable. They got pedro for 19m. If the fee was 30m they would have allowed us to have him.
Funny thing is, there's a video called Perišić, welcome to Chelsea from a year ago. :lol:
 
Dont know what the fuss is about here. He's a brilliant player. Type of wide player we desperately needed for a long time.
 
This could/should work in terms of turning the draws into wins. Underwhelming to face any top side though, very lightweight. Could get shot of Martial for Griezmann and play a three man midfield with Pogba having less key defensive duties.

3-5-2-United-formation-tactics.png


Darmian would suddenly be very handy to rotate Rojo/Bailly. Young can be backup for Perisic/Valencia.

A few things stick out like sore thumbs:

1) We would have way too many AM types
2) We really lack firepower (the upside is in this setup you don't necessarily need this elusive complete all-rounder upfront)
3) I'm happy with Valencia's output starting from fullback and overlapping, but can't see him bossing the flank all by himself.
4) New Guy is crucial and I'm buggered if I know a good realistic candidate for it.
I was just thinking about that formation as well earlier and it might work if we get Perisic in. "New Guy" in defence could be Eric Dier who could easily step up into the defensive midfield when we have the ball, allowing Pogba to roam further up. I'd also put Griezmann alongside Rashford (instead of Martial), and put Micky in that attacking midfield role.
 
Funny thing is, there's a video called Perišić, welcome to Chelsea from a year ago. :lol:
Did they buy him for inflated fee. I meant that unless the fee is reasonable, they wont get anywhere near him.
It may be difficult for United fans to accept it. They are a much better run football club now. That is the reason I believe that they wont go near him for inflated fee.
 
Honestly the only issue here is his age and the price being relatively high for that age. Type of player he is is exactly what we need though. Pace, good dribbler, a proper winger and can play on either side, can put in good crosses, but also has a good shot on him so can score goals. Hes generally better for croatia then for his club teams, but I think he would improve us quite a bit just because of the type of player he is. We need a proper winger with pace desperately, and there isnt a single one available really, so you have to pay a bit more for a good one like perisic, while anything better wouldnt leave for united.

And its not a case of comparing him to bernardo. We need a perisic, a bernardo would be pointless considering who we have at the club.

Exactly my sentiments.

He's not a teenage Brazilian/ Portuguese/ Spanish/ French/ Argentinian or other fancy nationality with a trendy name and 89 YouTube compilation vids therefore he must be shit and overpriced. YouTube videos > scouts.
 
Honestly the only issue here is his age and the price being relatively high for that age. Type of player he is is exactly what we need though. Pace, good dribbler, a proper winger and can play on either side, can put in good crosses, but also has a good shot on him so can score goals. Hes generally better for croatia then for his club teams, but I think he would improve us quite a bit just because of the type of player he is. We need a proper winger with pace desperately, and there isnt a single one available really, so you have to pay a bit more for a good one like perisic, while anything better wouldnt leave for united.

And its not a case of comparing him to bernardo. We need a perisic, a bernardo would be pointless considering who we have at the club.

He is also a bit inconsistent, but generally do agree with all this.

Can see why Mourinho is after him.
 
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Was thinking the same. If the rumours are true he might be one of those surprisingly goo fits.

The amount of times we sign players and think "wow great" and they underwhelmed us or we're out right gash. But that does not necessarily mean that he will be any good.

Hence, why we shouldn't by any means overpay silly money for him, either as transfer fee or wages. Last thing we need is more deadwood we can't shift out because the player is on high wages.
 
I've seen no evidence of this whatsoever. I looked back at all his goals and highlights in the last 2 seasons and the only devastating thing I could see was his lack of balance and touch. The ball seems to trip him up when he tries to dribble in traffic or cut back.

Not seen enough of his crossing to comment on it as seems to be missing from his highlights
People are praising his dribbling here but I seem to miss that completely. To me he isn't a great dribbler by any means, his crossing seems quite poor as well each time I have watched him. Not claiming he is a bad player but I refuse to believe there aren't better options available than a 29 year old hard working winger.
 
Did they buy him for inflated fee. I meant that unless the fee is reasonable, they wont get anywhere near him.
It may be difficult for United fans to accept it. They are a much better run football club now. That is the reason I believe that they wont go near him for inflated fee.
I don't think they're really that much better run.

We won't go near the inflated fee too.
 
Mourinho is a do the job first purchase type of manager. He rarely bought the fancy player most fm manager would want. But most of his purchases often do the job required.
And a lot of them don't. Specially in his second spell at Chelsea, most of his targets were underwhelming and didn't work out. My guess is he doesn't like to steam the boat and threaten the players already in. We're all thinking this summer might work out like the last, with four spot on buys, but I'm truly afraid it won't. We have at least 6 positions to improve and it won't be with Cuadrado, Schürrle or Salah type of buys.
 
FM, Youtube or him being Croatian have feck all to do with why many are not liking this potential buy.
 
As per MEN- Perisic is not close to signing.

Contrary to today’s headlines sources at United say that a move for Ivan Perisic is not close.

Sky Sports have been reporting that United would pay in excess of £36m for the 28-year-old midfielder.

The Croatian international is currently at Inter Milan and reports say that PSG are also keen to sign the 28-year-old.



:D:drool:
 
I was just thinking about that formation as well earlier and it might work if we get Perisic in. "New Guy" in defence could be Eric Dier who could easily step up into the defensive midfield when we have the ball, allowing Pogba to roam further up. I'd also put Griezmann alongside Rashford (instead of Martial), and put Micky in that attacking midfield role.

We would have to try out the different AMs. My guess would be in big games that's Pogba there with two CMs. Against weaker opposition, camped in their half, I'd expect Mata to be better than Mkhi. It is in a back and forth game that you can toss a coin as to whether Mkhi should be there or Griezmann, with Martial upfront instead.

Since I'd expect a new striker and Rashford rotating a fair bit, I would expect one of Martial/Mkhi to go.

Don't think this is what we are going for though. It makes sense if we are to build a side around our best players, but Mourinho typically picks the players for his tactics.
 
This thread is going to end up in classics. I can feel it in my bones.
 
I don't think he's good enough, not enough flair and pace, doesn't have that cutting edge that other stars offer and won't sell enough shirts to justify his fee.

I've never seen him play btw
 
Honestly the only issue here is his age and the price being relatively high for that age. Type of player he is is exactly what we need though. Pace, good dribbler, a proper winger and can play on either side, can put in good crosses, but also has a good shot on him so can score goals. Hes generally better for croatia then for his club teams, but I think he would improve us quite a bit just because of the type of player he is. We need a proper winger with pace desperately, and there isnt a single one available really, so you have to pay a bit more for a good one like perisic, while anything better wouldnt leave for united.

And its not a case of comparing him to bernardo. We need a perisic, a bernardo would be pointless considering who we have at the club.
Good post.

Seems not many on caf have actually seen him play, yet are making a judgment on him being a shit player as he's not a big name flavour of the month muppet signing they craved for.
 
And a lot of them don't. Specially in his second spell at Chelsea, most of his targets were underwhelming and didn't work out. My guess is he doesn't like to steam the boat and threaten the players already in. We're all thinking this summer might work out like the last, with four spot on buys, but I'm truly afraid it won't. We have at least 6 positions to improve and it won't be with Cuadrado, Schürrle or Salah type of buys.

He has more hits than miss compared to most manager.
 
I don't think he's good enough, not enough flair and pace, doesn't have that cutting edge that other stars offer and won't sell enough shirts to justify his fee.

I've never seen him play btw
Hahaha, good one.
 
I wouldn't mind Perisic.

Not for the fee the stingy Iti's are demanding though.
 
The reaction here is worse than I recall when we signed Ashley Young.

At that time the following was the case:
1) we were a much better team
2) we were looking for value in the market
3) our manager preferred PL targets meaning the cafe's foreign wet dreams rarely materialized

Considering number 2 and 3 aren't the case now, let's just collect ourselves and trust in Jose's planning and Woodward's penchant for a splash. We'll get that galactico or two this summer, just be patient.
 
Dortmund paid 5m euros for him, Wolfsburg paid 8m euros for him, then Inter bought him for 16m euros, and then United will go and pay more than 40m euros for him now that he is almost 30 year old with no resale value, and probably double his wages. I wouldn't mind any of that if he was great player, but he will probably end up as rotation option for a club that has no great wingers to begin with. Story of this club for the last 5 years. And people wonder why we aren't improving.
 
Chelsea also interested apparently. The plot thickens...
Pretty sure chelsea is thrown in the mix just to get us to pay up quickly. Inter's strategy is to make us pat 50 million for Perisic and then buy Jamez for the same. I much rather would buy Jamez.
 
I like him. Think hes a cracking player and hes a actual winger.
 
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