Ivan Perisic

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This is a juve fan on Twitter (obviously he wouldn't rate inter players if they weren't good)



There are many quotes from Inter fans who seem to be upset at him being sold. But hey your imaginary inter fans would be right im sure


The imaginary ones that were posted in here.
 
Of course he's better than Lingard, much better. For the prices being talked about and considering his age, he'd be expensive but I don't see any better options in the market.

Inter were actually pretty good to start the season and he was great then too. He performs very well for Croatia too.
For the rumored price we could buy Lemar or Carrasco.
 
For the rumored price we could buy Lemar or Carrasco.

The latter isn't available and has a £87m buyout clause. So good luck with that.

Paying that much for Griezmann is fair enough. But Atletico Madrid are not a tin pot club that are going to let players go cheaply or without a fight.
 
There were plenty of others that didn't, just read back through the thread.

I read his thread on forza inter and most fans agree that only reason they should sell him is because they need the money and ideally they need to sell candreva.

If you are mentioning the guy who mentioned he is the next goran pandev then he was called out on it there itself.
 
Silva got only 11 goals and 10 assists in 60 matches in an inferior league to EPL. He's terrible transfer for City then.

David Silva signed when he was 24 in 2010. Thats 7 years of a top player, possibly one of the best in the world in his position and he still has a few years in him. He also cost City £24m. A bargain even in 2010.

Perisic, if the rumours are true, will sign for close to £40m. He is 28 years old, and naturally in a 2 or 3 years, will be past his best and we'll have to start looking for another replacement again. While Bernardo Silva (22 now) will be approaching his peak.

I understand you are saying we shouldn't always believe the statistics, but you only take that risk when the price and age are on your side. In this case they aren't. Its just another example of UTD over paying for average players.
 
David Silva signed when he was 24 in 2010. Thats 7 years of a top player, possibly one of the best in the world in his position and he still has a few years in him. He also cost City £24m. A bargain even in 2010.

Perisic, if the rumours are true, will sign for close to £40m. He is 28 years old, and naturally in a 2 or 3 years, will be past his best and we'll have to start looking for another replacement again. While Bernardo Silva (22 now) will be approaching his peak.

I understand you are saying we shouldn't always believe the statistics, but you only take that risk when the price and age are on your side. In this case they aren't. Its just another example of UTD over paying for average players.
He is talking about Bernardo, not David.
 
Seems to be a consistent, reliable honest winger who will give us a further much needed injection of pace and width.

We've been downright poor at using width this season simply because we don't have the players that will do what this guy does.

I'm pleased to see Mourinho has a very good plan in place, he clearly wants to change our style of play and formation, which is good.

Excited to see how he lines up our strongest side next season with these 4 additions
 
David Silva signed when he was 24 in 2010. Thats 7 years of a top player, possibly one of the best in the world in his position and he still has a few years in him. He also cost City £24m. A bargain even in 2010.

Perisic, if the rumours are true, will sign for close to £40m. He is 28 years old, and naturally in a 2 or 3 years, will be past his best and we'll have to start looking for another replacement again. While Bernardo Silva (22 now) will be approaching his peak.

I understand you are saying we shouldn't always believe the statistics, but you only take that risk when the price and age are on your side. In this case they aren't. Its just another example of UTD over paying for average players.

I meant B.Silva, not David.

Why are we so obsessed with age ? We signed RVP when he was 29 years old and gave us one good season from 3 does that makes him terrible signing ? Definitely not. His only good season with us is far more important than 10 seasons with a young talent IMO.

If Perisic becomes a part of a league winning team next season, I won't care if he doesn't give us anything else.
 
Do you guys think Martial will be gone if Jose is in for Perisic?
 
Do you guys think Martial will be gone if Jose is in for Perisic?

Nope. Will be a sub, though.

He's just not the LW Jose wants in 4-2-3-1 and that has nothing to do with defensive duties if you think that what I meant.
 
Some thoughts from Forza Inter forums:

I would sell him in a heartbeat for that amount of money. But let's put Perisic aside, is there even a player who performed well for us throughout the season other than Handa and Icardi? Even these two had lots of bad games. Today we see that our team is full of shit players today but not so long ago we were writing their names in our fantasy lineups, isnt it strange? It's been the same for years too.

Not saying our players are superstars, but some players got let down by all the mess that happened with the coach changing and shit, and the lack of a proper preseason, and the overall team performance. And of course there are some players who are shit in nature. To me Perisic belongs to the first group. No one can deny how good he was last season and how he performed at the Euros. This season too he managed to win us games only by himself.

That being said, he had a lot of those off games, missing out easy chances which also lead us to losing points like Crotone and Torino. Even performance wise he got way worse and slower. But I still wouldnt say he is a bad player, not even close, imo he will do well in his next club and I'm sure of that. He's got everything, all he was missing is a little confidence, consistency and A GOOD TEAM with clear and organized startegy. There's a reason PSG and MU want him for 55-60m.

PS: examples of players who I regard as good players but got let down by the team/coach are Joao Mario, Banega and Gagliardini. Brozo is a good player too, but he let himself down with his shitty attitude.

I have to disagree on Perisic.

Perisic has an overall bad players around him, and that must contribute to his low forms. Due to his position, he's mostly connecting with baddies like Nagatomo, Ansaldi, Kondogbia, etc. I can see his frustration when they fail. Any player would drop in form and make some non-sense decisions around players that he doesn't trust. It's the same situation with Miranda when coupled with dumbass Murillo or Medel.

Also the team's inconsistency, breakdowns, and awful change of managers play a big part too.

I think that Perisic, J.Mario, Miranda, Handanovic, Gagliardini, Icardi and Banega are very smart players and have the potential when utilized correctly to deliver much more in better teams like Napoli and Juve. The bad players around them and Inter's instability bring them down constantly

Exactly, I wasn't a big fan to begin with. He misses a lot of good chances but I'd give him a pass since he's not our main striker and he works pretty damn hard but his passing especially in crucial moments of the attack is feckin abysmal and it tilts me hard. That period you speak of made me think I was wrong about him but he's been piss poor for a long time

this thread.. maybe you dont know it but we are fecked without Perisic. Even if we get Di Maria, he needs first to adapt. With Candreva and Icardi we have the shittiest forward ever. And im not saying Icardi is shit but he will never change is playing style with the same formation and the same shit players.

And this hate against Perisic is really sad because he was and will be again one of the few players that we can call a Top Player. One of the less player that really run for while in this club. He is really a hard working player. What i would do for selling a Icardi to make money only to get more players like him. I dont know why everyone wants more pussy players, we need leaders and experience.

So what, you are hating aginst perisic, the man who has run himself into the ground for us mutlitple times since the start of the year. There is a very select list of people who i wouldnt get rid of, people who are willing to destroy themselves for this club, physically and emotionally, Perisic isnt one of them. We need to focus on players who arent giving their all and that list may be most of the team but it does not include Perisic or Icardi. I get the feeling they really care which is what we really need,

Dont hate him for the rest of the teams lack of ability.

Reading the Man Utd fan forum at https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ivan-....427582/page-6

They have not really an idea about Ivan. But they hope Josè makes him a consistent quality player.
And I do believe the same - he will make him a very important player for them - 45 m is a steal for them.

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considering our best player can't do anything but run left and cross in the first post, we need new best players.

You're overreacting. He has done much more than that and certainly is a very talented and decesive player, that will be very fecking useful to a team that is not in shambles.

People here expect him to do what? He's not Messi. Let me put this way: in a situation where we would've been able to buy 20 players and revamp the whole team, Perisic one of the few players that could've easily stayed and kept very very useful.

Very good, fast, hardworking winger. Sad to see him gone for only 45 millions.

Sounds like a Jose player alright. Lets see him in a United shirt and see how he does before criticising Jose and Perisic.
 
You would think Jose murdered a puppy not bid on a player. This is the kinda shit sane posters have to put up with.

I'm not impressed by perisic and think we can do better. I fear for you if such a post troubles your sanity.
 
There were plenty of others that didn't, just read back through the thread.

I have read through the thread. There are people not happy with him but that's mainly to do with the whole Inter team. 95% agree that he's a great player.
 
I haven't seen him enough except for few Croatia matches so can't comment on his talent. But spending close to 50 who is soon to be 29 (who is not exactly pulling trees in serie A) seems to be bit dump and short sighted.

Put this way, if this was done by liverpool we would be laughing at them.

Exactly. He isn't mufc quality, especially for that price.
 
Nope. Will be a sub, though.

He's just not the LW Jose wants in 4-2-3-1 and that has nothing to do with defensive duties if you think that what I meant.
I don't think Martial will be ok to back Perisic.
 
I have read through the thread. There are people not happy with him but that's mainly to do with the whole Inter team. 95% agree that he's a great player.

Blaming the team for his poor final ball and crappy pass percentage is pretty ridiculous, Inter are a crap team, for them he might be as good as it gets.
 
I meant B.Silva, not David.

Why are we so obsessed with age ? We signed RVP when he was 29 years old and gave us one good season from 3 does that makes him terrible signing ? Definitely not. His only good season with us is far more important than 10 seasons with a young talent IMO.

If Perisic becomes a part of a league winning team next season, I won't care if he doesn't give us anything else.

Buying young quality means you don't need to worry about a certain position for many years. Rooney for example, was our main striker for a long time, we never even thought about another striker. It also means if you buy young, players have a long time to build an understanding with each other. Our best team from the late 90s and early 2000s was built on a core group of players who grew up together.

Perisic will come and be gone in a few years and it all starts again. I think City are playing the transfer game much better than we are in my opinion. Guardiola is thinking long term, where as Jose wants to do a smash and grab, get all the glory, then leave in a few years for someone else to clean up the mess.

All this is before we even start talking about why we always pay 30-50% more on players. If Perisic went anywhere else I promise you Inter wouldn't get a penny over 30m euros.
 
Buying young quality means you don't need to worry about a certain position for many years. Rooney for example, was our main striker for a long time, we never even thought about another striker. It also means if you buy young, players have a long time to build an understanding with each other. Our best team from the late 90s and early 2000s was built on a core group of players who grew up together.

Perisic will come and be gone in a few years and it all starts again. I think City are playing the transfer game much better than we are in my opinion. Guardiola is thinking long term, where as Jose wants to do a smash and grab, get all the glory, then leave in a few years for someone else to clean up the mess.

All this is before we even start talking about why we always pay 30-50% more on players. If Perisic went anywhere else I promise you Inter wouldn't get a penny over 30m euros.

We have Rashford, Martial, Bailly and Pogba who are all young and will give some years coming. We don't need any more young talents that are still developing for years before they deliver, especially not at our current state.

We need players who are already in their peak, players who are going to perform immediately. That means signing players at the age of 25-28 years this market, not under 24 or above 30 for me.

With Rashford and Martial already present as Young talents in our forward, why do we need more inconsistent young talents ?
 
We have Rashford, Martial, Bailly and Pogba who are all young and will give some years coming. We don't need any more young talents that are still developing for years before they deliver, especially not at our current state.

We need players who are already in their peak, players who are going to perform immediately. That means signing players at the age of 25-28 years this market, not under 24 or above 30 for me.

With Rashford and Martial already present as Young talents in our forward, why do we need more inconsistent young talents ?
You sign great players at 25-28yr e.g. Griezmann and not overpay 2x for an average player that was not even the best player on a crappy midtable Inter team. Whats next - 100m for Barkley?
 
You sign great players at 25-28yr e.g. Griezmann and not overpay 2x for an average player that was not even the best player on a crappy midtable Inter team. Whats next - 100m for Barkley?

Look, I didn't watch Perisic at all except for some videos on YouTube so I don't really know much of him. I'm talking about the obsession with young age in general, not just in this case.

And who said Perisic will prevent Griezmann from coming ?
 
We have Rashford, Martial, Bailly and Pogba who are all young and will give some years coming. We don't need any more young talents that are still developing for years before they deliver, especially not at our current state.

We need players who are already in their peak, players who are going to perform immediately. That means signing players at the age of 25-28 years this market, not under 24 or above 30 for me.

With Rashford and Martial already present as Young talents in our forward, why do we need more inconsistent young talents ?

Why do you assume young equals inconsistent or unable to perform immediately? De Bruyne, Eriksen, Hazard, all purchased young, all made almost immediate impacts and are as good as any player in their late 20s.

If you spend wisely, you reap the rewards for a long time. City's new signing Jesus looks a great signing and is only 20. We need to stop burning money and build solid foundations for the next decade. No more temporary fixes.
 
Confusion between the two is going to happen a lot next season :D Bernardo is too long to write.

I'll say young Silva and old Silva then. :lol:
I'd rather call them BS and DS.

Nah, that won't work (Bullshit and Dipshit, as it turns out).

BSilva and DSilva then.
 
Perisic will come and be gone in a few years and it all starts again. I think City are playing the transfer game much better than we are in my opinion. Guardiola is thinking long term, where as Jose wants to do a smash and grab, get all the glory, then leave in a few years for someone else to clean up the mess.

I don't think this paints the right picture. Guardiola and Txiki are definitely thinking long-term, but I don't think Jose's looking for a smash and grab. This the role that Jose has been looking for his entire life...freedom and total control like he had at Inter at a club with financial strength and visibility like he had at Real. His number one priority is to succeed in the league or CL ASAP to help solidify his position here.
 
Seasoned international means zero, Milner is a seasoned international and I would never have wanted him anywhere near a United team. Experience is a crutch used to justify these kinds of players, Ashely Young is the same. Buying utter mediocrity for enormous fees isn't going to get us back on track any faster than giving young talents a chance.

"Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes."
 
Why do you assume young equals inconsistent or unable to perform immediately? De Bruyne, Eriksen, Hazard, all purchased young, all made almost immediate impacts and are as good as any player in their late 20s.

If you spend wisely, you reap the rewards for a long time. City's new signing Jesus looks a great signing and is only 20. We need to stop burning money and build solid foundations for the next decade. No more temporary fixes.

Yes, some young talents can perform immediately, some aren't. IMO it's a total gamble to build the full team on young talents as you will get both of these types. You need to have both good young talents and players at their prime to help these talents. You can't build a team of over 30 player but you can't also on 20 players, unless you are a club with zero pressure on it as Monaco.

We have some young talents already in the team so why add more ? We should be gunning for players at their prime already. Can't see the benefit of adding more youngsters to Rashford ,Martial and Pogba as if they aren't enough, especially in the current state of the club, which demands immediate success and pressure is everywhere on the manager and the team.
 
If I'm advising Martial , I would convince him to leave. Clearly, Mou does not rate him much and 2-3 years of being a sub player would kill him. Jose may leave in 3 years, Martial is 25 and nothing to show for.
 
Is there any other reliable source apart from PremiumSportHD which has confirmed this story citing its own sources?

I feel this is all just a rumor, maybe spread by Inter as they need to offload him.
 
Is there any other reliable source apart from PremiumSportHD which has confirmed this story citing its own sources?

I feel this is all just a rumor, maybe spread by Inter as they need to offload him.

Sky sports reported it.
 
Maybe the plan is to convert him into a leftback and he's our second choice target after Mendy? (who seems to be going to City)
 
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