Ivan Perisic

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Hmmm, not the biggest fan of this transfer. He's the type of wide player we should be looking at who can keep width (despite cutting in a lot to shoot) but surely we can get better. I've watched a bit of Inter this year because of Icardi/Banega and whilst he's a decent player, I believe there are better options.

I'm not writing him off if we do sign him as he is a decent player and José's typically in god form in his 2nd seasons, but it is a bit underwhelming. It's also hard to see him doing as well here as he has done at Inter due to playing in Serie A.
 
Varun said:
I'm all for the "trust the manager" line of thought but it really is disappointing if we're actually in for Perisic. Not just because I think he's average at best but also because of the "type" of player he is. Was hoping we'd move to a more attacking system but if we're signing the likes of Perisic to be first choice wingers, we're going to put more emphasis on defensive work rate and putting in a shift than actual quality with the ball. It's fine for squad players but if we're spending top bucks on a player in his late 20s for the first team, you gotta hope for better value for the buck.
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He's an old fashioned winger in terms of hugging the line more. However's he's not defensive minded. 10 goals and 10 assists in 41 games isn't defensive minded
 
devilish said:
I am saying that these sort of players aren't MUQ standard especially Fellaini whose the personification of anti football. No top quality side would try to bypass the midfield to hit a beanpole's head. We're not Stoke

We need better talent then that.
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We're not Stoke but we're not Real, Barça or Bayern either. Not even top four in our own league.

We need to start challenging for the league first and for that we need squad depth and a variety of options. That's what guys like Fellaini, Lingard will provide next season.

If you feel Perisic brings nothing different or doesn't solve any problems in our tactical structure, then those our valid arguments worth discussing. In my opinion, his level is certainly above Lingard and he can solve our left-wing problems without really being a threat to Martial's place in the squad.
 
SirMattBugsby said:
We're not Stoke but we're not Real, Barça or Bayern either. Not even top four in our own league.

We need to start challenging for the league first and for that we need squad depth and a variety of options. That's what guys like Fellaini, Lingard will provide next season.

If you feel Perisic brings nothing different or doesn't solve any problems in our tactical structure, then those our valid arguments worth discussing. In my opinion, his level is certainly above Lingard and he can solve our left-wing problems without really being a threat to Martial's place in the squad.
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We need to understand WHY we ended up in this silly situation and WHAT we need to do to return to our best. The former was a decline in talent were top quality players like Rio, Vidic, Evra, Ronaldo, Giggs and Scholes were being replaced with workhorses who were nowhere near to the talent of the of the former. As Scholes wisely said, something is very bad when the best CM at the club is in his mid 30s. What can we do to improve? We need to get rid of players who aren't good enough and replace them with top talent.

Having said that, while I think that signing Perisic for that fee is a mistake I dont feel comfortable putting him at par with Fellaini and Lingard.
 
Varun said:
I'm all for the "trust the manager" line of thought but it really is disappointing if we're actually in for Perisic. Not just because I think he's average at best but also because of the "type" of player he is. Was hoping we'd move to a more attacking system but if we're signing the likes of Perisic to be first choice wingers, we're going to put more emphasis on defensive work rate and putting in a shift than actual quality with the ball. It's fine for squad players but if we're spending top bucks on a player in his late 20s for the first team, you gotta hope for better value for the buck.
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Feel exactly the same but then I am not the guy who has won multiple trophies and recently led United to our most successful season post Sir Alex. I had hoped that we'd add more attacking flair like everyone else to solve the isssues that let us down in the league like you clearly do but maybe the manager still trusts Martial and Mkhi to come good!
Its still an underwhelming transfer that is excessively overpriced but what can we do?
 
Fair to assume that he's Mourinho first choice considering he went to Croatia to see their match and the rumors related to him have been going on since forever?
 
I've not watched a lot of perisic. From the posts I read, it looks like he works really hard for the team defensively and is average at best going forward (That's what I gather is the consensus). Is it possible we are looking to play him at LB? Is he good enough there with Martial infront of him ?
 
Varun said:
I'm all for the "trust the manager" line of thought but it really is disappointing if we're actually in for Perisic. Not just because I think he's average at best but also because of the "type" of player he is. Was hoping we'd move to a more attacking system but if we're signing the likes of Perisic to be first choice wingers, we're going to put more emphasis on defensive work rate and putting in a shift than actual quality with the ball. It's fine for squad players but if we're spending top bucks on a player in his late 20s for the first team, you gotta hope for better value for the buck.
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Well just looking at his stats, he seems to have got 10 goals and 7 assists in 30 starts(Inter's second highest goalscorer in their season), which is quite good. Since it seems we are genuinely interested in him, I checked him on whoscored etc and he's their second highest rated attacker after Icardi.
 
devilish said:
He's an old fashioned winger in terms of hugging the line more. However's he's not defensive minded. 10 goals and 10 assists in 41 games isn't defensive minded
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I'm not saying he's useless offensively. What I mean is, he isn't top drawer with the ball and our interest in him is more indicative of a workhorse like approach to our wing play. The rumoured fee for him is absolutely bonkers.
itso 7 said:
Feel exactly the same but then I am not the guy who has won multiple trophies and recently led United to our most successful season post Sir Alex. I had hoped that we'd add more attacking flair like everyone else to solve the isssues that let us down in the league like you clearly do but maybe the manager still trusts Martial and Mkhi to come good!
Its still an underwhelming transfer that is excessively overpriced but what can we do?
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Well, if he trusts Martial and Mkhi for the wide spots, I doubt we'd be paying the rumoured amounts for a guy in his late 20s. Will be bought as first choice if he's acquired at that price really but yeah, not much we can do but hope he excels if he's coming here.
 
KM said:
Fair to assume that he's Mourinho first choice considering he went to Croatia to see their match and the rumors related to him have been going on since forever?
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If that's the case he'll be pretty much our Willian. He'll be José's balancing act to the attack. I've only seen us linked with him the last day, though the thread was started in March.
Ijazz17 said:
I've not watched a lot of perisic. From the posts I read, it looks like he works really hard for the team defensively and is average at best going forward (That's what I gather is the consensus). Is it possible we are looking to play him at LB? Is he good enough there with Martial infront of him ?
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He's not that defensive, and I'm 99% sure he won't be used as LB. He's more attacking than made out to be. Though, after seeing Mandzukic used as pretty much a LWB in some games for Juve you never know!
 
KM said:
Well just looking at his stats, he seems to have got 10 goals and 7 assists in 30 starts(Inter's second highest goalscorer in their season), which is quite good. Since it seems we are genuinely interested in him, I checked him on whoscored etc and he's their second highest rated attacker after Icardi.
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I did the same thing yesterday. I like how they list the strengths and weaknesses of players. The only strength mentioned was aerial duels which is strange for a winger.
 
KM said:
Well just looking at his stats, he seems to have got 10 goals and 7 assists in 30 starts(Inter's second highest goalscorer in their season), which is quite good. Since it seems we are genuinely interested in him, I checked him on whoscored etc and he's their second highest rated attacker after Icardi.
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Yup, decent stats for a wide player especially in that Inter team. I guess I was just hoping for a shift towards more exciting players capable of more with the ball. He doesn't quite have that X factor.
 
Yagami said:
He's not that defensive, and I'm 99% sure he won't be used as LB. He's more attacking than made out to be. Though, after seeing Mandzukic used as pretty much a LWB in some games for Juve you never know!
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Thanks for the info. I would not actually be averse to him playing at LB, so long as Martial starts ahead of him. That could be a tasty left wing with both players offering width and great crosses into the box for our little Griezmann to tap into the goal.
 
abhayselvan said:
I did the same thing yesterday. I like how they list the strengths and weaknesses of players. The only strength mentioned was aerial duels which is strange for a winger.
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He doesn't have the name, nor the status, but he's very similar to Willian and Pedro in terms of overall quality. So I think that's a bit misleading if they've listed that as his only strength.
 
Inter will be playing tonight. So if he's not in the squad, there could be something in this as Inter wouldn't want any injury to happen in any case as we are talking about big money here. Let's hope he starts the game, at least that could be an indication it's all made up lies or something

For the record, i rather we take James off Madrid than sign this guy
 
Stacks said:
Miki has been underwhelming IMO. Cuadrado, Pedro, Salah and Schurle are some previous wingers signed by Jose who underwhelmed in his teams. I believe we need certainty if we want to win titles. Notice how the 2 times Chelsea won the title was when Hazard came out to play and tore the league up? Players like Perisic ain't gonna cut it I'm afraid. They are mere supporting cast.
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Miki basically won us the UEL so there is some success there. Nothing wrong with recruiting supporting cast players and who knows he could turn out to be really good for us.
 
I think if we pair him up with a LB like Mendy or a peak-Shaw it would be a nightmare for the other team to both defend and attack on that side of the pitch. He actually made Inter bearable to watch this season.

I don't think he is plain average either, and is of the same level as Willian and Sterling on the wings.
 
I've always been very impressed with him in tournaments for Croatia but his club career doesn't seem to match the potential he has shown for the national team.

He is exactly the type of player the squad lacks. A natural wide player willing to hug the touchline is ideal as United's attack can get very narrow. He is also two footed so can play either side and has the athleticism and pace to play in a counter attacking set up.

The quoted fee sounds far too high but if they can negotiate a decent price I think he would be an excellent addition to the squad.
 
KM said:
Fair to assume that he's Mourinho first choice considering he went to Croatia to see their match and the rumors related to him have been going on since forever?
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What if his comments then were simply the truth and he wasn't there for anyone specific? Just enjoying a few days off during the season.
 
Red Devil Rising said:
I'm sure devil may care was gutted we beat Ajax just because he didn't have a stick to then beat Mourinho with.
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No, i just think he wants to have a fair chance of United winning the league again and doing well in the CL. This summer every transfer needs to be right, starting with Perisic for that price is already killing any excitement, negatively speaking. We really have no excuses anymore, a 3rd or 4th place
Adisa said:
These are like those Vucinic rumours.
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If he had the same age playing for Roma, a bid would be imminent this summer
 
Watching some more videos, I started to feel that he looks like Ashley Young when we bought him from Villa. Don't know if this is good or bad tbh. :D
 
Macern said:
It's funny how you're responding as if I claimed that the numbers was some kind of proof. I feel sorry for you if you fail to see that they were meant simply as an attempt to use an objective argument
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You were literally using those 2 video games as some kind of proof that your argument was better.

SteveJ said:
Pfft. They're the twits who rated the great Johan Cruyff as a mere 89 overall. I wrote to my MP to complain about it.
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:lol:
 
Obviously, the Pro Evo Ratings Panel ended up as Liverpool's transfer committee.
 
Typical Mourinho transfer. Rather big and physical. High work rate and rather quick. Follow instructions to the beat and is not injury prone. Guess the trip to meet them in mars was for real. A done deal. His part of the list Ed has had since april. Obvious now.
 
This could be one of those none blockbuster type signings that turns out really well and gives balance to the team.

Yep typical Jose style signing so wouldn't be surprised. Tall, physical and hardworking. 36 million seems a lot of money for a 28 year old still.
 
Can safely say he's a B option. I hope the money is less.

Also one thing have noted in the market is when united sign a player the fee reported is tremendously and ridiculously high and when others do its mediocre.
 
el3mel said:
Watching some more videos, I started to feel that he looks like Ashley Young when we bought him from Villa. Don't know if this is good or bad tbh. :D
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Provides the right balance, that's it. Bad or good will be seen only after performances.
 
Perisic will certainly be an underwhelming signing but I trust Mourinho and whatever he has planned for him should he sign. I guess we will have a fairly inexperienced squad come August and he wants to bring in some solid 'winners' to allow a title challenge. I'll be happy with this signing as long as we bring in some exciting young prospect as well.
 
KM said:
Fair to assume that he's Mourinho first choice considering he went to Croatia to see their match and the rumors related to him have been going on since forever?
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That's right, I know nothing about this player, did a 5-min internet search and found brief reports of a meeting with the player and Mourinho in March and a meeting with our officials and the Inter sporting director in London on May 17. It suggests he's been lined up for a while and this hasn't just appeared out of the ether.
 
Those inter fans are saying similar to what I'm saying, surrounded by better players he could be really good and solve his inconsistency. Not to mention being managed by Mourinho.
 
I do feel bad for him. If he signs, every small mistake will be scrutinised and called out for, while after every good game, people will just say "good game, but still not United quality".

He can't win when people already have a preconceived notion that he's bad.
 
Varun said:
I'm all for the "trust the manager" line of thought but it really is disappointing if we're actually in for Perisic. Not just because I think he's average at best but also because of the "type" of player he is. Was hoping we'd move to a more attacking system but if we're signing the likes of Perisic to be first choice wingers, we're going to put more emphasis on defensive work rate and putting in a shift than actual quality with the ball. It's fine for squad players but if we're spending top bucks on a player in his late 20s for the first team, you gotta hope for better value for the buck.
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Can Safely say, He's a Option B
 
Clas Sified said:
I do feel bad for him. If he signs, every small mistake will be scrutinised and called out for, while after every good game, people will just say "good game, but still not United quality".

He can't win when people already have a preconceived notion that he's bad.
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The Fellaini effect.
 
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