Ivan Perisic

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Funny as @Ban says he isn't a workhorse. I'd trust a Croatians opinion on him than yours. Our wings consist of fecking Jese Lingard.

This is the signing we need to give Martial a kick up the him. Yes the fee is too much, but we rarely get value for money these days.

I'd be happy with this signing as long as we got two other signings in the attacking third.

It's funny that you take Bans word for it because he's Croatian, yet the Inter fans said exactly what I said about him as did several of the journos that chimed in, guess they don't know as much as Ban either who most likely only sees him every now and then when Croatia play.
 
Strangely enough, Ronaldo's made his 3rd Champions League final in 4 seasons since Mourinho's left now. It's probably more accurate to say, Mourinho was the one costing Madrid and Ronaldo trips to the Champions League finals.
and before Mourinho arrived, they couldnt get past the rnd of 16. Even with CR, the previous year they were eliminated by Lyon.

The current madrid squad is better than what Mourinho (and Ancelotti) had at his disposal, and they also had to contend against a dominant barcelona side, and yet they got to the semis 3x. This is the first time Madrid is winning a league title since Mourinho left and he won it against a Barcelona Pep. Most managers will do as well Zidane with the current madrid squad.
 
I really really hope these Perisic rumours aren't true. Close to 40 million pounds for a 28 year old, who in my opinion, isn't that great.

Last season he got 10 goals and 6 assists in a inferior league to the premiership. Those are hardly world class numbers. City are spending big and on quality young players. Bernardo Silva is miles better and cost £43m. He is 22 and can go for at least another 10 years. This better not be another summer of over paying for average players. Im sick of it!
 
They may be in the same position or they may be lower, but they wouldn't be that far apart, the fact is this signing for 45m fecking euros is a horrible deal as he will only get worse and not only that but being a good player for Inter isn't the standard we are aiming for.

There is literally no point to this signing. The only good thing is that he is a winger which we don't have but like I said Harrop is a winger and it would be better to give him a chance and put the 45m elsewhere or spend it on a QUALITY player to improve our team. Not keep it at the same average level.
I can agree with that. I personally do think we need a player like him who can come off the bench and provide something different to Martial and help our goalscoring issues, but certainly not at that price. I understand that the market is changing, but I think we can broker a much better deal than that.

Nevertheless, making an outlandish statement that Harrop would be just as good to justify your opinion is unnecessary.
 
He's 28 going to 29 half way through next season. Seems a lot of money for a player his age.

Definately. I have only really seen him regularly for Croatia. Always thought he was a good player to be honest, not as bad as people seem to be saying on here, though maybe his club form is different. He reminds me of Robben without the magic though, just a steady decent technical player, definately not the decisive type Mourinho wants. The money being mentioned, his age and all other things considered I would be surprised if there is any truth in this story
 
Its not special man. Inter are the 7th team in serie A. Its like signing Evertons winger.
Song bagged 14 goals and 6 assists. Zaha got 7 goals and 9 assists but at least Zaha has a high dribble rate. Antonio scored 9 league goals. Why don't we just sign Sigurdsson?
Just remember, Liverpool have Mane.

Cool, so do you think that Harrop can do the same?
 
A day or so after Mourinho piles pressure on Woodward to sign players, a story shows up out of nowhere on sky sports linking us to a player. I honestly think it's just Woodward sending out a threat as a bargaining tactic with his true target.

The same thing happened in summer 2015, we were very close to signing Gundogan according to sky sports, only for us to sign Schneiderlein and Schweinsteger instead in the same summer. Pretty confident this won't happen..
 
City appeared to have signed the next messi, We are signing the new Young. Average pace, average cross, works hard.
 
It's funny that you take Bans word for it because he's Croatian, yet the Inter fans said exactly what I said about him as did several of the journos that chimed in, guess they don't know as much as Ban either who most likely only sees him every now and then when Croatia play.

You said he's a workhorse and make him sound like Park Ji Sung. He's nothing like that.
 
They may be in the same position or they may be lower, but they wouldn't be that far apart, the fact is this signing for 45m fecking euros is a horrible deal as he will only get worse and not only that but being a good player for Inter isn't the standard we are aiming for.

There is literally no point to this signing. The only good thing is that he is a winger which we don't have but like I said Harrop is a winger and it would be better to give him a chance and put the 45m elsewhere or spend it on a QUALITY player to improve our team. Not keep it at the same average level.
If you think Harrop would have been our second-choice winger next season over a seasoned professional then I'm afraid you don't know much about our manager. Either that or you hoped he's going to be different from how he's always been which is wishful thinking.

Perisic will provide competition and cover to Martial. He's not world-class in his position but consistent with a good workrate and offers genuine width. His characteristics are something the team desperately needs under Mourinho, so I can't understand why some fans are so offended by this potential signing.

Also, don't get hung up on the transfer value. United's dealings are inflated for obvious reasons: 40 m Euros for us is equivalent to 25 m for other teams. It's something we should accept and not be too bothered about given the revenue we generate.
 
You said he's a workhorse and make him sound like Park Ji Sung. He's nothing like that.

He's exactly like that, he's not got any flair and he's a tall unit who works hard on his flank like a Willian type, exactly the kind of non flair wide man Jose has used regularly over the years.
 
In March, Jose Mourinho took advantage of an international break to take a trip to Croatia.


His arrival in the country was huge, with the media falling over themselves to cover every last detail. TV, radio, and the major newspapers all went with the theory Manchester United must be trying to sign a Croatia international.

Mourinho’s apparent Alan Carr disguise didn’t fool anyone.

24Sata newspaper gave it a full page, and said: ‘He landed at 11.15 in a private plane and went to a Zagreb hotel. The famous Jose Mourinho, the third time he came to Zagreb, this time because of Ivan Perisic.’

Mourinho speaking to Inter Milan’s Perisic ‘face to face’ was used as an indication that negotiations were at their ‘final stage’, because the Manchester United manager wouldn’t have bothered otherwise.

The price was estimated at €40-50m, and 24Sata said Perisic was ‘expected’ to move to Old Trafford.

It was soon picked up in Italy, where the price was pushed to €60m.

In April, Gazzetta dello Sport had a big feature saying Manchester United were prepared to pay that €60m fee, and get Mourinho his man, although it seemed a high price for a 28 year old.

Just over a week ago, Gazzetta reported that Manchester United aren’t actually prepared to pay €60m, but would rather negotiations started at around the €40m figure.

PSG were also credited with an interest, and given the advantage, because of Inter’s wish to get any of Marquinhos, Angel Di Maria, or Grzegorz Krychowiak as part of a deal.

Inter’s director of football Piero Ausilio was said to be about to fly to Paris and London for talks with the two interested clubs.

That nicely leads up to an article from Italy’s Premium Sport on Saturday, who say Perisic has chosen Manchester United. That decision dates back to the meeting in March, which again ties things together nicely.

The potential transfer fee is put at €45m plus bonus, which would fit in with the original Croatian claims, and the latest Gazzetta report on Manchester United wanting to start talks at €40m.

Perisic’s Manchester United rumour timeline also fits in with Mourinho’s recent Ed Woodward comments. When quizzed on signings, Mourinho revealed he told Woodward in March what he wanted, so there’d be no need for panic.

Ivan Perisic’s role for Inter Milan this season has been as an attacking midfielder on the left, and the Croatian has scored 10 goals and made seven assists.

Could it be possible that Lucas Moura is our plan B since we don't want to pay €50 million euro for Perisic.
 
He was one of the few Inter players who had a good season. He's very strong in transition, strong in one on one situations, very fast, athletic and has more goals in him than the rest of your attackers in the squad. If you intend on playing 4-4-2 with Griezmann + 1 upfront and Pogba in midfield you're 100% going to need wide players that are very useful defending too. That's the only way you can fit both Pogba and Griezmann in a team (without having to do what France did and play Pogba out of position or play Griezmann out wide/as a lone striker). Unless you want to see Young or Lingard there, Perisic is a very good option to have and very superior to those two. It's not a pretty signing but it's one that makes sense and it will bring balance to the team.
 
let's wait and see if there is any truth to this,but I think some people are really expecting griezmann,bale,James etc in one window...too unrealistic
 
He's exactly like that, he's not got any flair and he's a tall unit who works hard on his flank like a Willian type, exactly the kind of non flair wide man Jose has used regularly over the years.

William doesn't have any flair? So any winger that tracks back doesn't have any flair.

I'm guessing Robben and Ribery lost their flair when they were tracking back for Bayern in 12/13. I guess Eto lost his flair for Inter in 2010.
 
He was one of the few Inter players who had a good season. He's very strong in transition, strong in one on one situations, very fast, athletic and has more goals in him than the rest of your attackers in the squad. If you intend on playing 4-4-2 with Griezmann + 1 upfront and Pogba in midfield you're 100% going to need wide players that are very useful defending too. That's the only way you can fit both Pogba and Griezmann in a team (without having to do what France did and play Pogba out of position or play Griezmann out wide/as a lone striker). Unless you want to see Young or Lingard there, Perisic is a very good option to have and very superior to those two. It's not a pretty signing but it's one that makes sense and it will bring balance to the team.


Excellent post.
 
William doesn't have any flair? So any winger that tracks back doesn't have any flair.

I'm guessing Robben and Ribery lost their flair when they were tracking back for Bayern in 12/13. I guess Eto lost his flair for Inter in 2010.

No, I never said tracking back meant you have no flair, Willian hasn't got any though so I don't know why you are putting him in with Robben and Ribery who are two of the most exciting flair wingers of the last decade.
 
isn't this what we paid for Martial?

I think so, give or take a few million maybe and I assume there aren't as many addons as in the Martial deal but it does put into perspective what a truly terrible deal this would be. His age alone (28) should be enough to make this deal a relatively poor one.
 
No, I never said tracking back meant you have no flair, Willian hasn't got any though so I don't know why you are putting him in with Robben and Ribery who are two of the most exciting flair wingers of the last decade.

Well you need to watch William better. His end product is hit and miss, but he is capable of taking players out of the game with his dribbling. We currently lack that. We currently lack width.

I'm pretty sure you were having a go at the club when we wanted to sign Mane. Now you all over him.

I remember the Mane thread very well when we were linked with him for the first time and 90% of that thread was negative about him.
 
I was taking about this season. De Bruyne isn't a cm, Cesc couldn't even get in the team half the season and Silva was too inconsistent.

Nevertheless, Pogba and Alonso have overachieved in the EPL transitioning from the Seria A making your intial premise false.
Cesc played for the league champions, not 6th placed team 30 points behind. He still managed superior playmaking abilities in the little game time he had. he got 12 league assists! You say Silva was inconsistent, well you have to say the same about Pogba and still Silva produced better playmaking numbers. I didn't say he is better but you asked originally about who is a better playmaking midfielder and Silva does it better over the course of the season.

Also Pogba overachieved? 5 goals and 4 assists isn't overachieving for a player who is supposed to be your star attacking outlet. And of course all those big games where he made little effect.
 
Well you need to watch William better. His end product is hit and miss, but he is capable of taking players out of the game with his dribbling. We currently lack that. We currently lack width.

I'm pretty sure you were having a go at the club when we wanted to sign Mane. Now you all over him.

I remember the Mane thread very well when we were linked with him for the first time and 90% of that thread was negative about him.

I never wanted Mane and still don't, I've said nothing to the contrary in his thread, in fact once we weren't signing him I don't think I bothered commenting on him at all. I've seen plenty of Willian, he's a kick and run winger.
 
Looking at us last season, the one area that I felt could instantly transform us into a very good attacking side would be a direct, someone who plays wide left, who looks to get to the byline and cross the ball. As a bonus, someone in their late 20's, experienced, reliable, who Martial could play as an understudy to, take the pressure off of him and allow him to develop and grow into our first choice in 3-4 years.

I was hoping that person would have been maybe Bale? Perisic doesn't excite me. Whenever I have seen him, he has never struck me as a world class player but if he can be effective for us then I'll make my peace with that. Maybe it's a case of the whole being greater than the sum of it's parts.
 
what if it's actually another epl team that's after him,and press are linking him with united to go with the he snubs us line
 
I've only seen him play for Croatia and been impressed those few times.
I understand this signing won't have the muppets using up their hand lotion supplies, but I think he might offer the team some good and different qualities than we currently have at our disposal.

I trust Jose's judgement on this one.

On a side note...
I wonder if he could be used as a left back against teams parking the bus at OT? Overlapping full backs with a good cross are very useful against such oppositions. That's an area I feel we are seriously lacking at.
 
I always viewed him as a good player, not a great player. What I do like about him is that he appears to have two decent feet, happy on the left or right.

I'd be comfortable enough if we sign him, in all honesty. He isn't the most glamorous name or the flavour of the month, but crucially he seems to be a player who could play a role within Mourinho's preferred system.

Let's get this guy in early and give him a full pre-season to see what he can do.
 
He was one of the few Inter players who had a good season. He's very strong in transition, strong in one on one situations, very fast, athletic and has more goals in him than the rest of your attackers in the squad. If you intend on playing 4-4-2 with Griezmann + 1 upfront and Pogba in midfield you're 100% going to need wide players that are very useful defending too. That's the only way you can fit both Pogba and Griezmann in a team (without having to do what France did and play Pogba out of position or play Griezmann out wide/as a lone striker). Unless you want to see Young or Lingard there, Perisic is a very good option to have and very superior to those two. It's not a pretty signing but it's one that makes sense and it will bring balance to the team.

Great post mate. It's sad how fans of other clubs often talk more sense regarding our potential transfers while our own fans obsess over muppet signings and make snide remarks about anything else.
 
Cesc played for the league champions, not 6th placed team 30 points behind. He still managed superior playmaking abilities in the little game time he had. he got 12 league assists! You say Silva was inconsistent, well you have to say the same about Pogba and still Silva produced better playmaking numbers. I didn't say he is better but you asked originally about who is a better playmaking midfielder and Silva does it better over the course of the season.

Also Pogba overachieved? 5 goals and 4 assists isn't overachieving for a player who is supposed to be your star attacking outlet. And of course all those big games where he made little effect.
How does Fabregas's team's position in the league excuse the fact that he struggled to break into a team composed of Matic and Kante in midfield?
With regard to his numbers, he had players who could finish, none of our players could and Pogba's assist numbers suffered.
Silva plays much further up the pitch than Pogba so using numbers to justify your reasoning is moot.
Even though Pogba could have done better by his standards, I still would not take any other cm on our team because he still played better than everyone else in his respective position.
 
Great post mate. It's sad how fans of other clubs often talk more sense regarding our potential transfers while our own fans obsess over muppet signings and make snide remarks about anything else.

Except his entire post is based on the premise that we are going to play 4-4-2, something Jose has never used in his entire career.
 
He was one of the few Inter players who had a good season. He's very strong in transition, strong in one on one situations, very fast, athletic and has more goals in him than the rest of your attackers in the squad. If you intend on playing 4-4-2 with Griezmann + 1 upfront and Pogba in midfield you're 100% going to need wide players that are very useful defending too. That's the only way you can fit both Pogba and Griezmann in a team (without having to do what France did and play Pogba out of position or play Griezmann out wide/as a lone striker). Unless you want to see Young or Lingard there, Perisic is a very good option to have and very superior to those two. It's not a pretty signing but it's one that makes sense and it will bring balance to the team.
Perisic is not superior to lingard at his age and price. Inter are a crappy team and him being one of their better players does not equate to him being good enough for United. He has done nothing in the past 2 season to raise his value from the €19m Inter paid Wolfsburg
 
Watched some of this video :



And I can say he doesn't really look as bad as the people here made me think. Seeing what people here said I though I am going to see a paralyzed player who can do nothing.

His dribbling looked really good and seems he provides good width which we lacked. His crosses doesn't look that bad at all I must admit.

We lacked any width this season so if he's going to do what he is doing in the video then he's welcome for me. Martial isn't a LW in a 4-2-3-1 formation IMO anyway and that doesn't suit Jose. He doesn't provide width and his play is all about beating next defender. Jose needs other duties from his wings.

Preisic providing width on the left, with Griezmann playing as a RW that cuts inside to leave space for Valencia to rush forward, this will suit Jose's style perfectly I think.

Also 28 years old is good age. People should stop moaning about age as it's not the most important thing.
 
Perisic is not superior to lingard at his age and price. Inter are a crappy team and him being one of their better players does not equate to him being good enough for United. He has done nothing in the past 2 season to raise his value from the €19m Inter paid Wolfsburg

Of course he's better than Lingard, much better. For the prices being talked about and considering his age, he'd be expensive but I don't see any better options in the market.

Inter were actually pretty good to start the season and he was great then too. He performs very well for Croatia too.
 
How do clubs consistently keep making us pay 3x what a player's worth? How do they do it?

We walk into meetings like this:

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I really really hope these Perisic rumours aren't true. Close to 40 million pounds for a 28 year old, who in my opinion, isn't that great.

Last season he got 10 goals and 6 assists in a inferior league to the premiership. Those are hardly world class numbers.
City are spending big and on quality young players. Bernardo Silva is miles better and cost £43m. He is 22 and can go for at least another 10 years. This better not be another summer of over paying for average players. Im sick of it!

Silva got only 11 goals and 10 assists in 60 matches in an inferior league to EPL. He's terrible transfer for City then.
 
It's funny that you take Bans word for it because he's Croatian, yet the Inter fans said exactly what I said about him as did several of the journos that chimed in, guess they don't know as much as Ban either who most likely only sees him every now and then when Croatia play.

This is a juve fan on Twitter (obviously he wouldn't rate inter players if they weren't good)



There are many quotes from Inter fans who seem to be upset at him being sold. But hey your imaginary inter fans would be right im sure
 
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