Yes I agree he would bring something we don't have but he would be rotated and play when we need his skills. He will not be in first 11 week in week out as Pogba, Lukaku are and his skill set are not worth what Inter want for him so we decided against the deal.
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Well let's agree to disagree.
He would or should play every match that Lukaku would play because he complements him so well.
Also he would be important for us as he is also good on corners and free kicks.
If we bought him, I'am pretty sure he would start most games
Pogba and Lukaku both would benefit. Pogba's long raking balls would become even more of a threat with Perisic's movement and ability to run in behind.
What's even more hilarious is people that keep babbling on about crosses as if we'd just signed Andy Carroll. What people also don't seem to get is that regardless of what their role might be in the team they would be competing for the same position in the team. And Martial is quite simply more talented and already a better player than Perisic. In addition, we also have Rashford who's one of the best talents in the world and other wide players who can play on the left. We don't need 3/4 players for one position.
Now that this transfer is well and truly dead, the overrating of him and the underrating of players we actually have can stop.
And I guess some of you can stop pretending to like him now that Jose doesn't want him anymore
Why should he play every game with Lukaku? What's your thinking there?
Anyone can say what you've just wrote. Why is Martial better out wide than Perisic? Break their games down and enlighten us, hopefully that shouldn't be too difficult for you.What's even more hilarious is people that keep babbling on about crosses as if we'd just signed Andy Carroll. What people also don't seem to get is that regardless of what their role might be in the team they would be competing for the same position in the team. And Martial is quite simply more talented and already a better player than Perisic. In addition, we also have Rashford who's one of the best talents in the world and other wide players who can play on the left. We don't need 3/4 players for one position.
Now that this transfer is well and truly dead, the overrating of him and the underrating of players we actually have can stop.
And I guess some of you can stop pretending to like him now that Jose doesn't want him anymore
There's no thinking. If you'd never seen Perisic this thread would have done a good job of making him out to be the second coming of Beckham. Crosses!
It's same when people made him out to be the idea Wing Back even though you know he doesn't play there.
Chamberlain played wingback for Arsenal last season and was very good. You don't have to go and study a wingback position by attending a monastery. Playing 11v11 in training is more than sufficient for a wide player to learn and pick up instructions to play alittle deeper in a wingback role.
What happened here?
It's because it's blatantly obvious he's better. Better dribbler, quicker, fantastic finishing and still just 21. He won the best young player not too long back. Not to a United fan at least. If Jose actually plays him, he could become a lethal inside forward on the left.
You or anyone else have literally no idea how he'd do at wing back. Zero. To suggest he'd be the ideal Wing Back is utterly laughable.
Martial is not quicker than Perisic, you obviously haven't seen Perisic play if you think that. Martial is very good technically and may have the edge but it's not as big as you're making out to be. Perisic is two footed and has a better strike with either foot. Perisic has the ability to play either wing comfortably in comparison to any of our player's. It's very obvious he would provide a threat down the wings on either side due to his ambidextrous style which would be unique in our team.
Playing LWB isn't as difficult as you're making it sound, especially for a player that already plays on the wing. Playing 11v11 in training and following the manager's instructions is what is required. Arsenal's Chamberlain showed that last season.
After witnessing Martial going through a bit of a renaissance, would much rather us get a left back who could provide the width via overlapping now. Of course Perisic would have offered something different, but if Mou and co thought he was remotely worth it they'd have just chucked the money at Inter a la Chelsea with Matic.
It's weird isn't it?
The dude is being talked about by some like some game changing monster when in truth he isn't all that. People are going on about his crossing but as stats shows he's more miss than hit with his crosses. He has awful conversion rate with his crossing. Just because he loves spamming crosses we should suddenly overrate him, despite most of them being wasted.
And how many teams still play with traditional wingers anyways. Traditional wingers have become extinct and team much rather play with good attacking forward than some average traditional winger.
And as usual any player linked to us suddenly become overrated by the Caf. Most people didn't even know about Perisic nor would normally drool over his abilities but because we're linked to him some want to make him out into this top player that would win us the title. Never change Caf. never change.
Ironically, the moment he joins he'll get underrate.
Doesn't seem like Ed's style to be honest.
This sums it up. Bang average player, but because United is interested, he becomes awesome by default.
What's even more hilarious is people that keep babbling on about crosses as if we'd just signed Andy Carroll. What people also don't seem to get is that regardless of what their role might be in the team they would be competing for the same position in the team. And Martial is quite simply more talented and already a better player than Perisic. In addition, we also have Rashford who's one of the best talents in the world and other wide players who can play on the left. We don't need 3/4 players for one position.
Now that this transfer is well and truly dead, the overrating of him and the underrating of players we actually have can stop.
And I guess some of you can stop pretending to like him now that Jose doesn't want him anymore
He offers more than just crossing. It's his movement. It's his play style. It's his direct play. Martial is NOT a better winger than Perisic, PERIOD. Yes he is talented, no one ever said he wasn't. Even Mourinho picks Rashford ahead of Martial because Rashford is far more direct and explosive with his play.
I don't appreciate snide remarks about me 'pretending' to like Perisic. He's a very good player and I stick by that regardless of where he is playing next season. People think Mourinho had Martial on the bench for a bit of banter. fecking hilarious.
Maybe Jose wants something different and not necessarily an inside forward on the left! Have you thought about that?! And it's a reach to day Martial is quicker as well. Perisic has pace AND is two footed. He is a better WINGER than Martial, who is more of an inside forward.
He'd be a better wingback than Rashford or Martial I can say that. Those are both forwards. At least Perisic is a proper winger and is more familiar with tracking back. Dont know if Mourinho had the idea of playing him at LWB in certain games but that's neither here nor there. He claimed he wanted a wideman and I have explained WHY Mourinho wants him.
BANG AVERAGE yet looks easily on par with if not better than both Rakitic and Mandzukic at national level. Yeah, ok.
Pretty sure its dead.
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What is the latest on this move? Is it dead or could it happen on deadline day?
Martial is a better player on the left than Perisic is. PERIOD.
So true. People want him solely because "crosses and Lukaku". It's hilarious. And them some nonsense about wing backs.
You're wrong with both statements. You didn't even bother addressing the points I made. You don't know what you're talking about and I'm done here.
Its like that on here.
I would much rather keep the faith with two younger players except for an occasion where a genuinely world class talent becomes available. Perisic isn't world class. Never has been. It's not like you can't win anything with kids. This club has shown that before.
We have two talents that could eclipse Perisic's rather average career if we give them a chance. Along way of achieving that would be actually getting a left back that offers something past the 50m line.
People harp on and on about crosses but something Lukaku flourishes on is through balls because of his great pace. A
We don't have to bombard the box with missile crosses to be successful. If its width we need, a proper fullback can offer that.
As you mentioned, the best sides in the world hardly need conventional wingers. Great wide fowards can be really good for our side.
Interesting, McDonnell is one of the better Journos and is part of the Manchester press pack, along with Stone, Ducker, Ogden etc
Banned in the Twitter thread... which is weird always thought he was at least solid, hardly a wind up merchant.
I'm sure I read a post from @Raoul saying certain Journos were allowed?
Mullock, McDonnell and Cross are decent sources from the Mirror.
I posted it and it got removed, I thought it be allowed it's not like he's any worse than a lot of the stuff we see in there.
Its in the OP. Mullock is allowed.
I think McDonnell is one of the journos that gets briefed by the board. He's always been one of the few that's reported when multiple sources release their exclusives.
Ok, I'll just take the Mirror off the list since its more of a nuisance than a benefit to restrict certain journos but not others from the same outlet. We can have a journo chat at the end of the window to look at what worked and what didn't so we're better prepared for the next window.
Cheers mate
I'm not his biggest fan but to be fair the dude has been around for ages. He played for Dortmund and Wolfsburg before joining Inter, I'm pretty confident most people have at least heard of him.
I cant think of a single Utd story the Mirror ever broke, even the mass briefings is apparently 1/2 journos who share it wide with their mates for future favours in return.
I noticed this summer that people are routinely pushing a lot of journos as respected Utd sources which is ridiculous since we tightened the ship. Our news is famous for coming from abroad with the Brits playing catch up
I noticed this summer that people are routinely pushing a lot of journos as respected Utd sources which is ridiculous since we tightened the ship. Our news is famous for coming from abroad with the Brits playing catch up
Feels like the foreign sources have been less reliable when it's come to us this season though. With Lukaku and Matic it was very much the English journalists getting there first.
Spot on
English sources or "Mr Chelsea" Matt Law on his lonesome?
Its also a trend to want to believe a story like Fabinho so they drag up weeks old quotes about enquires etc and are somhow shocked that no more news probably means the initial interest wasn't followed up on.
Ill also add that a lot of the Morata news from Spain were quoting the English press (as per Sport Witness) so a lot of the sources are misleading.
Bailly / Pogba / Lindelof were all reported from abroad. The English hadn't a clue that Lukaku was on the verge of joining us and the best source for Mkhi was a golf caddy from the Caf!
We have no sources, that's why people trust Castles so much, he's as close as it gets
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Its also a trend to want to believe a story like Fabinho so they drag up weeks old quotes about enquires etc and are somhow shocked that no more news probably means the initial interest wasn't followed up on.
Ill also add that a lot of the Morata news from Spain were quoting the English press (as per Sport Witness) so a lot of the sources are misleading.
Bailly / Pogba / Lindelof were all reported from abroad. The English hadn't a clue that Lukaku was on the verge of joining us and the best source for Mkhi was a golf caddy from the Caf!
We have no sources, that's why people trust Castles so much, he's as close as it gets
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Matt Lawton of the Mail broke the Lukaku transfer. It was reported by various English Journos Matic was a target.
And? Our Lukaku coup was leaked by Chelsea FFS, not a Utd source which completely ignores the fact that all of the English press considered him to be a Chelsea player for most of the summer when he himself admitted he agreed to join us days after the EL final.
Even if there's a mystic Utd source somewhere it doesn't justify the benefit of the doubt that so many journos are now getting just because theyve tweeted something interesting. With the amount of journos that are now accredited with contacts we should be awash with accurate Utd news which simply isn't the case.
A Utd story in England will be leaked by a journo with links to the selling club. Foreign journos always have the updates on targets from abroad. It's never a Utd itk.
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