Ivan Perisic

[EyeInTheSky]

It's been 4 years of no titles.
You want to sacrifice this season....that'll make it 5 seasons.
With Martial/Rash still very young, they won't be reliable for another 2-3 seasons.
So you want us to sacrifice the title race for around 7 years?

I do realise that some of you love Martial or any other youth player, but I am a MUFC fan. I have no loyalty to any particular player...only to the club.
I want to see MUFC win. Plain and simple. We are not Southampton, where we need to develop youth, to sell to the big clubs. We are the big club and we should be aiming to win the title every season...not in 2-3 years time.

my sentiments exactly. I would also add that we are developing youth talent which is showing good signs atm.

 

[Oneunited26]

Agree with this

City have emerged since 2005 and the league is more competitive now than it's ever been. We need to get that 4th player Mourinho wants. I'd like to see us sign Perisic, but if not, then get someone else. Let's give ourselves the best possible chance to fight on all fronts and let the manager decide on how many minutes certain player's deserve.

City in 2005 were just about staying in the PL, you mean chelsea. But still, how is perisic going to give us the best possible chance? when we would still lose a player in the process, when united are over booked in the attacking wide area's. If united are going to spend a bucket load, they may is well pay 100 million for someone truly special. Rashford, martial, mkhi, mata, think Jose needs to make sure we get more out of these guys, who can its about how the team is set up. Martial can easily fill in the gap on the left, with Mkhi and rashford interchanging with rashford to support lukaku. Its not about options which the team has got, its about style of play, and going for the kill we have been too defensive. Perisic next year will most likely cost half of what inter want, and we would still be having the same options if we got perisic, maybe weaker since inter want not only a huge sum of money, and martial on loan. I would rather the club look at our fullback area, and luckily the club has dodged the bullet

my sentiments exactly. I would also add that we are developing youth talent which is showing good signs atm.

The way some are saying, we have a team full of youth players, the team has got a good mix, with this mix it allows martial and rashford to develop. When team's backbone is DDG, bailey, valenica, pogba, herrera, matic, mata, mkhi, lukaku, there is a stellar experience of players to allow someone like rashford and martial to develop, when you have that in the squad to play with, its a great chance to allow those 2 to develop, we not short of experience so yeah I would rather these 2 on the pitch, than give a player like perisic at the age he is at a chance ahead of players like rashford and martial who will get better and better. Now a LB if shaw does not get fit is what the club needs to look at

 

[Adnan]

City in 2005 were just about staying in the PL, you mean chelsea. But still, how is perisic going to give us the best possible chance? when we would still lose a player in the process, when united are over booked in the attacking wide area's. If united are going to spend a bucket load, they may is well pay 100 million for someone truly special. Rashford, martial, mkhi, mata, think Jose needs to make sure we get more out of these guys, who can its about how the team is set up. Martial can easily fill in the gap on the left, with Mkhi and rashford interchanging with rashford to support lukaku. Its not about options which the team has got, its about style of play, and going for the kill we have been too defensive. Perisic next year will most likely cost half of what inter want, and we would still be having the same options if we got perisic, maybe weaker since inter want not only a huge sum of money, and martial on loan. I would rather the club look at our fullback area, and luckily the club has dodged the bullet



The way some are saying, we have a team full of youth players, the team has got a good mix, with this mix it allows martial and rashford to develop. When team's backbone is DDG, bailey, valenica, pogba, herrera, matic, mata, mkhi, lukaku, there is a stellar experience of players to allow someone like rashford and martial to develop, when you have that in the squad to play with, its a great chance to allow those 2 to develop, we not short of experience so yeah I would rather these 2 on the pitch, than give a player like perisic at the age he is at a chance ahead of players like rashford and martial who will get better and better. Now a LB if shaw does not get fit is what the club needs to look at

Perisic is better in wide areas than Mata, Mkhi and Rashford. He's fast and a good dribbler. It's very easy to see why Mourinho wants him.

 

[Oneunited26]

Perisic is better in wide areas than Mata, Mkhi and Rashford. He's fast and a good dribbler. It's very easy to see why Mourinho wants him.

Again its about how the team is set up, not the players and united have the players. Again inter have put so many road blocks in place the deal deader than elvis. They won't get martial and 50 plus million, so in all I am glad we have not gone ahead for this player. Rashford, mkhi and martial supporting lukaku is a good set up to have, esp with the 2 in the middle

 

[Adnan]

Again its about how the team is set up, not the players and united have the players. Again inter have put so many road blocks in place the deal deader than elvis. They won't get martial and 50 plus million, so in all I am glad we have not gone ahead for this player

You do understand that the the guy tasked with setting the team up wants Perisic?

I very much doubt Martial would go the other way and I believe what the MEN reported regarding Uniteds take on that. Which was, "United believe it was just brinksmanship by Inter"

 

[R'hllor]

The turd has finally flushed.

You lucky,lucky bastard

 

[Oneunited26]

You do understand that the the guy tasked with setting the team up wants Perisic?

I very much doubt Martial would go the other way and I believe what the MEN reported regarding Uniteds take on that. Which was, "United believe it was just brinksmanship by Inter"

And? Mourinho wanted rooney in 2013, and that fell through, so its not the first time Mourinho has dodged a bullet. Inter at the end of the day kept upping the price to the point it became impossible to negotiate with. Its a relief we not getting this guy, and a lesson inter will learn trying to rip off united

 

[BigCaine]

It's been 4 years of no titles.
You want to sacrifice this season....that'll make it 5 seasons.
With Martial/Rash still very young, they won't be reliable for another 2-3 seasons.
So you want us to sacrifice the title race for around 7 years?

I do realise that some of you love Martial or any other youth player, but I am a MUFC fan. I have no loyalty to any particular player...only to the club.
I want to see MUFC win. Plain and simple. We are not Southampton, where we need to develop youth, to sell to the big clubs. We are the big club and we should be aiming to win the title every season...not in 2-3 years time.

If we were talking about a bale or griezmann level player i would agree but we are talking about an average joe who is 29 and just last season had his best ever season since his club brugge days and even in that season he didn't score as many goals as martial did for us in his first season. You can't seriously be believing that getting perisic will turn us into title winning side.

 

[Adnan]

And? Mourinho wanted rooney in 2013, and that fell through, so its not the first time Mourinho has dodged a bullet. Inter at the end of the day kept upping the price to the point it became impossible to negotiate with. Its a relief we not getting this guy, and a lesson inter will learn trying to rip off united

All manager's make errors even very successful ones like Sir Alex and Mourinho. But I wouldn't say Rooney in 2013 would've been a mistake for Mourinho, he still had alot left in the tank at that time. Without him that season we might have finished in the bottom half of the table.

As far as Perisic goes, i'll go with my own judgement considering I've watched well over 20+ games he's played for Inter. I've also broken his game down and explained how he'll improve on our first 11. But it seems like most of you want your favourite player's to succeed even if it was to the detriment of the team.

 

[BluesJr]

Have we ever seen a potential signing divide the fanbase so much? I really can't remember one being as hotly discussed as this across different platforms.

 

[Adnan]

If we were talking about a bale or griezmann level player i would agree but we are talking about an average joe who is 29 and just last season had his best ever season since his club brugge days and even in that season he didn't score as many goals as martial did for us in his first season. You can't seriously be believing that getting perisic will turn us into title winning side.

Please explain to me what facet of his game is causing you such concern?

 

[BluesJr]

Please explain to me what facet of his game is causing you such concern?

I think a lot of people are just concerned he's fairly limited and he isn't capable of being a true match winner. I'm not against signing him but I do see the reasons why people aren't that keen. Fans will always prefer skill, flair and moments of magic over functionality.

 

[BigCaine]

Please explain to me what facet of his game is causing you such concern?

People keep telling me he will put in tons of crosses for lukaku to finish, now either his crossing ability has developed all of a sudden or we should have seen something of this ability in his career, sadly his career nos don't point to a great crosser who gets lot of assists. When you look at his finishing ability, again last season was his best season yet he did not score as many as martial did in his debut season. Other than being a traditional wide man in a sense he really adds nothing that great, a problem which can be easily solved if we find ourselves a good lb, we don't have traditional right winger, valencia covers that area, in the same way let the lb handle the width.

 

[edcunited1878]

I think a lot of people are just concerned he's fairly limited and he isn't capable of being a true match winner. I'm not against signing him but I do see the reasons why people aren't that keen. Fans will always prefer skill, flair and moments of magic over functionality.

And that's the same issue too many had with Matic...then he does what he did on Sunday and people are somehow amazed because they thought FM and FIFA says all.

And it's a bit funny saying fans will always prefer skill (well no shit, you're not at this level if you don't have any individual and team skill)...then the functionality portion comes from the people who don't understand what a team is or how to win in a team. Seriously. Experiencing winning at high levels, understanding it's a team concept/system is very difficult for people around the world to understand.

 

[Adnan]

I think a lot of people are just concerned he's fairly limited and he isn't capable of being a true match winner. I'm not against signing him but I do see the reasons why people aren't that keen. Fans will always prefer skill, flair and moments of magic over functionality.

From what I've seen from him at Inter, as a winger he's better than anyone we've got. He has fantastic acceleration which would help us break teams downs who sit deep or finish teams of on the counter. He's two footed, is good in the air and can shoot with either foot very well. His crossing is also of good quality and he would be a real danger to opposing defenses. He improves us and makes us an even more potent attacking outfit.

 

[edcunited1878]

People keep telling me he will put in tons of crosses for lukaku to finish, now either his crossing ability has developed all of a sudden or we should have seen something of this ability in his career, sadly his career nos don't point to a great crosser who gets lot of assists. When you look at his finishing ability, again last season was his best season yet he did not score as many as martial did in his debut season. Other than being a traditional wide man in a sense he really adds nothing that great, a problem which can be easily solved if we find ourselves a good lb, we don't have traditional right winger, valencia covers that area, in the same way let the lb handle the width.

You don't need a good LB...you need players that will compliment the players around them and improve them, lift them up. Perisic will run like Rashford does both ways and break at pace...on both flanks. Is a true crosser of the ball with either foot. Rashford and Martial cannot do this as well. Perisic would be a very good addition to the team and makes the competition for spots and in training much, much better.

 

[Oneunited26]

All manager's make errors even very successful ones like Sir Alex and Mourinho. But I wouldn't say Rooney in 2013 would've been a mistake for Mourinho, he still had alot left in the tank at that time. Without him that season we might have finished in the bottom half of the table.

As far as Perisic goes, i'll go with my own judgement considering I've watched well over 20+ games he's played for Inter. I've also broken his game down and explained how he'll improve on our first 11. But it seems like most of you want your favourite player's to succeed even if it was to the detriment to the team.

Rooney would have made no difference where united finished, he lost the hunger for this team, and he already peaked by then, even fergie thought the same. Who did Mourinho have instead of rooney? diego costa, and look at how that turned out.

You make out I have never watched him, I have watched him and I had to watch him when I found out we were after him and what I have seen, that's the price we paying for someone already peaking, if his best season was last season esp at the age he is at, jesus that's a bigger gamble than letting rashford and martial get a full season. fave players to succeed? more like players who have experience in the PL than someone 28 going on 29, who for a winger in italy will have 2 years tops with us if he does not hit the ground running. Detriment to the team? you make out we got no one to choose from, the backbone of the team is too strong for it to be a weakness for the team.

If he was wanted to be a wingback, Jose Mourinho may is well buy a proper fullback

Mkhi has shown he's good on the right, martial easily can do damage on the left, if these players are allowed to attack. Our attacking options was never the problem, it was the style of play, the team was way to defensive and still could be. The team needed an anchor man, and a quicker CF. If a manager cannot get the best out of rashford, martial, mkhi, mata, lukaku, with Matic, pogba and herrera too choose from in midfield, what is he doing in a job? The team needs to be adding more to the fullbacks than someone who we don't desperately need.

 

[BigCaine]

You don't need a good LB...you need players that will compliment the players around them and improve them, lift them up. Perisic will run like Rashford does both ways and break at pace...on both flanks. Is a true crosser of the ball with either foot. Rashford and Martial cannot do this as well. Perisic would be a very good addition to the team and makes the competition for spots and in training much, much better.

So having the left back provide width something our right back also does is not complimenting our players, but buying a hit and miss winger who crosses a lot does, makes sense. Also what exactly is a true crosser?

 

[Oneunited26]

So having the left back provide width something our right back also does is not complimenting our players, but buying a hit and miss winger who crosses a lot does, makes sense. Also what exactly is a true crosser?

That is the problem he is hit and miss, allot like our other attacking players at times, so he's another in the long line of hit and miss forwards. Fullback is an area I am more worried about than our attacking problems, a LB is really needed badly. And unless he wants perisic has a LB

 

[Adnan]

Rooney would have made no difference where united finished, he lost the hunger for this team, and he already peaked by then, even fergie thought the same. Who did Mourinho have instead of rooney? diego costa, and look at how that turned out.

You make out I have never watched him, I have watched him and I had to watch him when I found out we were after him and what I have seen, that's the price we paying for someone already peaking, if his best season was last season esp at the age he is at, jesus that's a bigger gamble than letting rashford and martial get a full season. fave players to succeed? more like players who have experience in the PL than someone 28 going on 29, who for a winger in italy will have 2 years tops with us if he does not hit the ground running. Detriment to the team? you make out we got no one to choose from, the backbone of the team is too strong for it to be a weakness for the team.

If he was wanted to be a wingback, Jose Mourinho may is well buy a proper fullback

Mkhi has shown he's good on the right, martial easily can do damage on the left, if these players are allowed to attack. Our attacking options was never the problem, it was the style of play, the team was way to defensive and still could be. The team needed an anchor man, and a quicker CF. If a manager cannot get the best out of rashford, martial, mkhi, mata, lukaku, with Matic, pogba and herrera too choose from in midfield, what is he doing in a job? The team needs to be adding more to the fullbacks than someone who we don't desperately need.

Rooney was our best player in Moyes' first season, not sure why you're even trying to even argue that.

I don't want to see player's on the wing who can just do a job. I want player's who are gonna be a real threat for us, we're one of the biggest clubs in the world after all. Mata and Mkhi are not wingers, it's pretty clear to see why Mourinho wants Perisic. He possess electric pace and is a damn good player with the ball at his feet.

Maybe you can explain to me why you think Mkhi and Mata would be better for us in a wide position in comparison to Perisic.

 

[BigCaine]

Rooney was our best player in Moyes' first season, not sure why you're even trying to even argue that.

I don't want to see player's on the wing who can just do a job. I want player's who are gonna be a real threat for us, we're one of the biggest clubs in the world after all. Mata and Mkhi are not wingers, it's pretty clear to see why Mourinho wants Perisic. He possess electric pace and is a damn good player with the ball at his feet.

Maybe you can explain to me why you think Mkhi and Mata would be better for us in a wide position in comparison to Perisic.

Was rooney our best player because he was that good or was it because everyone else was shit, any which way rooney's great season lasted only until he got his big fat 300k contract after that it was back to being the same rooney we all know and hate.

You say you wan't a player who can be a real threat and be a world beater or difference maker yet you are telling us that Perisic is the best option? Perisic is exactly the sort of player who can just do a job, he will never be a world beater or a big difference maker.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

Rooney was our best player in Moyes' first season, not sure why you're even trying to even argue that.

I don't want to see player's on the wing who can just do a job. I want player's who are gonna be a real threat for us, we're one of the biggest clubs in the world after all. Mata and Mkhi are not wingers, it's pretty clear to see why Mourinho wants Perisic. He possess electric pace and is a damn good player with the ball at his feet.

Maybe you can explain to me why you think Mkhi and Mata would be better for us in a wide position in comparison to Perisic.

Both Mata and Mkhi have had better season's on the wing than Perisic ever had.

 

[Adnan]

Was rooney our best player because he was that good or was it because everyone else was shit, any which way rooney's great season lasted only until he got his big fat 300k contract after that it was back to being the same rooney we all know and hate.

You say you wan't a player who can be a real threat and be a world beater or difference maker yet you are telling us that Perisic is the best option? Perisic is exactly the sort of player who can just do a job, he will never be a world beater or a big difference maker.

Rooney would've done well at Chelsea surrounded by much better player's and competent manager. He still had something to offer.

My preferred player on the wing is Ousmane Dembele. But it looks like he's got his heart set on Barcelona. So if we can't get Dembele then what are the alternatives?

 

[Oneunited26]

Rooney was our best player in Moyes' first season, not sure why you're even trying to even argue that.

I don't want to see player's on the wing who can just do a job. I want player's who are gonna be a real threat for us, we're one of the biggest clubs in the world after all. Mata and Mkhi are not wingers, it's pretty clear to see why Mourinho wants Perisic. He possess electric pace and is a damn good player with the ball at his feet.

Maybe you can explain to me why you think Mkhi and Mata would be better for us in a wide position in comparison to Perisic.

And that was not saying much with rooney, who proved he should have gone. The greatest united manager said is time was up, and he was right.

You talking a player who is very inconsistent at the age 28 going on 29, not much better than what we got, mkhi rashford and martial supporting lukaku with pogba and matic in the middle is a very strong balanced 6 in home games. It gives us 2 options, we playing 3 forwards in lukaku, martial and rashford, while someone like mkhi has proven he can ghost past players, who is a very crafty but flexible player who can easily play on the right and the middle. Pace and movement again has never been a problem for united, its our approach to games which was a problem. We have missed a anchor man to give us calmness in the middle, lukaku hopefully has proven we have missed the dynamic spearhead our attacking players can play towards. Its about Mourinho's setup in how we were playing which has been the big problem, again this side needs a probably a top class LB if shaw cannot prove his worth to the team

 

[Adnan]

Both Mata and Mkhi have had better season's on the wing than Perisic ever had.

Playing on the right as midfielders, not wingers.

 

[van Nistelrooy]

I was very much against this signing at the start of the window, but now I'm thinking Perišić could be the difference between finishing 1st or 2nd.

If the stumbling block here really is £5-10m in this market, we should just give Inter what they want. Two or three seasons of reliable, consistent service on the wing is exactly what we need. There isn't a realistic alternative and Perišić would do much better than Lingard.

 

[K2K]

The turd has finally flushed.

Must be heart breaking for you.

 

[BigCaine]

Rooney would've done well at Chelsea surrounded by much better player's and competent manager. He still had something to offer.

My preferred player on the wing is Ousmane Dembele. But it looks like he's got his heart set on Barcelona. So if we can't get Dembele then what are the alternatives?

Then why not wait for a better player, griezmann will be available in jan or try and convince bale. Both miles better player player than perisic and buy a good lb to help provide width.

 

[Crackers]

Must be bowel breaking for you.

Fixed

 

[Adnan]

And that was not saying much with rooney, who proved he should have gone. The greatest united manager said is time was up, and he was right.

You talking a player who is very inconsistent at the age 28 going on 29, not much better than what we got, mkhi rashford and martial supporting lukaku with pogba and matic in the middle is a very strong balanced 6 in home games. It gives us 2 options, we playing 3 forwards in lukaku, martial and rashford, while someone like mkhi has proven he can ghost past players, who is a very crafty but flexible player who can easily play on the right and the middle. Pace and movement again has never been a problem for united, its our approach to games which was a problem. We have missed a anchor man to give us calmness in the middle, lukaku hopefully has proven we have missed the dynamic spearhead our attacking players can play towards. Its about Mourinho's setup in how we were playing which has been the big problem, again this side needs a probably a top class LB if shaw cannot prove his worth to the team

Show me where SAF said "his time was up " ?

Pace has been a problem for us in the last couple of years. But the bigger problem is player's who can beat opposing player's with a dribble on the wing. Mkhi can definitely ghost past player's in a central role but doing it on the wing consistently is not his forte. He's not a winger, and it's clear to see. I've already posted about why I believe Perisic will elevate us and make us a much more dangerous attacking unit.

 

[Oneunited26]

I was very much against this signing at the start of the window, but now I'm thinking Perišić could be the difference between finishing 1st or 2nd.

If the stumbling block here really is £5-10m in this market, we should just give Inter what they want. Two or three seasons of reliable, consistent service on the wing is exactly what we need. There isn't a realistic alternative and Perišić would do much better than Lingard.

The stumbling block, is? inter don't want to sell, and they keep upping the price. Our bigger issue is fullback area's, which some are underestimating how light we are in those area's

Show me where SAF said "his time was up " ?

Pace has been a problem for us in the last couple of years. But the bigger problem is player's who can beat opposing player's with a dribble on the wing. Mkhi can definitely ghost past player's in a central role but doing it on the wing consistently is not his forte. He's not a winger, and it's clear to see. I've already posted about why I believe Perisic will elevate us and make us a much more dangerous attacking unit.

Do we really need to go over the fact fergie wanted to sell rooney, if fergie stayed on has united manager, rooney would have gone. We know a ferguson star player pattern, tensions between the player, and the player finds himself on the bench.

We have pace in the team, guys like martial, rashford, lukaku will offer that extra we are missing, through the middle and out wide. We solved the biggest issue the anchor man, and the no9 position, and getting more out of pogba, that is where Mourinho will win or lose. The spine of matic, pogba and lukaku, that has been more key and keeping DDG. Again you still overlooking our style of play last season, where was the tempo? where was attacking players playing attacking wingers? not LW's. We need to strengthen the fullback area's more than another attacking winger. If Jose Mourinho really wants him, he will pay that fee, seems Jose is not so desperate to pay that fee or he would already be here. Jose likes to spend the money, think you need to question, why has it not been spent? if he was that good

 

[Stadjer]

Then why not wait for a better player, griezmann will be available in jan or try and convince bale. Both miles better player player than perisic and buy a good lb to help provide width.

Griezmann isnt really a winger is he? He used to play winger for Sociedad but at Atletico where he became a big name player he mostly plays central

 

[Adnan]

Then why not wait for a better player, griezmann will be available in jan or try and convince bale. Both miles better player player than perisic and buy a good lb to help provide width.

What if Griezmann's head is turned by another club? Then we'll look silly again like we did this season thinking he was joining us. Griezmann will be deployed centrally IMO, shouldn't effect us signing a winger.

 

[Adnan]

The stumbling block, is? inter don't want to sell, and they keep upping the price. Our bigger issue is fullback area's, which some are underestimating how light we are in those area's

Inter have a price for their player that hasn't changed contrary to what you've probably read in the different media/press outlets.

 

[Oneunited26]

Inter have a price for their player that hasn't changed contrary to what you've probably read in the different media/press outlets.

And the club and manager don't seem that bothered paying that price

 

[Adnan]

And the club and manager don't seem that bothered paying that price

I'm just correcting you on what you posted. I'm not talking about what the manager and club are bothering to do.

 

[Oneunited26]

I'm just correcting you on what you posted. I'm not talking about what the manager and club are bothering to do.

Not really, if inter wanted to sell they would have esp 3 years on his contract, this is the best price they will ever get considering the lack of other clubs after him, clubs are not lining up for him. For the player that he is, what united offered is more than fair. He is probably worth 32 million even in this current market, and united offered probably 40 million. Lets not forget he has 3 years on his contract, next year its 2 and his price would have dropped, so you would think they would take united's offer. Their lucky he has not put in a transfer request, or they would have one unhappy player on their hands

 

[Adnan]

Not really, if inter wanted to sell they would have esp 3 years on his contract, this is the best price they will ever get considering the lack of other clubs after him. For the player that he is, what united offered is more than fair. He is probably worth 32 million even in this current market. Lets not forget he has 3 years on his contract, next year its 2 and his price would have dropped, so you would think they would take united's offer.

Inter have an asking price that they're sticking to so far. It remains to be seen what happens in the time left until the window shuts. But I hope we bring someone in cos I do think we're short of real quality on the wing.

 

[Oneunited26]

Inter have an asking price that they're sticking to so far. It remains to be seen what happens in the time left until the window shuts. But I hope we bring someone in cos I do think we're short of real quality on the wing.

I think we short of quality at fullback beyond valencia. We are fine in those wing positions if we have evolved our attacking play, would rather we sign a top quality LB than another winger. Look at every area of the team, fullback is our weakest area

 

[Adnan]

I think we short of quality at fullback beyond valencia. We are fine in those wing positions if we have evolved our attacking play, would rather we sign a top quality LB than another winger. Look at every area of the team, fullback is our weakest area

I hope we get both, but wouldn't complain too much if we got just the one.