Chelsea had true wingbacks on either side. Plus Hazard and Pedro who both operate with the speed and guile of any true winger. We are not comparable in that sense.
Ivan Perisic
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For me it's just the price. He's too expensive for his age and you could say even for his ability but if he could be that one signing that helps us push for the title, the price won't matter in the end. I could definitely see us needing a player of his kind. Cut inside from wings tactics are not always going to work.
Hope we end up signing him if we're not getting Bale.
Save the money for next summer transfer window. Let Rashford and Martial compete/rotate on the left wing; if we still need reinforcements there we should raid Atleti for both Griezmann and Carrasco for 200M.
No need for him. LB is more important.
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Personally, I don't see how spending 50M on a 28 year old who won't be good enough for anything but Lingard duty once his pace goes makes sense when we have 2 potentially world-class left wingers who badly need games at LW.
Now that we've bought Lukaku, who is young and rarely gets injured and have Mourinho as our manager, and he basically never starts with 2 up, Rashford is going to either be a backup here or he'll have to learn how to be a winger or a 10. Same for Martial. And while Rashford is quite smart for a young player and did play wide when younger, he still badly needs games to learn, like any 19 year old. And Martial is basically converting positions and is pretty clearly very raw in terms of movement as a winger. And of course both need to learn how to defend like any young wing forwards do.
So, sure, Perisic would very likely help us this year giving us width, crossing and defensive work on the left or right, especially in bigger games, but I don't think he's any better than Mata in games against weaker teams, Mkhitaryan can provide some pace on the counter out right too and the young guys need games.
Much rather see us use that sort of cash in a different way, like signing a proper LB who can run and defend in case Shaw gets hurt, or whoever we think is the best 16-17 year old on the planet like Madrid just did with Vinicius, or just keep it around and throw it at Griezmann, Bale, Sanchez, Verratti or another actual star next summer.
Good signs from Martial today.
Just because they play in the same position does not mean they play in the same way. Mourinho knows of Martial's quality, this good performance doesn't change anything. Everyone knew Martial is capable, Mourinho just wants a different type of player on the left.
We should continue to press for this signing if we can. City will purchase more players if they can. That's our main competitors. We can't short change ourselves if we have a realistic chance of landing Perisic.
But would it be too bold to say... We are not surprised, as in we kinda knew he always had this in him. But last season he maybe was put out over the number and a bit of self doubt/frustration crept in?
He's probably in decline like Matic.
Another player we most likely dont need necessarily or like the others we signed
Linked to Chelsea today.
Bad news.
Oddest transfer saga ever. Pity as I think we need different options within the squad, so I hope we still get the additional attacking option Mourinho desires.
This.
Basically all of this, I'd rather we get rinsed buying a truly world class forward for upwards of £100m than go for another trier who won't do much to advance us as an attacking force. Or like you say buy a quality LB to improve that left side whilst building up the young guns we already have.
Wouldn't be surprised if Ed told Jose 'If you want Perisic then Martial must be sold'...promting Jose to stick with Martial.
Perisic would have been amazing for example in a champions league semi final where his world class crossing into Lukaku against a tight defense could make the difference but Martial has a big role to play and can play anywhere across the forward line.
But in the long run it makes far more sense to spend 80 million on a Pulisic instead a year down the road.
Perisic would have been amazing for example in a champions league semi final where his world class crossing into Lukaku against a tight defense could make the difference but Martial has a big role to play and can play anywhere across the forward line.
But in the long run it makes far more sense to spend 80 million on a Pulisic instead a year down the road.
According to Italian sources (Calciomercato.com) Spalletti has managed to convince Perisic to remain at Inter:
L'Inter non cederà più Ivan Perisic. Luciano Spalletti ha convinto l'esterno croato a rimanere in nerazzurro grazie ad un progetto che lo valorizzerà in tempi brevi e che lo farà esplodere anche dal punto di vista realizzativo. Un lavoro sopraffino dell'allenatore di Certaldo che ha parlato a lungo con l'ex Wolfsburg per ripensare alla permanenza a Milano.
Il Manchester United ha frenato fortemente su di lui, non vuole arrivare alle cifre richieste dai nerazzurri e allora a mercato chiuso l'ex Wolfsburg firmerà un rinnovo di contratto da top player. L'Inter ha già proposto un aumento da 5 milioni di euro a stagione fino al 2021, lui chiede 5,5 milioni annui, ma l'intesa è vicina.
L'Inter non cederà più Ivan Perisic. Luciano Spalletti ha convinto l'esterno croato a rimanere in nerazzurro grazie ad un progetto che lo valorizzerà in tempi brevi e che lo farà esplodere anche dal punto di vista realizzativo. Un lavoro sopraffino dell'allenatore di Certaldo che ha parlato a lungo con l'ex Wolfsburg per ripensare alla permanenza a Milano.
Il Manchester United ha frenato fortemente su di lui, non vuole arrivare alle cifre richieste dai nerazzurri e allora a mercato chiuso l'ex Wolfsburg firmerà un rinnovo di contratto da top player. L'Inter ha già proposto un aumento da 5 milioni di euro a stagione fino al 2021, lui chiede 5,5 milioni annui, ma l'intesa è vicina.
If Martial plays like he did yesterday we don´t need Perisic..
An old fashion winger or what ever PPL want to call it, the winger needed was never the problem, it was our approach and style in how we attack, is our attacking players playing has attacking wingers? or LW's? that's the difference, Mkhi and rashford played more advanced, valencia was allowed to play more advanced because we have the midfield to dominate games. If the engine room is dominating, our fullbacks can defend, our attacking players can play with that freedom
Oh I think we are
There is nothing wrong with what we have, chelsea don't have a great deal of depth, we can choose from rashford, martial, mkhi. We played with plenty of speed and guile it was the approach to last season that killed united, not the options. I don't see how pedro is even better than what we have, they have hazard and that's it. Lets see how martial gets on, because he could easily deliver that impact we need
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jose' has to give Martial more playing time as Rashford does not stick the balls in!
So, in the meantime, we sacrifice the title race, just to give youngsters a chance?
And regarding the Atletico raid: that didn't work out too well this Summer did it?
Meh.
Sign Rose.
Sign Rose.
A decent LB makes this signing unnecessary.
And that's the big question right there. Can Martial deliver consistently?
Last season, I noticed that every time Martial had a great game, the next 4 games were weak/average/anonymous. He would then have another great game, before going anonymous in the next 3-4 games.
This cycle continued throughout the season and his final league goal tally was 4.
Thats a huge IF..
Why is some of that text in bold? It's just emphasizing that I don't know Italian
Well we need to make our mind up. Danny Rose will still cost the same as Perisic even though I would be happy to buy him and leave the Perisic deal as Rose can offer the final third delivery and create space for Martial and Rashford to cut in and be a threat.
True, but sometimes our play will be to predictable so to have a player that can go either way,down the line or cut inside with the added bonus of being a decent crosser of the ball can only add another dimension to our game.
I don't understand why Martial is getting so little game time but I like the idea of an out and out winger.
After watching the game yesterday, i think a LB or RW is needed more than an LW. An athletic LB that can attack and defend and cross too(like Rose) will eliminate any need for a line hugging LW. Have Martial and Rashford duke it out for the LW position with Mata or Mkhi coming in from the right. Anyway, we will still be light in attack, so i can't help but think we should go for Willian if chelsea sign Perisic, he can take set-pieces too but i doubt chelsea will sell after selling us Matic.
That shit would be much more damaging for the club than selling Martial or signing Perisic. That bellend Kenyon did that to Fergie once, and Fergie wasn't happy.
Like we sacrificed 2005-2006 to let Ronaldo and Rooney grow? I would take sacrificing a year to make Lukaku, Martial, Rashford and Pogba click together. Because if they click, they will be an unstoppable force for many years to come.
Or maybe Inter wants Martial as part of the deal, that's why we told them to do one and dropped interest?
We can't have Martial doing that again. It cost him his marriage and ruined his performances for ages ffs.
Glad to see this one is dead and buried. We have two of the best young talents in Europe with us. Let's play them and ensure they reach their potential.
Right wing, right wing, right wing. Still a problem.
If he wants to stay at Inter its likely he has gotten word or vibes we are after someone else
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