Ivan Perisic

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We must make this signing. Our play is no where near stretched wide enough and the inability to put in a cross is hampering the bid to add unpredictability to our play.

It's actually crucial in my opinion. Our options on the wings are far too similar and they all get a nose bleed if they have to turn opposite the direction they're comfortable with. Also, Lingard.
 
RDCR07 said:
Yes a then 24 year old who has much more potential, proven in the premier league, younger, more versatile and a more pacey winger/inside forward is the same as a 28 year old who has just had his most productive season in his career playing in top flight Europe and who isnt going to improve on his game much more after this.
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My point was, Mane was looked down upon as a possible signing by many when he was at Southampton. It's easy to justify his signing now with hindsight.

Perisic is 28 not 38, he has the ablity to take our play up a notch, which shouldn't even be too difficult for him.
 
RDCR07 said:
Signing someone just for the sake of signing another player aint going to help us either.
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That's clearly not what this is though. Perisic would be CRUCIAL in any chance of us winning the league. Our wingplay is garbage.
 
haram said:
That's clearly not what this is though. Perisic would be CRUCIAL in any chance of us winning the league. Our wingplay is garbage.
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Crucial is an exaggeration as you well know. Let's not go overboard.
 
Perisic would be a useful signing but his presence is certainly not going to propel us into genuine title contenders. Bale would have.
 
themoyesboy said:
Perisic would be a useful signing but his presence is certainly not going to propel us into genuine title contenders. Bale would have.
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In my opinion Perisic is the type of player that can come in to our team and fix our first team down. There is too much rotation happening now & it's showing that José himself is not sure.

Do you remember how well valencia and young played for LVG playing the 352; our squad is much fresher, younger now & having wing backs like valencia and Perisic will literally be deadly.

Perisic isn't being bought as an alternative to bale; even if we bought bale - it would be only a matter of time until we bought Perisic or another player who is able to do what he does.
 
themoyesboy said:
Perisic would be a useful signing but his presence is certainly not going to propel us into genuine title contenders. Bale would have.
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Beggars can't be choosers. I too think he is average but we need a proper winger in quickly.

Besides, he has been in good form recently. Might be good for 10 goals in the league.
 
Never been entirely sure about Perisic, but I can't for the life of me understand why we're willing to pay 35m but not 50. Surely in todays market 50m for a Man Utd level winger who the selling club doesn't want to sell isn't that expensive. I know he's ancient but if Mourinho really want him we should just pay up.

Have the Glazers gone tight?
 
Macern said:
Never been entirely sure about Perisic, but I can't for the life of me understand why we're willing to pay 35m but not 50. Surely in todays market 50m for a Man Utd level winger who the selling club doesn't want to sell isn't that expensive. I know he's ancient but if Mourinho really want him we should just pay up.

Have the Glazers gone tight?
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Didn't the papers say we offered 40+5 mill in add-ons at one stage? For the sake of 3 mill we may as well go for it. Mourinho would have all the players he wanted then
 
haram said:
We cant cross the ball. We don't have a proper winger. It is a crucial part of the team.
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Might as well sign an attacking left back to provide width and cross the ball, the modern fullback has made the traditional winger redundant. LB is our weakest position, would help Martial/Rashford or whoever else plays on the LW too without hampering their growth, and would be cheaper than spending 50m for a peaked/peaking player.

Most top teams dont use proper wingers, instead they use wide forwards with fullbacks maintaining the width and stretching teams. If we let Martial play with an attacking LB behind him making supporting runs he would have better output and a bigger impact on our season than an average player like Perisic ever could.
 
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dichinero said:
First of all, Lukaku is not Andy Carroll and secondly there are other ways to get the ball to him than obsessing with crossing.

IIRC, despite having better crossers of the ball at Everton, majority of Lukaku's goals came from other varied options other than crosses.

Granted, our team is not blessed with great crossers, shouldn't we be working out how we play through the middle more, given that we have more players suited for that.

£50m for one decent crosser out of 27 players seems a bit all eggs in the basket
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Ivan Perisic is NOT just a good crosser of the ball. He is a rare two footed attacker with pace, dribbling skills, and ability to deliver good set pieces. I really don't get why people don't want this guy considering the fact that Jose badly wants him, there are not many alternatives out there and a Bale will cost 100 million bucks with almost half a million in wages every week. It's not like Perisic will not deliver goals and assists plus give us some serious tactical flexibility.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Yet Mourinho has not looked to either get more out of the likes of shaw, martial, hell no matter who we have he will want them doing more work defending than looking to hurt sides, which here lies our problem, clean sheets seem more important than goals scored for Mourinho. If we don't see any improvement this season, I'm afraid this will be the pattern forever under Mourinho. When he does not want fullbacks crossing the halfway line, then its more tactical blunders. Didn't last season he learn any lessons for Mourinho, that this 1-0 garbage which ended up with us getting has many 1-1 draws has the 1-0 wins he had at chelsea in the 2004/05 season. If we still see the same kind of football, don't think potential means anything if this is how he wants united playing.



This is the problem, he seems more focused how many clean sheets we can have than scoring allot of goals, its why we got allot of 1-1 draws. If we see the kind of football we saw last season, then I am afraid he can dream of PL titles, than winning them
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Yet, he constantly talks about the need to score more goals this season and he is the holder of most league titles amongst all the EPL managers at the moment. Yeah, he can only dream of PL titles.
 
GM K said:
Ivan Perisic is NOT just a good crosser of the ball. He is a rare two footed attacker with pace, dribbling skills, and ability to deliver good set pieces. I really don't get why people don't want this guy considering the fact that Jose badly wants him, there are not many alternatives out there and a Bale will cost 100 million bucks with almost half a million in wages every week. It's not like Perisic will not deliver goals and assists plus give us some serious tactical flexibility.
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Think we definitely need to get him. Look how Salah added an extra dimension to the Liverpool attack. They have Mane as well who is just as dangerous.
 
My Inter supporting friend said we accepted Inters demands of 55m and decision will be made shortly is the news from Inters end.
 
Yeah, I think it's pretty important we get this lad. We're way too narrow atm, and if we can't get a lb, then spend the money.
 
Just pay the extra 10mill or whatever and get him in!

He would add the perfect balance on the left and is also a bit of a machine going forwards and back and is unpredictable as he is both footed.

I have no faith in shaw staying fit even when he recovers, plus is not going to start straight away as wont be match fit. Darmian is useless forward, blind is too slow n useless vs the top teams and rojo dont even go there.
 
Having seen the transfers this season, yes Perisic is worth £50m. And yes I'd take him in a heartbeat. Seen him play (on tv) a few times and while he's not Giggs, Best or whatever, he's a bloody good player. And for his age (not that we should be focused so much on that) he looks to have another 5 years in him. He's actually physically a beast of a man for a winger. He's a 90 min+ player who wouldn't let us down.
 
Adnan said:
Not long ago a certain Sadio Mane wasn't deemed good enough for us.
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Mane was always good enough for us, only people who don't understand potential thought he wasn't. He'd be so ideal in our squad right now.
 
Seems Perisic wasn't first choice on Jose's list with the time this has dragged on.

Perhaps it was Bale but especially with Mbappe seemingly going to PSG there is no chance of that happening now Bale's reluctance notwithstanding.

Time to sign the fella up we clearly need something new out wide.

Don't see a lot of point in signing a yougster up when Martial is also crying out for gametime - I really hope we don;t give up on him whatever happens.
 
GM K said:
Yet, he constantly talks about the need to score more goals this season and he is the holder of most league titles amongst all the EPL managers at the moment. Yeah, he can only dream of PL titles.
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And? By the way that's not totally accurate, Mourinho has won has many PL titles has wenger, and do we see wenger ever winning a title? It's very much doubtful. The way united are going it's not totally out of the reach he will win a PL title has a united manager, which I don't think he will, not the way he wants united playing
 
If you go on Liverpool forums you'll see them saying how stupid it is that they didn't sign any defenders and are continuing to have the same defensive issues as last season. This is how I feel about our attacking situation.

Yes we got Lukaku but in a sense that he's a direct replacement for Ibra we still haven't really improved at all our attacker situation. If we don't sign any wingers/wingbacks we'll just see the same problems as last year and be baffled why we're in this situation. Just watch us come up against a team that defends deep and us play slow and uncreative play infront of the defence. We really need to sign some players who offer us something different in attack or I worry we won't have solved our chronic issues from last season. Whether that's Perisic or someone else it doesn't matter much to me but we absolutely can't do what Liverpool have done and not address the issue at all
 
Oneunited26 said:
And? By the way that's not totally accurate, Mourinho has won has many PL titles has wenger, and do we see wenger ever winning a title? It's very much doubtful. The way united are going it's not totally out of the reach he will win a PL title has a united manager, which I don't think he will, not the way he wants united playing
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I kind of think the opposite. Spurs, Arsenal and City haven't won it playing a certain brand of football and I think whilst it's not the Utd way, the way we set up now can once we take the clear chances when presented.
 
BluesJr said:
Mane was always good enough for us, only people who don't understand potential thought he wasn't. He'd be so ideal in our squad right now.
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Mane was good enough I agree

Perisic is also good more than good enough for us and I've explained why in my earlier posts.
 
RDCR07 said:
Yes a then 24 year old who has much more potential, proven in the premier league, younger, more versatile and a more pacey winger/inside forward is the same as a 28 year old who has just had his most productive season in his career playing in top flight Europe and who isnt going to improve on his game much more after this.
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This is the whole point. Before Liverpool signed Mane he was an inconsistent, 1 dimensional mid table winger who was never good enough for the top level. Anyone in hindsight can come up with reasons why a player is good but that's only in hindsight they're saying that. Before last season few people were saying what you've said about Mane and what they said is very similar to what people are saying about Perisic now.

Likewise people were hating on Matic so much before we signed him and after 2 brilliant pre-season games the views have done a complete 180. People need to at least appreciate that there is a potential for them to be wrong rather than claim things such as that it was always clear Mane was good and Perisic is a different situation, when in fact both of those statements are completely wrong.
 
Saf94 said:
If you go on Liverpool forums you'll see them saying how stupid it is that they didn't sign any defenders and are continuing to have the same defensive issues as last season. This is how I feel about our attacking situation.

Yes we got Lukaku but in a sense that he's a direct replacement for Ibra we still haven't really improved at all our attacker situation. If we don't sign any wingers/wingbacks we'll just see the same problems as last year and be baffled why we're in this situation. Just watch us come up against a team that defends deep and us play slow and uncreative play infront of the defence. We really need to sign some players who offer us something different in attack or I worry we won't have solved our chronic issues from last season. Whether that's Perisic or someone else it doesn't matter much to me but we absolutely can't do what Liverpool have done and not address the issue at all
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I hear you but I think those players are already here just need them to be more consistent in their performances. We need Martial to be the player we know he can be, Rashford to be clinical and Mikki to be less sulky when things don't go his way.
 
I guess this is an indication of how far we have fallen that buying Perisic will actually improve our team. If we get him, we will see Lingard on one side and Perisic on the other side. Just imagine it, it is enough to make limp any hard-on.
 
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