Lukaku has feet too.
Ivan Perisic
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Lukaku has feet too.
Well i'm not suggesting we only play aerially but you have to mix up your game and have different routes to goal, why invest all that money in tall players and then not be able to utilise that skill at all? If we don't sign a crossing winger we play the same way we did last year and struggle to break teams down and score goals. Over the summer we sign a bunch of 6ft+ players but then don't utilise that new strength at all? How stupid would that be? I mean if you sign Lukaku and only play to his feet you've only signed half a player, I think he has something like the most headed goals in the league.
Besides the comparisons to Madrid are way off, we aren't nearly technically as good as them and could never play the way they do. We need to play to our strengths and a crossing winger is vital to do that otherwise we will continue to look like a bunch of square pegs in round holes.
I thought Lukaku was brought primarily for the reason that he will turn us in to a devastating counter attacking unit, plus his hold up play is second to none in the premier league in my opinion. Being good in the air is simply an added bonus.
Perisic is an excellent player and would easily improve us.
He's a very good player and FAR from "shitty". He'd be one of our best players and one of the best wingers in the league. Out of all the words to describe Perisic? Shitty? Moronic statement.
He's a very good player and FAR from "shitty". He'd be one of our best players and one of the best wingers in the league. Out of all the words to describe Perisic? Shitty? Moronic statement.
How can we play counter attacking when 80% of teams sit back against us? Surely he was signed to help us break down the defensive resilient teams who set up deep and narrow and frustrate us. Those are the games which lost us a top 4 place and where we struggled the most
What makes you think he will contribute anymore than Ibra did against the smaller clubs? We were largely dominant in each of those games against "park the bus" teams, creating plenty of chances in the process, the issue was that we couldn't put the ball in the back of the net.
For me, at least, Lukaku will contribute more to the team when we're under the cosh somewhat, as will likely happen against the bigger teams. His pace and hold-up play could prove to be the difference in those games. Plus his style will bring the best out of Martial and Rashford.
Exactly..
Our problem problem last season and this season is the same. We'll come up against teams that will defend deep and a counter attacking approach would be nonsensical against them for obvious reasons from the get go. Perisic provides that extra string in our bow to provide the pace and variation that we've been crying out for.
Valencia, Depay and Young were three signings I wasn't happy with in the wing positions but I would be very happy with Perisic.
It shouldn't be difficult for Lukaku to improve on Zlatan's awful conversion rate.
I don't understand, we signed a 90m striker to be useful for 10 league games a season? What about the other 28 games? Even if we beat the big teams we won't do anything if we keep drawing against the smaller teams. If Lukaku can't help us against those teams we may as well not bothered signing him.
Also it's pretty funny that Lukaku has been accused of being a flat track bully his whole career and now you're claiming he can't do it against the small teams and only against the big teams
Never said he couldn't do it against the smaller teams, or that he will only be useful for 10 games a season, simply that he will be no more effective in front of goal than Ibra was, at least not significantly so. A player of Lukaku's ability would be useful against any opponent, regardless of their tactics to counter him, much like Ibra last season.
I feel that Lukaku will be extremely potent in a typical Jose Mourinho counter attacking team, his play style at least suggests as much. Of course that is not to say that he won't score goals against smaller teams as well.
For a club like Manchester? Sorry, but you would be better off with Schürrle. He knows the league and at least he is working hard.
Perisic works his ass off for inter
He was never the best winger in the Bundesliga or the Serie A and you think he's suddenly going to become a Hazard/Mane/Sanchez level player? Even players like Coutinho and Eriksen perform better out wide despite not being proper wingers. He was outperformed by many other wide players last season in Italy, one of whom has joined our rivals (Salah). He's not shitty but he is an average player that wouldn't add anything to this side an attacking LB couldn't. I know you've been rimming him throughout this thread but surely you can see why people wouldn't want him?
Does he markedly improve us? I think if we're going to pay good money for a winger (untested in the EPL), the scouting team and manager need to be confident he's capable of beating top class midfielders/full backs at pace and consistently providing the standard of crosses that our other AM, or CFs thrive upon. 'Hard-working' is not going to cut it week in, week out. I think the fact we are balking at £45M+ indicates we are not sure. I would rather wait for a Bale type 'worldy' wide option, and in the interim use our existing players for service into the box. Tonys V & M, Darmian, Shaw, Miki can all cross a ball - maybe we need to work a bit on developing our existing options.
You'll be waiting awhile. And paying £130m+.
just give them what they want. If he's what Mourinho wants, then let's go for it. I personally don't want to see Martial fall further down the pecking order, but it's looking increasingly likely that this will happen.
Can't we just have Martial on the right? He's better than Mkhitaryan who offers no width anyway, could cut in on his left and actually has the ability to beat a man unlike Mata. That leaves the left flank as the defensive one with Perisic doing the leg work Jose likes.
Martial has never played on the right and I don't see why he'd cut in on his left when he's a right footer.
Quite possibly - if that's the market (that said, I don't subscribe to the view that every decent player is now £100M+ post Neymar Jr to PSG). I still don't think it follows to pay £50M + wages for a player that doesn't significantly improve us or give us a different option. Worse, when the acquisition pushes existing players with great potential down the order - Martial in particular.
I'm pretty sure when we first signed him he was supposed to play on the right.
In his first interview, he said he he was brought in to play as a #9 actually
I'm basing it on van Gaal's comments.
Couldn't agree with this more, hopefully the stance the club are taking as well. Mourinho needs to actually use his coaching skills to bring out the best in these players, if he's incapable of doing that and just relying on spending power what does it say about him? If he's struggling with the attack then why not bring in a specialised coach to assist? No shame in that whatsoever.
Excellent redefined.
I agree with all this. We're actually crying out for a coach to help with our attackers. I really believe this would help a lot.
We have a world class coach..
Good one
His performances for Croatia alone give me enough evidence to think he would be one of the best wingers in the league. People dont want him because he isn't a big name and they probably haven't even seen him play.
In his last 28 national appearances he has 15 goals. Was also Croatia's top scorer in 2016 EURO qualifying. Played well in the finals. WhoScored gave him a 7.84 rating, the same as Griezmann.
2014 World Cup he was ranked as the second-best performing player of the group stage by FIFA. So that's TWO International tournaments he has performed at.
16 goals, 16 assists in 57 games at national level. He started to kick on 2014 onwards. The 26 games prior he had only 1 goal.
11 goals and 8 assists in an unstable club/team last year. Salah had 15 goals and 11 assists in a more stable team who played better football which suited him. Some of you are claiming Salah is the much better player which is wide of the mark, and the fact that he failed under a Mourinho system before should at the very least tell you that different wingers are suited to different systems.
He is clearly a good player, all this guff about him being shite is becoming increasingly annoying to read. Perisic would be joining a BETTER team with a system that suits him and WILL produce.
We can be pedantic about the use of the word excellent all we want, he will improve us either way.
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Again, using stats against minnows like Malta and Azerbaijan does not give credit to your argument, albeit your opinion nonetheless. I really don't know anyone that gets excited about stats from the qualifying round. Even Welbeck is a qualifying round legend.
I think we'll get this one across the line in the next week. I reckon it's got past the bargaining stage and United will just be prepared to pay up in order get Mourinho's final target. I think Perisic could be the difference between challenging for top 4 and challenging for the title.
Get 'er done, Woody.
Get 'er done, Woody.
As has been seen this is patently untrue:
"Tonys V & M, Darmian, Shaw, Miki can all cross a ball"
Darmian can barely get over the half way line in most games.
"Tonys V & M, Darmian, Shaw, Miki can all cross a ball"
Darmian can barely get over the half way line in most games.
This guy...
We would be infinitely better off signing a new fullback to play behind Martial than we would be getting Perisic to play ahead of Darmian. If we really want width then that's what we should do.
No top team would tolerate a fullback as poor going forward as Darmian is and adding the limited Perisic to that flank would only exacerbate the weakness of it.
No top team would tolerate a fullback as poor going forward as Darmian is and adding the limited Perisic to that flank would only exacerbate the weakness of it.
1. Everyone plays these games. The stats hold up to most players.
2. Stats are very good for a LW
3. He carried on the brilliant form into 2 tournament finals, up against the WORLDS best players. He's not some fkat track bully. He kept his consistency regardless. I made that clear in the post.
4. I've SEEN him play very well for Croatia. I'm just using these stats to illustrate.
The natural replacement for Neymar.
What's weird is, Valencia looked like one of the best crosses of the ball in world football in 2009/10. feck knows what happened there.
Nah, that's Lingard.
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