Ivan Perisic

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We would be infinitely better off signing a new fullback to play behind Martial than we would be getting Perisic to play ahead of Darmian. If we really want width then that's what we should do.

No top team would tolerate a fullback as poor going forward as Darmian is and adding the limited Perisic to that flank would only exacerbate the weakness of it.
Do you not think that Mourinho is potentially planning to deplay 3-5-2, with Darmian filling in at LWB and LCB? In which case Perisic would be a perfect signing
 
Again, using stats against minnows like Malta and Azerbaijan does not give credit to your argument, albeit your opinion nonetheless. I really don't know anyone that gets excited about stats from the qualifying round. Even Welbeck is a qualifying round legend.

He scored the winning goals against both the Czech Republic and Spain at the actual tournament too be fair. He also had more assists in Italy than anyone in our team last season and scored more league goals than anyone apart from Ibra. It's absolutely mad that some think he wouldn't be an improvement on what we have.
 
We would be infinitely better off signing a new fullback to play behind Martial than we would be getting Perisic to play ahead of Darmian. If we really want width then that's what we should do.

No top team would tolerate a fullback as poor going forward as Darmian is and adding the limited Perisic to that flank would only exacerbate the weakness of it.

How do you know what kind of impact Perisic would have were he to join United.
I love the way people just decide how crap players will be before they join us.Matic being the finest example.Declining ability,no pace,not needed in Chelsea so why should we bother with him.2 games later and everyones raving about him,with good reason.

If we get Perisic he'll do exactly the same.
 
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He scored the winning goals against both the Czech Republic and Spain at the actual tournament too be fair. He also had more assists in Italy than anyone in our team last season and scored more league goals than anyone apart from Ibra. It's absolutely mad that some think he wouldn't be an improvement on what we have.


Being a standout player in a team that includes Mandzukic (Juve/Bayern), Modric (Real Madrid) and Rakitic (Barcelona), is not enough! We need a bigger, younger name!
 
How do you know what kind of impact Perisic would have were he to join United.
I love the way people just decide how crap players will be before they join us.Matic being the finest example.Declining ability,no pace,not needed in Chelsea so why should we bother with him.2 games later and everyones raving about him,with good reason.

If we get Perisic he'll do exactly the same.

You've just done the opposite and declared Perisic will be a success if he joins. Can I have a look at your crystal ball too?

Also let's not get ahead of ourselves. Matic has played one game.
 
Do you not think that Mourinho is potentially planning to deplay 3-5-2, with Darmian filling in at LWB and LCB? In which case Perisic would be a perfect signing

I seriously doubt that we'll go down that direction (thankfully). It works at Chelsea because they still have a great front three (with an elite player in the mix at that). It wouldn't work here.

How do you know what kind of impact Perisic would have were he to join United.
I love the way people just decide how crap players will be before they join us.Matic being the finest example.Declining ability,no pace,not needed in Chelsea so why should we bother with him.2 games later and everyones raving about him,with good reason.

If we get Perisic he'll do exactly the same.

It's not a particularly bold prediction to suggest that a relatively average, old fashioned winger isn't going to become a 'superstar' game changer for a struggling team.

We have enough hard working, athletic, play the percentages types as it is. What we actually need is our own 'Hazard' or 'Sanchez' type and that certainly isn't Perisic.
 
In a lot of ways yes. Not in the attacking areas though or for developing players.
He did fine with Madrid in an attacking sense when they scored about 120 goals in a season. He's had seasons at Chelsea where they broke the points record in a single season and scored goals galore.

It's very naive to say he lacks in the attacking areas.
 
He did fine with Madrid in an attacking sense when they scored about 120 goals in a season. He's had seasons at Chelsea where they broke the points record in a single season and scored goals galore.

It's very naive to say he lacks in the attacking areas.

He simply had better players than he does here in those positions I don't really see that as a way of justifying the point. Poch would have us playing much better football than we currently do, I still wouldn't swap him for Mourinho because to me winning is the most important thing. I just wish Mourinho was more capable of improving and developing individuals attacking play to the extent other coaches seem to be able to do.
 
He simply had better players than he does here in those positions I don't really see that as a way of justifying the point. Poch would have us playing much better football than we currently do, I still wouldn't swap him for Mourinho because to me winning is the most important thing. I just wish Mourinho was more capable of improving and developing individuals attacking play to the extent other coaches seem to be able to do.
The point I was trying to make was that he doesn't lack in the attacking areas like you put it in one of your earlier posts. Because he decides to play in a certain way doesn't mean he lacks anything in a attacking sense.
 
He wants to stay there, otherwise he would have refused to train and play (like did Kondogbia)
 
Watching him in a friendly against Real Betis now and the amount of crosses he gets in either from the lw (first half) or the rw (second half) is impressive, also the quality of his delivery is way beyond anything we currently have. I think he is right footed, but you really can't tell since he is as ambidextrous as they come.

Reckon the deal is off though, no news and the fact that he has played all the minutes in all their friendlies including this one suggest that they are preparing for a season with him.
 
He wants to stay there, otherwise he would have refused to train and play (like did Kondogbia)

I don't understand your logic, first, not all players are as unprofessional as Kondogbia.
and second, i'll cite you just De gea and Mahrez from the top of my head of players that wanted to leave and played like the professionals they are.
 
The way the market is quickly developing, if we really want him we should pay what Inter are asking.

It seems it'll fast become an ordeal to sign any player, and value-for-money is almost impossible to quantify.
 
Being a standout player in a team that includes Mandzukic (Juve/Bayern), Modric (Real Madrid) and Rakitic (Barcelona), is not enough! We need a bigger, younger name!

No man, people just want a younger name...forget the "bigger" part.
Buying a player in his prime is frowned upon, in this place.
 
Watching him in a friendly against Real Betis now and the amount of crosses he gets in either from the lw (first half) or the rw (second half) is impressive, also the quality of his delivery is way beyond anything we currently have. I think he is right footed, but you really can't tell since he is as ambidextrous as they come.

Reckon the deal is off though, no news and the fact that he has played all the minutes in all their friendlies including this one suggest that they are preparing for a season with him.
I watched the game and was surprised some of the rough challenges the Betis players were putting on him. He played well considering it was an awful pitch.
 
Do you not think that Mourinho is potentially planning to deplay 3-5-2, with Darmian filling in at LWB and LCB? In which case Perisic would be a perfect signing

Darmian isn't a wingback on the right and certainly not on the left, he just doesn't have enough (or anything) in his attacking game to be effective there. Perisic as far as i know has never played as a wing back either.

I hope we are not going to be using 352 regularly beyond the odd game here and there.
 
The only bad thing about this is we dragged it for so long because we didn't want to pay but I fully expect us to pay +45m for him at the end and we'll even get him late.

Still a very good player that'll improve us heavily in an area we certainly lack this kind of player in it.
 
No man, people just want a younger name...forget the "bigger" part.
Buying a player in his prime is frowned upon, in this place.

Why don't we just sign Dembele man? All we need to do is offer 200 million euros and he's ours!
 
If that who Mou wants, then I'm all for it. Just wrap it up already.

That's exactly how I look at this transfer.
I also think that our left hand side is weak. Sure Martial can dribble, but he struggles to cross and with 2 big target men (Lukaku/Ibra), we need someone who has the ability to cross a ball.
 
Who knew a drawn-out transfer saga involving a decent squad player could be so underwhelming?
 
Signing someone just for the sake of signing another player aint going to help us either.
That's not the case here, is it? Clearly Mourinho wants a player on the wing. Perisic may not be the only option, but still for the best interest of the team, that signing is being considered. It's not like we have a budget & we're bored trying to spend the remaining of said budget despite already got all our targets in.
 
Not long ago a certain Sadio Mane wasn't deemed good enough for us.
Yes a then 24 year old who has much more potential, proven in the premier league, younger, more versatile and a more pacey winger/inside forward is the same as a 28 year old who has just had his most productive season in his career playing in top flight Europe and who isnt going to improve on his game much more after this.
 
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