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i watched him a lot in Bundesliga games, for Dortmund and Wolfsburg.
Ivan Perisic
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I don't understand this comment. I would be happy if he signed on the last day of the transfer window.
Yes I understand that but it seems we have experts on here who haven't watched him play consistently in his time at Inter completely contadicting regular SerieA observers.
It's like seeing one Perisic discussed here and a completely different one disscussed there.
Very well explained. All everyone seems to be suggesting is inside forwards and unrealistic signings. This guy will come and will be expected to have an instant impact similar to Matic. We have no width on the left hand side, combine that with the fact that we have Darmian as LB, our left side is pretty much non existent.
How is Lemar an unrealistic target? 
Arsenal are the best rival for his signature. It's not like we can't compete with them both on the pitch and financially.
Arsenal are the best rival for his signature. It's not like we can't compete with them both on the pitch and financially.MBappe may now leave. If that's the case I doubt Monaco in the last month of transfer window would allow this big of Exodus since they have no time to turn thing over. Ligue 1 already started.How is Lemar an unrealistic target?
Playing style, Lemar is different profile of player.
How is Lemar an unrealistic target?
Why do people talk like Lemar has already agreed basically to sign for Arsenal?
My point is it doesn't seem that Real/Barca/Bayern etc are in for Lemar - clubs that can outbid us or are more favorable destination at the moment.
Monaco would sell him if we offer high enough bid IMO. Even if they sell both Lemar and Mbappe they have plenty of time to get a replacement.They usually sell a ton of players each window btw.
How is Lemar an unrealistic target?
You realize Arsenal failed to sign him right ? They offered many offers and all got refuses. If there was a chance of him leaving he would have been in Arsenal now and they have zero competition from any other team during summer.
Fabinho and Lemar are going to stay this season.
But that's not how it works in FM or FIFA, so people feel very entitled to act in the know then bash United when any talented player goes somewhere else besides United because there aren't any other club worth transfering to.
Well they rejected 60m euros. How much should we spend on him? 80m? Despite what most think we don't have unlimited money, Glazers wont let us spend 300m we aren't bankrolled by billionaires
If there is another target, we better move on. I dont think this will go to deadline day anyway
I watched Inter last year quite a bit due to Banega (with him leaving to Sevilla I probably won't watch them as much this year) and he's never impressed me. I've always seen him as an average player.
Care to sum up what's being said from people who watches Serie A? Curious as I've barely seen him and the doom crowd on here describes him as a defensive winger.
@el3mel just said it, but I want to expand. What you heard is rumor to fill the paper. We don't know for certain, but the sign shows that Monaco is limiting their selling as they make enough money. Yes they sold ton of players here &a there but they only sell when they feel they have sufficient replacement & they have enough for what they are aiming for. For example. Martial was not for sale until they couldn't make it into CL. Without CL they could sell him for a good fee as they should be strong enough to achieve their goal while having MBappe to develop.
I repeat Monaco actually has plan. They don't batshit crazy sell their team to barebone just for the money reason alone. In case MBappe transfer is inevitable given the unrefusable fee, then pretty much the door would be shut for other outgoing.
Well the Glazers are actually billionaires.
Our financial turn over is either rivaled or better than any sports franchise in the world. We could afford to spend £300m tempting Paul Parker out of retirement if we wanted to.
Malcolm was worth about 4b. His kids obviously aren't, since he had 6 of them.
They don't bankroll us, though.
The Glazers don't bankroll the club, all the money we spend is our own. Our revenue is unrivalled but is nothing compared to the £15bn wealth of the Emiratis and Qataris, City and PSG can spend because they aren't spending their own money. Teams like us, Bayern and Madrid are absolutely not spending 300m a summer. Our revenue is 500m a year and we spend most of that on wages, where people get the idea that we can just spend whatever we want I don't know.
Frankly people complain that we overspend then they want us to pay 80m for Lemar, ridiculous, he's worth that much just as much as Perisic is worth 50m
We actually are.
Regardless of our owners United generate an awful amount of money and are perfectly capable of spending 200-300m to get back on top.
They feel he'll be a very good signing for us and really bolster our attack.
Cheers.
Our annual turnover is 500m and we spend 200m of that on wages alone. Last year we made a 50m profit, therefore if we doubled our summer spend (from 150m to 300m) we'd make a 100m loss, is that really realistic? Even if we spread the costs over a number of years that's not sustainable because we're still paying off previous years transfers so it all adds up.
I don't think we can easily spend as much as people think.
They haven't though. I don't think there's been one actual conventional left-winger mentioned in any discussion.
Plenty of right-wingers, attacking midfielders and left wing-forwards - which we aren't looking for.
I don't understand why so many people still aren't getting it: 'why are we signing Perisic, there are better players than Perisic' - we're looking for a Perisic-style player and he's the best one.
All transfer sums are not paid in bulk or cash as you said. They are usually spread through several seasons. With Ibra and Rooney leaving we have massive difference in wages compared to last year which we got off the books.
We have sold players so that profit is spread through the years as well and the net loss is much less than people think of.
We also have CL football this year which is massive boost to our finances - both on the pitch and in terms of TV rights.
I don't think they will reject a 80-90m EUR bid for Lemar tbh. Every player has his price and since we're ready to pay the quoted fee for Perisic(or 6-10m less) when you consider Lemar's talent and even current profile I'd say the above figures aren't that unrealistic for us.
It makes sense to buy him as an asset. Even if it doesn't work as planned we could still recoup large part of the money when he's 25/26.
Out of the two Lemar and Mbappe I think it's clear that for them Mbappe is the bigger asset so if they want to keep someone probably it would be him tbh.
Barca are in for Lemar and would suit playing for them than be shunted out wide at United.
So if we're still paying off transfers from the last 5 seasons you don't think that all adds up?
We've spent 425m net in the last 5 years, if we spread that over 5 seasons thats 85m a year. If we spend 300m this year thats another 60m a year which would take it to something around 130m a year. So really it's like we aren't spreading anything because it adds up almost to 150m a year anyway. We can't really afford that if we've only been making 50m profit based off 500m revenue. Maybe this summer sure but after this summer we definitely could not have another 200m/300m spend, so it makes sense to reign it in, especially if we're going to spend it on players like Lemar (he's good but definitely not worth 80m+).
It matters of opinion. IMO they don't have sell even at your price. Losing too many players they would end up several level behind they're now which put them in an easy situation to both get replacement &i getting high price. I meant look at it this way. Monaco without CL would mean they lose out cheap source of talent to the like of Dortmund. Without CL, the players would be more adamant to move. Look at this case, Lemar may have a second thought about playing CL with Monaco instead of hastily moving to play EL with Arsenal which posed many risks before a WC. Monaco still had many power to persuade Lemar to stay so he can make a case to getting a good reputation for France squad for the WC. Without CL, Lemar would more likely to entertain the move, thus Monaco would end up getting less money. Look on a scale of a squad, it is more bigger loss that way than gaining from selling too much now.
You can argue Lemar may not account for less fee next summer, but as I explained achieving some objective would mean healthier situation as a whole. Lemar is young so they're not too worried about he wouldn't get interest in the future past this summer.
MBappe case is different. He is supposed to have talent to reach top tier which outgrow Monaco ambition. Monaco unlikely to be able to grow that let him develop so he can break the world record fee when he moves club. I meant in a sense, his potential is not fully realized at Monaco however thy tried. At the rumor price, it's pretty much paying the maximum fee for potential category compared to world record fee; as part of the fee would be used to replace Mbappe, while the excess paid toward Mbappe's untapped potential is used toward upgrading the team altogether. With Lemar, properly replacing him would eat up the fee.
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So the step up from Buli was insignificant. I thought so.
That's like saying that if we are looking for a Fellaini-style player, Fellaini is the best.
For that you need a manager with zero honours on his C.V
I see you watched quite a bit of him in Germany but I didn't ever watch him for Dortmund/Wolfsburg bar a couple or so games. Certainly not enough to form an opinion on him. At Inter, though, I did watch them/him quite a bit and, whilst I'd prefer him on the left to Darmian, it is annoying we've seemed to waste a large portion of the window chasing him for me as I don't rate him highly at all.
You weren't a fan of his in Germany then?
Well said, esp part in bold. I am of the same view, that Perisic will help stretch the game wider, opening up more pockets for the other players to operate in the middle. It gives the team a lot more balance as opposed to signing another inside forward.
My concern though is perisic will do exactly that, but fans will turn on him seeing that he does not put up the numbers. The atmosphere can be quite toxic for him.
I seen him a few times for croatia, one other time and last week against chelsea for Inter, this was the first since his link to us. He was very good.
Knew his game, clever and defended well caused problems in attack. Took his goal well and nearly sneaked another. This boy would be a good addition to the squad and just like Jose says would add an extra dimension to our attack.
He did play for my team, Dortmund. He complained to the press heavily at the end for Klop's favoritism. He was ok for Wolfsburg, but nothing spectacular.
This one is not going to happen now I don't think. Our business is done for this summer.
Just an update since this thread has reached 229 pages 
According to Di Marzio, United made a initial offer to inter in June(€30M), which was turned down. And that's it. No more offers. United are interested and the player is interested in united, but there's been absolutely nothing going on since June
According to Di Marzio, United made a initial offer to inter in June(€30M), which was turned down. And that's it. No more offers. United are interested and the player is interested in united, but there's been absolutely nothing going on since June
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