Ivan Perisic

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MThomas said:
Perisic isn't even likely to play each week, which has already been pointed out, more as an option depending on opponent. Willian had been signed six months earlier and was hardly mint at the time considering the fee they had spent on him, don't really see how it's so unlikely that Cuadrado was brought in to compete for a first team spot (apart from you claiming otherwise though).

Either way it doesn't matter if he was brought in to be a backup, tea maker, to have a bit of a gobble on someones testicle or first choice, the point was that Mourinho wanted to sign him and he was utter dross and had to be shipped out after half a season. Perisic being mint just because Mourinho wants him isn't much of an argument. It's perfectly normal to be skeptic about spending such an insane amount of money, even in todays market, for a player like Perisic.
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You are pretty thick yourself aren't you. Every player was brought in to compete for a first team spot but that's just common reason. There is always main reason why the manager is targeting the player and set different expectation to each of them.

Jose has settle his main wingers at that time which was Willian and Hazard. The main purpose of signing Cuadrado was a replacement of Schürrle, if Schürrle didn't leave the club there is no way Jose wanted to sign Cuadrado.

While Jose's main expectation on Perisic is that he wants him to improve the left winger spot in our XI. Whether Martial or the other attacking midfielder leave or stay Jose will still wants Perisic. Completely different reason why Jose wants Perisic and why Jose wanted Cuadrado.

MThomas said:
Ofcourse we signed him to be a key player, he had been mint for Brazil and looked like he was going to be a solid player for the future

Ferguson said: "We're delighted Kleberson is joining us because we've been chasing him for quite a few months.

"He played in the World Cup final for Brazil, and his then coach Phil Scolari said he was first choice every time in the team.

"The new Brazilian coach Parreira says the same. He is a young, athletic midfield player who can play in a number of positions.

"One of the reasons we sold Seba Veron was because we knew we were getting Kleberson - that shows how highly we regard his talent."
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It doesn't look to me from those quote he was signed to be a key player. You are very deluded if you think so. Clearly from those quotes he signed him not to be key player just some young prospect.

I know you have a rough time but don't be deluded by saying the purpose of us signed Kleberson was to be a key player and don't keep make false statement if I actually ever mention Kleberson was signed as simply a backup or to help Ronaldinho settle in because I don't remember I did.
 
MThomas said:
You certainly didn't say anything to disagree with the claim that he was Signed to help Ronaldinho settle in.

Where did i say anything about scholes and Keane ? Fergie made a veron reference
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Why do I need to disagree? I don't want to be involved in another Kleberson discussion with another person.

Being a key player is pretty sure means that he can take Scholes and Keane spot mate. "Key player", very amusing.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
He has a medical scheduled for tomorrow. £36m for a 23 year old with serious pace and athleticism is far more shrewd than a 28 year old for close to £50m.

Both Perisic and Bernardeschi had their first significant seasons in Serie A last season. Signing Bernardeschi from another Serie A club in Fiorentina was a far tougher task but they managed it. Surely Fiorentina would rather have sold him abroad than strengthen another domestic team. In my eyes it would have been a no brainer to go for him.
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Fiorentina are not cash rich therefore it was not as had a task as being Manchester United trying to get a player from Inter who they do not want to sell add to the equation new wealthy owners. So no I don't get your point that it was shrewd business. No one abroad wanted him.
 
GM K said:
What a thread.

I hope that if we do sign Perisic and he does well for us, those who have called him average or predicted he will be a bad purchase, will be humble enough to come to the caf, admit they were wrong and apologise.

On the other hand, if we do get him and he flops, I hope those who have been argueing that he will be a super buy will come here, admit they were wrong and apologize.

Wouldn't want anyone 'hiding' after sounding like the world's number one expert on Perisic, would we?
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I'm going to call it, he could be great, average or terrible or somewhere around there!
 
Mike09 said:
Why do I need to disagree? I don't want to be involved in another Kleberson discussion with another person.
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Well you certainly implied that he was correct..But it's good to see that you disagree with it now.

Mike09 said:
Being a key player is pretty sure means that he can take Scholes and Keane spot mate. "Key player", very amusing.
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Where have i said anything about Scholes and Keane ?
 
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Mike09 said:
You are pretty thick yourself aren't you. Every player was brought in to compete for a first team spot but that's just common reason. There is always main reason why the manager is targeting the player and set different expectation to each of them.
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So now you've gone from him being a simple backup to him being there to compete for a first team spot. Good to see you agree with me.


Mike09 said:
Jose has settle his main wingers at that time which was Willian and Hazard. The main purpose of signing Cuadrado was a replacement of Schürrle, if Schürrle didn't leave the club there is no way Jose wanted to sign Cuadrado.
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Willian wasn't creative enough, Mourinho hoped Cuadrado could offer the same workrate but more creativity. Schurrle wasn't good enough.


Mike09 said:
While Jose's main expectation on Perisic is that he wants him to improve the left winger spot in our XI. Whether Martial or the other attacking midfielder leave or stay Jose will still wants Perisic. Completely different reason why Jose wants Perisic and why Jose wanted Cuadrado.
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The only difference is just the side he plays on
Mike09 said:
It doesn't look to me from those quote he was signed to be a key player. You are very deluded if you think so. Clearly from those quotes he signed him not to be key player just some young prospect.
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Well, if it doesn't look that way to you.

Mike09 said:
I know you have a rough time but don't be deluded by saying the purpose of us signed Kleberson was to be a key player and don't keep make false statement if I actually ever mention Kleberson was signed as simply a backup or to help Ronaldinho settle in because I don't remember I did.
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This sentence doesnt sense make much
 
I cannot understand why we are after a 28 year old winger when we already have Martial. Wingers rely on pace and as a28 year old he will have maximum 2 seasons where he will retain his pace and after that he will start to decline and expect us to pay £ 48 million!!!!

I think these rumours are being circulated by parties who have vested interests.

I think this will be doing the rounds like the Gaitan rumours.
 
At this stage, I'd guess that Mourinho would take Perisič over even Sanchez or Hazard, due to this whole business about his 'style'. Every alternative has been dismissed on here because they play differently to Perisič. There are some amazing wide men who play differently to Perisič.
 
Rozay said:
At this stage, I'd guess that Mourinho would take Perisič over even Sanchez or Hazard, due to this whole business about his 'style'. Every alternative has been dismissed on here because they play differently to Perisič. There are some amazing wide men who play differently to Perisič.
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Probably over Hazard since I'm sure there's resentment there.
 
MANUTD1993 said:
I cannot understand why we are after a 28 year old winger when we already have Martial. Wingers rely on pace and as a28 year old he will have maximum 2 seasons where he will retain his pace and after that he will start to decline and expect us to pay £ 48 million!!!!

I think these rumours are being circulated by parties who have vested interests.

I think this will be doing the rounds like the Gaitan rumours.
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I suspect that we won't be signing him... but as to your question about martial I wonder if Jose is considering using him through the middle sometimes and hence another wing option is something he is looking at?
 
No way this signing happens.

Been dragged out far too long and far too much $ being quoted for a decent winger.
 
Rozay said:
At this stage, I'd guess that Mourinho would take Perisič over even Sanchez or Hazard, due to this whole business about his 'style'. Every alternative has been dismissed on here because they play differently to Perisič. There are some amazing wide men who play differently to Perisič.
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The main worry would be Mourinho preparing a fit to measure tactical changes expecting Griezmann, this Croatian, and Lindelöf (the midfielder was never that clear)... and just getting one of them. This type of winger just adds variety while maintaining Martial as an option.
 
Dominos said:
We conceded 29 goals... We finished 6th because our attack wasn't good enough.
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but you look at the start of the season when we where really strugglinh we didnt play a defesive midfilder and left a massive gap infront of the defences for that teams exploited, Mourinho countered this by by simply packing our half with players, i think you play a dedicated quality defensive midfielder, instead of a male shift one then it will give your attacking players the freedom to push on.

but thats just my thoughts
 
LawCharltonBest said:
If Mourinho thinks he'll improve the team and feels he needs a player like him to get the best out of the group, then wouldn't you prefer he gets his man?
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I still don't and probably never will. If Perisic signs, I'll support him and congratulate him if he plays well but as long as he isn't our player, I'll keep hoping we don't sign him.
 
Juventus picked up both Douglas Costa and Bernardeschi and we still seem to be focused on solely Perisic. I don't understand this
 
Every time I watch Lingard and Martial out wide I pray that we manage to get Perisic. A decent winger in the team would be so refreshing.
 
I don't believe for one second we don't have a backup plan for Perisic, the fact we don't have a clue who it is is quite encouraging if you think about it. It means they're intentionally keeping it on the down low. That's what I'm praying for anyway :lol:
 
luke511 said:
I don't believe for one second we don't have a backup plan for Perisic, the fact we don't have a clue who it is is quite encouraging if you think about it. It means they're intentionally keeping it on the down low. That's what I'm praying for anyway :lol:
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Well if we do have a back up plan, I hope it's better than the rumoured back up plan for Pogba last summer...Matuidi.
 
djdhrubs said:
Well if we do have a back up plan, I hope it's better than the rumoured back up plan for Pogba last summer...Matuidi.
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Back up plan has to be someone like Lemar or Mahrez. But there could be about 20 wingers who would have a similar impact on the team as Perisic.
 
ravi2 said:
Juventus picked up both Douglas Costa and Bernardeschi and we still seem to be focused on solely Perisic. I don't understand this
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For about 60m too, close to the rumoured price for Perisic. It's truly incredible how poor we are sometimes at finding quality players at low cost.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Every time I watch Lingard and Martial out wide I pray that we manage to get Perisic. A decent winger in the team would be so refreshing.
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Perisic seems to have become a totally different player altogether since being linked to us.
 
ravi2 said:
Juventus picked up both Douglas Costa and Bernardeschi and we still seem to be focused on solely Perisic. I don't understand this
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Just wait till Lindelhack play against them. He's the personification of the red wedding.
 
I'm surprised at how many people are actually satisfied with what we have. Our problems from last season have barely been addressed despite everyone complaining each and every match. Some people seem to have a very short memory. Let's not forget we are without many players through injury as well. We really should be pursuing another defensive midfielder, winger and left back.
 
Mainoldo said:
Fiorentina are not cash rich therefore it was not as had a task as being Manchester United trying to get a player from Inter who they do not want to sell add to the equation new wealthy owners. So no I don't get your point that it was shrewd business. No one abroad wanted him.
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Barca were rumored to be in for him. Pre-Neymar debacle.
 
MANUTD1993 said:
I cannot understand why we are after a 28 year old winger when we already have Martial. Wingers rely on pace and as a28 year old he will have maximum 2 seasons where he will retain his pace and after that he will start to decline and expect us to pay £ 48 million!!!!

I think these rumours are being circulated by parties who have vested interests.

I think this will be doing the rounds like the Gaitan rumours.
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Because Mourinho.

The man has a spotty record when dealing with wingers and even spottier record when nurturing and developing young players. He's a chequebook manager, albeit a very good one.
 
This guy is nothing special. The only reason we are entertaining Inter , I think, is because Mourinho has mentioned him as his first choice.

I believe we will move on to other targets roughly after a week or two, if we feel that we are not making much headway in our negotiations with Inter and I don't feel that will be too bad for us. This is, of course, assuming that all this is not a big smokescreen for some other player we are in negotiations with currently.
 
Suedesi said:
Because Mourinho.

The man has a spotty record when dealing with wingers and even spottier record when nurturing and developing young players. He's a chequebook manager, albeit a very good one.
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Rubbish. Wonder why people don't do their math before posting something as if they know it for a fact?
 
€50M plus Martial on loan is ludicrous, and we are not good enough in attacking depth to loan anyone out, we need to add.
 
Can someone broaden my view on this persistent pursuant target? I don't think there was ever a team that Mou's has managed before that required an out and out winger who's main job is whipping in crosses.
 
Isotope said:
Can someone broaden my view on this persistent pursuant target? I don't think there was ever a team that Mou's has managed before that required an out and out winger who's main job is whipping crosses.
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He's consistent and a slightly different option to what we have in attack, kind of like a mkhitaryan purchase last season.

Also at an age jose likes to work with and thinks players are mature enough to follow tactics perfectly.
 
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