Ivan Perisic

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I won't mind even Utd paying 50 million pound for Perisic if that means shit Lingard will stay out of the team.

Lingard just signed a new contract last year so it looks like you're going to be watching him for the next 4 years at least. Best get used to him being part of our plans.
 
I won't mind even Utd paying 50 million pound for Perisic if that means shit Lingard will stay out of the team.
You need to give your head a good shake.

The very same manager gave Lingard a 4 year contract who is supposedly interested in Perisic. They're also very different players.
 
But surely even if one thinks they know better than Mourinho, they are not the manager and thus have no idea how the player is going to be potentially utilised? It's fine having an opinion based on watching the player but it's strange to me to be so much against a signing that the manager and the club obviously want. Perisic cleary isn't an all around world class player but he would bring in some qualities that we don't have and would give us more options. The price is too high but if the manager wants him because he sees him playing an important role for us, it's fine with me.

It really really isn't. Plenty of managers have been known to obsess about average players for whatever reason. Were you as open minded as that when Moyes wanted to bring Fellaini like that ?
 
Disagree. Our problem last year was converting our domination into goals and wins against the smaller teams. In those games we played without DM anyway and the 2 CMs were playing quite advanced. The problem was having players that could stretch the opposition. Having a DM against Stoke, WBA and Wolves at Old Trafford is not going to help you. For me, someone to provide width on the left is the more important transfer, especially as Pereira is showing signs of quality in CM.

But then opinions and all that. Each has their own.
I am with you here. If we're to pick between DM & winger, then winger should be the priority. To advance to the next step we need to turn those draws to wins. For some unconvential tactic, Lindelof has the quality to step up into midfield to negate the need for DM while our left back like Blind or Darmian can sit back, & stay narrow.

Of course I am not saying Perisic is a must at all cost.
 
It really really isn't. Plenty of managers have been known to obsess about average players for whatever reason. Were you as open minded as that when Moyes wanted to bring Fellaini like that ?
Yes actually. The difference is, I didn't trust Moyes who had never won anything in his career anywhere near as much as I trust Mourinho, one of the best and most successful managers around. Still never wanted Fellaini but Moyes did work with him and the transfer kinda made sense although it was way too expensive. It hasn't turned out great but it's hardly one of the worst transfers ever. I don't really believe top managers obsessing over average players "for no reason". IMO it's more of a case of them wanting a player with specific qualities, who otherwise isn't really world class, and sometimes it just doesn't work out.

I have watched Perisic more than most people here although the money is crazy I can see why we would be interested. I guess I have faith more thought has gone into scouting him than "I've watched this player a few times and he's OK" or "I've watched him and he's rubbish".
 
Yes actually. The difference is, I didn't trust Moyes who had never won anything in his career anywhere near as much as I trust Mourinho, one of the best and most successful managers around. Still never wanted Fellaini but Moyes did work with him and the transfer kinda made sense although it was way too expensive. It hasn't turned out great but it's hardly one of the worst transfers ever. I don't really believe top managers obsessing over average players "for no reason". IMO it's more of a case of them wanting a player with specific qualities, who otherwise isn't really world class, and sometimes it just doesn't work out.

I have watched Perisic more than most people here although the money is crazy I can see why we would be interested. I guess I have faith more thought has gone into scouting him than "I've watched this player a few times and he's OK" or "I've watched him and he's rubbish".

Your post makes sense and I hope you're right if he does come here. I know I've watched enough to think that he won't improve us much. No one knows for sure.
We should sign players of true world class potential or players already confirmed at the highest for me and he isn't either.
 
Seems to be Perisic or nobody for the wing position.

I can't say that I'm a fan of this guy, as I hadn't even heard of him a few months back, but if he's the player Mourinho wants them we need to sign him.
 
Looks likely that we are going to leave this in the cold atleast for some time till Inter lower their demands.
 
Seems to be Perisic or nobody for the wing position.

I can't say that I'm a fan of this guy, as I hadn't even heard of him a few months back, but if he's the player Mourinho wants them we need to sign him.
I'd never heard of him tbh. You'd think some posters have watched every game in his career from some stuff in here.
 
Why do people take Di Marzio's word as oath?

What would an Argentinian journalist know about a Serbian winger joining an English club?
 
He clearly knows more than you if you think Perisic is Serbian.


Or that Di Marzio is Argentinian.

Or that he wouldn't know what is going on, at an Italian club.

Di Marzio is Italian. Perisic plays in Italy (and is Croatian, not Serbian).

That was too easy!

I did think about saying "a club in the north east" as well, but thought 3 whoppers might make me a bit too transparent.
 
Lingard just signed a new contract last year so it looks like you're going to be watching him for the next 4 years at least. Best get used to him being part of our plans.

I think everyone accepts he will be here for a few years but theres nothing wrong with hoping it's only in a support role ass opposed to basically a regular in the side last year. Lingard has the ability to be a decent impact player off the bench or for certain games. But if he's a mainstay in the team again this season we are in trouble.
 
But surely even if one thinks they know better than Mourinho, they are not the manager and thus have no idea how the player is going to be potentially utilised? It's fine having an opinion based on watching the player but it's strange to me to be so much against a signing that the manager and the club obviously want. Perisic cleary isn't an all around world class player but he would bring in some qualities that we don't have and would give us more options. The price is too high but if the manager wants him because he sees him playing an important role for us, it's fine with me.

What if Mourinho wanted Crouch and we were quoted £60mill for him, maybe we should throw in Rashford as a part of it since it's a player that the manager obviously wants.
 
I can understand why Inter are asking for such a high fee tbh. He was one of their best players in the last two seasons. The deal wouldn't make sense for them if they weren't able to get adequate replacement for a comparable price. The way the market is at the moment, there's no value for money.

I think we should get this wrapped up quickly.
 
£40-50 million isn't sounding like such a bad price after seeing the Coutinho £100 million fee and Mbappe and Neymar €200 million valuations.

The whole fecking transfer market has gone completely batshit ducking crazy!
 
He is clearly our number 1 remaining target now. Think the need for a defensive minded midfielder is greater but anyway.
 
If jose accepted that he wants only 3 signings then we should pay that extra amount we were going to spend on 4th signing and pay inter the money they want without giving them martial (considering jose is so desperate for perisic).

Todays match against city showed how much we need someone who can deliver a cross. Lingard doesnt do it he just keeps coming inside with lukakus presence we need someone who delivers crosses even if it is cleared by defenders someone from midfield can get on to the second ball
 
People think we cant afford a fourth target because of a few million? :D

We could spend 200m if we want, but obviously the prices have to make sense. I dont see why we should settle on 3 signings when we can easily buy another DM for 40m
 
What if Mourinho wanted Crouch and we were quoted £60mill for him, maybe we should throw in Rashford as a part of it since it's a player that the manager obviously wants.

The guy has made a good point and you've made an outlandish comparison and seem like you don't even want to consider his point in a sensible way.
 
What if Mourinho wanted Crouch and we were quoted £60mill for him, maybe we should throw in Rashford as a part of it since it's a player that the manager obviously wants.

Agree 100% with your point.
 
What if Mourinho wanted Crouch and we were quoted £60mill for him, maybe we should throw in Rashford as a part of it since it's a player that the manager obviously wants.
That's a ridiculously exaggerated point. Obviously that would never happen because it's stupid. Wanting Perisic makes sense because he'll improve our team.
 
The very people asking clubs to pay crazy money for new toys will be the first to complain about Season ticket price hikes.
 
He's playing in a friendly match vs Schalke 04 now.
 
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That's a ridiculously exaggerated point. Obviously that would never happen because it's stupid. Wanting Perisic makes sense because he'll improve our team.

The point is that quite a few have feck all knowledge about Perisic, but feels that it's extremely important that we spend whatever is needed to get him, because Mourinho wants to sign him and that makes him a crucial signing. So no, i don't think it's an exaggerated point, people in here didn't say a word about Perisic a year ago and now he's a critical player we just have to sign for £50mill, even if it takes sending Martial on loan to Inter.
 
The point is that quite a few have feck all knowledge about Perisic, but feels that it's extremely important that we spend whatever is needed to get him, because Mourinho wants to sign him and that makes him a crucial signing. So no, i don't think it's an exaggerated point, people in here didn't say a word about Perisic a year ago and now he's a critical player we just have to sign for £50mill, even if it takes sending Martial on loan to Inter.
Admittedly I havent read every post in this thread but I have yet to see a single person advocate that.
 
Our current options at left wing: Ashley Young, Martial, Rashford. We need more depth, and decent depth at that. Perisic isn't going to set the world alight but it stops us having to go to the likes of Stoke away with Young in the team because our other options are injured or played on Wednesday in the Champions League. He's no Gareth Bale but he's certainly not deadwood. Plus, who else is available? Lets take this squad building thing one step at a time shall we?
For 40 mil pounds there are at least 20-30 players that are better and would fit that bill. To buy a squad back-up for 40m is madness, never mind that the actual price is likely to be even higher.
And buying a washed-up player, who's at 28 ever impressed and his 'best' season came in a team that changed managers what like 5-6 times in the last year and a half. That tells you everything you need to know about Inter. They've been in worse crisis than MU under Moyes and that is some achievement.
We also have Lingard, who is a more of natural sub for Young and hardly a worse option that Perisic. And if we are going to play 3-5-2, then Perisic would be completely unnecessary altogether.
 
But it's been mentioned a few times.
Youre always going to get a few people with some pretty wacky ideas, the point is people may want Perisic but the massive, massive majority of people dont want him at the expense of Martial. Some people think Mourinho wanting him means we should throw an extra £10m or something at it to get it done, that is not really comparable.
 
If he's so good why aren't the top clubs in for him?

To be honest he seems like the exact same style as Martial. If we're gonna get a player like that we might as well just give Martial a chance this season. Mou clearly wants a different player who will offer something else to the team, I think if we signed Keita it would be another Memphis situation - left wing dribblers/cut in players are not flourishing in our team right now
Might be (another Memphis situation). But might be he will develop, at the very least he has a chance. Perisic is a waste of money from a get-go, hardly any average 28 years old success at top clubs and there have been enough examples.

I would stick with Martial, with Lingard and Rashford and option of playing with no wingers (3-5-2) at all, it's not like we need to pluck this hole. We also need to think about future. If we are to develop a team that can challenge for top titles, we need real quality. And wasting a lot of money for simple squad players, then makes it more difficult to acquire top talent. Or to risk on a promising youngster.
 
I'd never heard of him tbh. You'd think some posters have watched every game in his career from some stuff in here.

I'm 100% honest when I say I've seen alot of him. Watched games with him since he was a Torcida. Seen almost every game with him in the national team. He really isn't bad as some think he is, comparing him to Zaha and the likes. He is a fighter like Valencia but more technical and can play both wings since he's as good with his right foot as his left. But for the price reported I think we can get someone more long-term, I agree with that.
 
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