Ivan Perisic

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Cliche Guevara said:
I just don't understand this attitude at all. I mean, what do you think is going to happen if the manager doesn't get the player he wants? The player he thinks fits his system?

Is he going to log on here and message kouroux and ask who he should sign instead, and what system he should now play?

Why does anyone take pleasure in sabotaging their own manager? Why do people only want us to sign players that fit into the system they want us to play? People who aren't Man Utd manager. Or, indeed, a manager of anyone.
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wtf...
I'm just a poster on a message, my view is what it is. I can express if I want or not and that's it, I don't expect anything other than that. Mourinho will do what he wants, we don't necessarily have to like everything but hope it can work out in the end. Taking pleasure in sabotaging the manager :lol::wenger: ? Is this what skepticism is called now. Any player is a gamble, I've never rated Perisic my entire life but if he becomes a United I will support him. It's called nuances.

Ban said:
To people hoping we don't get him. Be sure not to moan about how we lack options out wide if we don't buy any winger at all .
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Not buying him and not buying anybody aren't exclusively related. If we get him, I'll support him, if we buy somebody else I'll support that player. If we get nobody then it won't good for the club.
 
Castia said:
Just like we didn't have a alternative plan for Morata?

You honestly think all our eggs are in 1 basket? It's Perasic or nobody? Good lord.

There's nobody in world football who can do what Parasic does, sign him up!!!!
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From the looks of it Morata wasn´t our first choice we signed our fist choice. So...
 
Ban said:
To people hoping we don't get him. Be sure not to moan about how we lack options out wide if we don't buy any winger at all .
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Exactly, the people that actively don't want us to sign Perisic hopefully won't be moaning if we don't manage to sign a wide player or we are struggling for options out wide during the season. Can't see anyone who we could realistically sign who is better than him, not to say Perisic is a bad player.
 
People seem to forget that we've got relatively young offensive squad (Lukaku and Pogba both 24, Rashford 20, Martial 22, Lingard 25) plus Mkhitaryan has just played his first season in England - plenty of room for improvement from all these players.
Adding experienced 28yo sounds like reasonable thing to do, not to mention football qualities Jose especially likes in him.
 
kouroux said:
wtf...
I'm just a poster on a message, my view is what it is. I can express if I want or not and that's it, I don't expect anything other than that. Mourinho will do what he wants, we don't necessarily have to like everything but hope it can work out in the end. Taking pleasure in sabotaging the manager :lol::wenger: ? Is this what skepticism is called now. Any player is a gamble, I've never rated Perisic my entire life but if he becomes a United I will support him. It's called nuances.
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The point is you're hoping the transfer falls through, while our manager really wants to sign the player by all accounts.

It doesn't matter if you or I think he's shit. And we have a right to say we think he's shit. If the manager wants him, however, then he needs to get him and be judged on the results. Hoping the manager doesn't get the players he wants isn't going to get us anywhere.
 
arthurka said:
From the looks of it Morata wasn´t our first choice we signed our fist choice. So...
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Fair enough so what's to say Perasic is first choice? It's mainly being reported by British media who have been absolutely clueless this summer they had no clue about Lukaku and Lindelof and had us on the verge of Morata 10 times.
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
what times the plane?
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Well various accounts have said it's leaving this morning. So since it's now afternoon in UK, we can only assume it's in the air. Unless there's been a delay, caused by Jose arriving at the airport last minute romcom style to stop Ivan getting on board.
 
el3mel said:
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Round round Round we go, 2 steps forward, a nudge back, a shuffle sideways, a waltz around and and around. Almost there, oh back a bit, a skip and a jump and closer than ever. A trip backwards on to the arse, deal might be off... Oh and we have signed Maximo Aimar, some unknown superstar who is the next Ronaldo/Messi love child with Best hair cut.
 
Cliche Guevara said:
The point is you're hoping the transfer falls through, while our manager really wants to sign the player by all accounts.

It doesn't matter if you or I think he's shit. And we have a right to say we think he's shit. If the manager wants him, however, then he needs to get him and be judged on the results. Hoping the manager doesn't get the players he wants isn't going to get us anywhere.
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What kinda superpower do you think we have on here :lol: ? What I hope or don't means feck all, it's an opinion lost among million different ones in the web :lol:.
I don't rate him at all so this is why I don't want it to see it happening but I'm accepting it's getting done. It is as simple as that. He'll have my full support once he's a United. This is like when we signed Fellaini and we went trhough months of rumors after Moyes became the new manager, I still pointlessly hoped we wouldn't sign him but it happened and he has my support.
 
kouroux said:
What kinda superpower do you think we have on here :lol: ? What I hope or don't means feck all, it's an opinion lost among million different ones in the web :lol:.
I don't rate him at all so this is why I don't want it to see it happening but I'm accepting it's getting done. It is as simple as that. He'll have my full support once he's a United. This is like when we signed Fellaini and we went trhough months of rumors after Moyes became the new manager, I still pointlessly hoped we wouldn't sign him but it happened and he has my support.
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Why don't you like him though. The only thing poor about him is his inconsistency.
 
Maradona10 said:
Really thought if we had a saga it would be for a more "Wow" name than perisic. This is just tiresome and he doesnt seem to be worth this much effort.
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Agree with you, it's really boring and I doubt I'll be particularly disappointed if we don't sign him.

I am rather expecting this to be smoke screen for someone else, but no idea who the someone else might be, The French kid, Dembele perhaps?
 
Think he's pretty average, but we don't really have any wingers and if he's the best Jose thinks we can get then fair enough.
However, I'll be pretty gutted if Martial goes the other way (unless it's a loan). In fact I'd feel like they had our pants down.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Agree with you, it's really boring and I doubt I'll be particularly disappointed if we don't sign him.

I am rather expecting this to be smoke screen for someone else, but no idea who the someone else might be, The French kid, Dembele perhaps?
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If we sign dembele for 80 million in last minutes of transfer window after a very big "will he/wont he" saga with caf going into meltdown and causing she cannot take the strain captain when he signs a barca shirt , i would say it has been a worth it. Perisic i wouldnt waste more than a week, sign if you want or we go to next one. Levels.
 
Reading this thread is infuriating.

Every other post is somebody that has obviously watched perisic in depth (yeah ok) and think they know better than Jose.
 
kouroux said:
What kinda superpower do you think we have on here :lol: ? What I hope or don't means feck all, it's an opinion lost among million different ones in the web :lol:.
I don't rate him at all so this is why I don't want it to see it happening but I'm accepting it's getting done. It is as simple as that. He'll have my full support once he's a United. This is like when we signed Fellaini and we went trhough months of rumors after Moyes became the new manager, I still pointlessly hoped we wouldn't sign him but it happened and he has my support.
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Come off it! You know how Jose hangs on your every word!! You're going to talk him out of signing a player that we need, just because you don't like him? Think of his poor family. Think of his career FFS! Don't do this to him :(
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Reading this thread is infuriating.

Every other post is somebody that has obviously watched perisic in depth (yeah ok) and think they know better than Jose.
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I've never watched Perisic, but it's obvious he isn't United standards..... Others have said so.... Who also haven't watched him.... And even those that have are not football coaches.... So yeah that's that. Sack Giggs, 4 game ban for Evra.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Reading this thread is infuriating.

Every other post is somebody that has obviously watched perisic in depth (yeah ok) and think they know better than Jose.
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People are allowed to have a different opinion on a football forum, relax mate. You'll find it's quite common in fact and often leads to interesting debate. Some people don't particularly rate Perisic while others do, both parties have valid reasons from what I've read so there is nothing infuriating going on here. You'll have the odd poster who obviously exaggerates one way or the other but that's always the case. Can't always assume a certain person has not watched player x just because you don't agree with their analysis of that player.
 
Mainoldo said:
Why don't you like him though. The only thing poor about him is his inconsistency.
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I think he's a very average footballer in general. Ideally (I know we're not in a wonderland) we should sign players to take us forward, to help us compete with the best in England and Europe and I simply think he's not that player.

Von Mistelroum said:
Come off it! You know how Jose hangs on your every word!! You're going to talk him out of signing a player that we need, just because you don't like him? Think of his poor family. Think of his career FFS! Don't do this to him :(
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;)

El-Manos said:
People are allowed to have a different opinion on a football forum, relax mate. You'll find it's quite common in fact and often leads to interesting debate. Some people don't particularly rate Perisic while others do, both parties have valid reasons from what I've read so there is nothing infuriating going on here. You'll have the odd poster who obviously exaggerates one way or the other but that's always the case. Can't always assume a certain person has not watched player x just because you don't agree with their analysis of that player.
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Very wise words
 
I've grown completely indifferent to this transfer. The most boring transfer saga ever.

I do have doubts that he is a player we should be going all out for, based on admittedly limited information and some (poorly) educated assumptions, but we do need another body in attack and he seems to be our only target, so meh. Just have to accept that there are no players of the required quality realistically available and hope he surprises us doubters.
 
ChaddyP said:
Do you even remember Vidal and Sneijder :lol:
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At least with Vidal and Sneijder they were the best in their respective positions at the time. They were already world class at the time we were linked with them and everyone was excited.

With Perisic it's not as much of a superstar name, has average stats as a winger and a lot of posters couldn't care less if we missed out on him. At least with Vidal, Sneijder and Thiago there was immense excitement and anticipation, with Chilevision and people even zooming on messages written on footballs ("nos vamos en Manchester") then the entertaining meltdowns which followed. :lol:
 
Irrational. said:
At least with Vidal and Sneijder they were the best in their respective positions at the time. They were already world class at the time we were linked with them and everyone was excited.

With Perisic it's not as much of a superstar name, has average stats as a winger and a lot of posters couldn't care less if we missed out on him. At least with Vidal, Sneijder and Thiago there was immense excitement and anticipation, then the entertaining meltdowns which followed. :lol:
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Sounds like you need some excitement in your life.
 
Cliche Guevara said:
Wishing that our transfers fall through is nuts. Whether you like the player or not, whether you like the system or not. Wanting the manager's plans to be sabotaged is completely stupid just because people, themselves, would prefer to sign different players and play a different system.

If this one falls through I dread to think where we go from here, and how long it would take to sign an alternative. And how split opinion on that other player might be. This has gone on long enough as it is.

I get people have different opinions, and are right to express them, but actively wanting the manager's plans to fail is shitty and quite juvenile. Especially if it's on the basis of wanting to play an alternative system, or sign alternative players, that's never going to happen.
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There's nothing shitty or juvenile about it. There's an element of risk in it actually happening but the person holding that opinion obviously feels something good will come of the club going for someone else. He doesn't feel the managers plans will fail without this signing. No need to make a bigger deal out of his opinion. You make it sound like Mourinho's Manchester United and all it's hopes rest on this one player who nothing can click without.

Perisic may well be a great addition. And I think he looks a much better than he appears on the caf. But I don't think opinions like the ones you quoted are very extreme.
 
kouroux said:
wtf...
I'm just a poster on a message, my view is what it is. I can express if I want or not and that's it, I don't expect anything other than that. Mourinho will do what he wants, we don't necessarily have to like everything but hope it can work out in the end. Taking pleasure in sabotaging the manager :lol::wenger: ? Is this what skepticism is called now. Any player is a gamble, I've never rated Perisic my entire life but if he becomes a United I will support him. It's called nuances.



Not buying him and not buying anybody aren't exclusively related. If we get him, I'll support him, if we buy somebody else I'll support that player. If we get nobody then it won't good for the club.
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To some, not believing in a player means you will ruin his United career and you are the devil. You must get behind every decision on a message board as it will "create a negative atmosphere at the club." You must also NEVER EVER question the manager's decisions as it means you are not behind him, despite the fact that our fans were even applauding David Moyes when he was crap.

You've been warned.
 
Seeing how quickly some of the transfers are being done currently (by other teams like Bayern, Milan etc, also us with Lukaku) it could look like we are not that much interested in Perisic. He is not some superstar of Neymar or Pogba calibre for the transfer to take that long in case there is real interest from United. Something is just wrong here...
 
Castia said:
Just like we didn't have a alternative plan for Morata?

You honestly think all our eggs are in 1 basket? It's Perasic or nobody? Good lord.

There's nobody in world football who can do what Parasic does, sign him up!!!!
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Who is perasic and is his brother parasic?
 
Stacks said:
To some, not believing in a player means you will ruin his United career and you are the devil. You must get behind every decision on a message board as it will "create a negative atmosphere at the club." You must also NEVER EVER question the manager's decisions as it means you are not behind him, despite the fact that our fans were even applauding David Moyes when he was crap.

You've been warned.
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:nervous: ok, how foolish of me
 
Can't wait to get this over and done with.

I really like Perisic and think he will do well for us but wow has this dragged on.
 
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