Mourinho's insistence on this signing could end up being his undoing at this club especially at the prices being touted. If things go horribly wrong this player could be to him what Fellaini was to Moyes - a symbol of the rot. I feel this signing is a backward move in terms of football style and sophistication as it will set a ceiling on the heights to which this team will evolve and looking at the money invested at Mourinho's urging it will be something that hastens his United exit. You don't spend 300m on a 'park the bus, kick and rush' system and expect people to silently accept it.
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Creativity is not real problem. It's more about opening another dimension in team play, especially with Lukaku as the main forward.
So are you with the manager in saying that a £50m 28 year old with an underwhelming record to date is the best and only option for that? From a manager with Mourinho's experience and a scouting team at his disposal I'd expect better in terms of value and top level potential. Pulling shit like this makes you understand why Roman felt he had to step in because a deal like this should never be sanctioned by a competent chairman.
People keep harping on about this. What other player of similar qualities to Perisic is available? Keeping in mind it's obvious we need width and not another wide forward.
Just seen Inter have been linked with Balde Keita, if thats their Perisic replacement then they've got the better player out of this.
If I got paid to fly around the globe watching football players I would tell you but I don't and still doesn't mean I have to defer my opinion to someone who seems hell bent on wasting the club's money on an aging, average winger. I don't even mind having a limited winger who can work hard in side but come on City paid 10m less for Benardo Silva just a few months ago (not saying we should have signed him btw). If Inter don't want to lower the asking price then we should move on to a player whose value would reflect his current output and potential. If we go ahead with this then the prices we will get quoted next window will be even more insane its time to put a foot down.
It's such a depressing reflection on the mindset of the man. In charge of United, limitless funds and he's set on...Perisic.
Whipping in crosses to the big man, somewhere Sam Allardyce just broke out a bottle of lotion.
Silva is a completely different player to what we need in the side, though. I don't disagree that there is possibly better alternatives, but considering no-one can really name any player who can do what we expect, it's telling. We have signed big names constantly since SAF has left and for the most part they've been shite for us. Our fullbacks bar Valencia are shite, we have no players on either side of the field who provide width, instead every single one of them preferring to come central. We literally never have any width down that left side, opposition team marks Valencia's runs and we have no attacking outlet, constantly running into crowded areas in the middle of the pitch, rinse and repeat for 90 minutes.
I claimed as much before the season even ended, we needed to majorly improve our fullbacks or get in a proper winger. Yes Perisic isn't a flashy name, but if he does well for us, that's all that matters. Only other player available who provides width is Costa, who is a hot and cold player (we already have enough of those in the squad) who was being pursued by Juventus anyway. Dembele etc. aren't going to move yet, let alone to us.
We need to create a functional team, not sign every superstar available. For all we know, they had other priorities who didn't want to come to us, or who their club didn't want to sell. Madrid did the galatico policy for years and achieved feck all, it was only when they found some balance in the side that they started thriving and getting the best out of their players.
Yes. I am. Look around, 50mil is expensive, but not really outrageous for winger (there ain't many good ones, let alone one available). What @Womp said, who are other wingers with similar profile? That's your own expectation projecting about better value & potential while you can't agree with how Perisic become a main target for Mourinho. There are enough debate that Perisic being one of better winger at the moment.
Age is not always an only case to judge length of player's contribution. Jones, Ando & now Shaw have talent & age on their side, yet it can come to a point where there is doubt about possibility those players can fulfill their potential. There are many factors can affect a player career. Perisic pursuit is clearly to get thing going this coming season. It's not about signing a potential & wait few more years. There is long term planning, but dealing with what's coming is still the main focus of football. There is situation, you can't wait but to act accordingly.
Agree to disagree completely about Abramovic is justified acting the way he did. Support the board to sign dross like Baba, that now Sunderland CB. Suspect Salah, Cuarado were in the case too. We now know the board backed by Roman was the one who had the say in selling Lukaku, not as the narrative of Mourinho didn't give youth chance & wanted to sell Lukaku. How Chelsea supporting youth since Mourinho's sacking?
If its width that Mourinho wants then why doesn't he get an attacking LB to mirror Valencia on the left, a DM we already need anyway for extra security and spend our money on an actual match winner on the left? The thing with Perisic is that his current ability aint much and there is no apparent upside like Pogba/Martial to justify the huge outlay.
Feck this signing. Let Pereira have a go at LW.
So Jose takes all the credit for Chelsea' s good signings and the board carries the cane for all the dross, oh how convenient. Whilst ignoring the fact that Chelsea have signed good players before Jose came back (some of whom he hounded out) and are still signing good players after he's left. The fact that they have had poor buys is not perculiar to them because everyone has a mare in the market, we should know that looking at our record since Fergie left.
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That's a decision the club made, maybe they're expecting Shaw to improve? Who knows. There isn't many top LB's available anyway, apart from Mendy who looks like it's already done to City, I can't think of many.
It's a decision the club made, whether or not it pays off, we'll have to wait to see. Also, Perisic could play off the right, with Martial being our match winner.
This isn't a panic buy, considering we seem to have been interested since the window began, so the club have obviously done their research and have a plan for him.
Yet we are here, languishing in sixth place and missing CL football in two out of three seasons because of 'decisions that the club made' but we still have to defer to their superior wisdom? Why not demand they make better decisions?
What the absolute feck are you on about?
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No need to come off sounding high and mighty mate - by the time this window closes we would have spent £200m on new players in addition to the £150m that got poured into the side last year yet we look like we are spending all that on a more effective version of Moyes football. Pardon me but if doesn't work out many will be demanding answers and most will remember the moaning in the media and the instistence on this kind of signing; expensive but workmen like. For the figures being touted I'd expect more.
From what I've heard from SerieA followers and the little I've seen of Perisic I find some of the comments in this thread way of the mark regarding his ability.
People overreacting a bit here. Jose might see Perisic as a squad player to provide depth, competition to Martial. This should make perfect sense as he seems to be a different type of player and also much older.
Just forget the price aspect of it: why should we as fans care, and its not a given we will pay the price Inter is asking for basically to deter us from buying.
Just forget the price aspect of it: why should we as fans care, and its not a given we will pay the price Inter is asking for basically to deter us from buying.
Perisic allows Martial and Rashford to partner Lukaku up top. It's about tactical flexibility, not like for like.
Martial wants to play more centrally anyway.
Against top teams Martial was a defensive liability, so it would be good to have another option, an experienced option, for those matches. It's about squad depth and balance, and for United it takes a lot of money to get players who can add something to what we have already.
Martial wants to play more centrally anyway.
Against top teams Martial was a defensive liability, so it would be good to have another option, an experienced option, for those matches. It's about squad depth and balance, and for United it takes a lot of money to get players who can add something to what we have already.
Calling us Moyes football justifies no pardons. Snap out of it mate. You're being overly dramatic. The severe end of season fatigue notwithstanding we improved tremendously in style and pomp this past season.
Remember that players don't define the style of football. Jose has admitted to understanding United's needs for a swashbuckling brand of football. But he is also pragmatic in knowing that can only work if you start from the back and build a core that allows your forward flair to flourish. Even then, we've bought two players this far. One is a technical ball playing CB, not a brute force long ball thug. Why aren't we hearing more about how Lindelof will affect our play this season? It's because most of the commotion is about Lukakus touch from fans with a shallow understanding of the modern game to go beyond that.
Perisic and Lukaku aren't going to spoil our football. The former would provide balance to our buildup that's plenty exciting as is with Pogba, Mata, Mikhi, Pereira, and Martial. The latter has been signed to open defenses up with his presence and finish chances off. He has already shown he doesn't need to thrive on hoofball.
In the end, you must admit our priority is re establishing ourselves as England's best team. All the aesthetics will follow in due course.
This was away to one of the best teams in Europe last season.
People saying they'd prefer Sanchez/Martial/Douglas Costa etc just don't get it.
Perisic is a brilliant crosser of the ball. Mourinho wants him to service Lukaku (and possibly Ibra). It's obvious. He doesn't want another "cut inside/false number 10", he wants an old fashioned pacey winger that can whip one in and track back.
Perisic is perfect for what Mourinho wants. The other "marquee names" are not. Therefore I'd be happy if we get him if it means Mourinho gets what he needs to win us trophies.
Perisic is a brilliant crosser of the ball. Mourinho wants him to service Lukaku (and possibly Ibra). It's obvious. He doesn't want another "cut inside/false number 10", he wants an old fashioned pacey winger that can whip one in and track back.
Perisic is perfect for what Mourinho wants. The other "marquee names" are not. Therefore I'd be happy if we get him if it means Mourinho gets what he needs to win us trophies.
The same was said when we linked with morata but we found another player in lukaku.
Huh?
Then how about you keep quiet, wait and see how Perisic performs in a Mourinho/United setup and then judge the player?
The more I read the negative views on him in this thread the more I want to sign him and root for him next season! He'll offer us more on the wings than we've had for many seasons now. He'll actually beat a man and cross the ball - something we used to do for fun in our glory years.
Perisic is capable of much more.
He will be a top player for us.
Mourinho understands what it will take for us to WIN.
We haven't had a winger like Perisic for many years now. I hope we can come to a agreement with Inter because he'll definitely add explosiveness to our team.
I do not care about the price at all. I just think that if this is the best winger we can sign we would better off signing no one and trying to get the best out of what we already have. I do not think Perisic would improve us.
I hope so, because your previous posts were way off regarding his ability.
It saddens me to see the negative opinion on Perisic. He is a good player 
What the feck is wrong with half of you lot and the incessant negativity regarding this? He's a very good winger and someone who is completely different to what we have at the club. Especially that post from @itso 7 , so fecking dramatic 
He's fast, tricky, a proper winger, can score goals, can play with both feet equally well, is a hard worker and very versatile. He ticks loads of boxes. Sure, he's 28 so not ideal but it's not the end of the world. A few quality seasons while martial and rashford still develop and most importantly offers something way different to what we have.
People criticize saying we should go for a better player.... Well who? There are barely any wingers around, or any that are possible to get for any price. Dembele is the best future option, but there's no way Dortmund would let him go. After that? Juve just spent 45m on Douglas costa who is a few months younger but probably not as good as Perisic.
He's fast, tricky, a proper winger, can score goals, can play with both feet equally well, is a hard worker and very versatile. He ticks loads of boxes. Sure, he's 28 so not ideal but it's not the end of the world. A few quality seasons while martial and rashford still develop and most importantly offers something way different to what we have. People criticize saying we should go for a better player.... Well who? There are barely any wingers around, or any that are possible to get for any price. Dembele is the best future option, but there's no way Dortmund would let him go. After that? Juve just spent 45m on Douglas costa who is a few months younger but probably not as good as Perisic.
Not being funny but Perisic is a very good player. Not sure what all your post is all about really and if anything Fellaini has actually proved his worth last season. We wouldn't have won the trophies last season without him. Like it or not he was a key player. This forum at times honks of football snobbery.
Yes let's ruin a young central midfielder development by playing him at wings.
Some just like to set up their stall to detest new players if they aren't what they want. he's going to be the new Felaini/ Rooney on here, until he has a lot of outstanding games. Odd that he doesn't set the fee and is desperate to join United.
A very unambitious signing from someone who calls himself the special one
Some of the posts about him are ludicrous. Think I'll just let his football do the talking. Im tired of defending him as a player. Some of the shite spoken about him is clearly coming from people who haven't seen him play.
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