Ivan Perisic
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It seems the people who have watched him the most are the most underwhelmed by him.
I don't think anyone thinks he is shit, and lets not act like this guy is an unknown quantity. He has been around for years.
Hes a decent player, the problem is I'm not sure we need a decent player to solve our issues. If we get another attacker who can get goals with him then fair enough
Perisic will be the scapegoat of everything that goes wrong with United this year. Take a seat Lingard and Darmian, arise Perisic.
Of course I'm excited, I just feel bad for the guy when I read some of the stuff here. He'll get a nice reception from the stands tho and that's what's most important.Hey, i was excited when United signed Bebé
edit: just what poster above said. He'll be a new scapegoat. Fellaini must be relieved.
Have seen at least 10 - watch their games because of Batmanovic
And he's decent/good at best. The only problem i got with this is the pricetag which is absurd for a player of his quality.
It's been growing all summer obviously it's fine to have concerns but some of it is too extreme. Happens every year now, I still remember how mental the Daley Blind thread was a few summers ago.
Indeed
Don't mind my post. I was in muppet mode. I'm sure he has qualities. Tbf Mourinho's purchases (last year) were pretty spot on. He knows what he's doing.
I think he'll be good for us and he'll love it in a PL. Direct, fast wingers like him are well suited for PL imo.
We'll see, I think I will avoid his performances thread.
Nah once people see that he's quick, strong, a good dribbler and a very good winger overall, everyone will be fine with him. People got used to signing ibra/pogba/di maria/falcao and whoever else so the signings that make sense aren't as exciting to them. Scapegoat will still be fellaini/lingard, they have nothing to worry about on that front
I think he'll be good for us and he'll love it in a PL. Direct, fast wingers like him are well suited for PL imo.
We'll see, I think I will avoid his performances thread.
Don't. Do it like i did in the Rojo thread. It tastes sweeter then.
I think he'll be good for us and he'll love it in a PL. Direct, fast wingers like him are well suited for PL imo.
We'll see, I think I will avoid his performances thread.
First bad result every players performance thread will be a disaster. Just the way of the game around here. People even had their knives out at Pogba and Zlatan at points this season.
2 root canals would need 2 fillings. #ocd kicks in
this on then?
Well if he signs I hope he does well. On the positive side, he is 2 footed and has a decent eye for goal and can put players on their bum and works hard. He is a decent player he would do well for someone like Everton, so in the right setup he could be an effective player for us.
Just hope Martial gets enough game time though because he has more potential than him.
EDIT: It better not be a penny over 35m
Just hope Martial gets enough game time though because he has more potential than him.
EDIT: It better not be a penny over 35m
I wonder if his teeth issues would mean he would fail the medical at AC Milan.
I've not seen much of him, I'm told and read on here that he is a decent wide player with an end product. We currently have non of those so I will hold judgement until I see more of him
If we really want him, I wouldn't mind him. It will be interesting to see where he fits, if we are going to play 352 formation it wouldn't surprise me if he play as a striker.
Seems very short-sighted signing but who knows.
I see him sitting in as :
De Gea
Bailly Lindelof Rojo
Valencia Herrera Perisic
Mhki Pogba
Lukaku Martial / Rashford
De Gea
Bailly Lindelof Rojo
Valencia Herrera Perisic
Mhki Pogba
Lukaku Martial / Rashford
He is not our type of wingers we should go after right?
Maybe thats the point? If we can get one excellent season out of him - while defences are still adjusting to his game, and then get 3-4 'Valencia' type seasons from him then maybe he'd be a decent signing.
Martial can hopefully develop this year to a point where he is ready to be a leading player and then Perisic becomes a very good backup.
We really are mugs in the transfer market. We can't laugh at City or Madrid for overspending anymore. And at least Walker is one of the top players in his position, can anyone say Perisic is one of the world's best wingers.
I know it shouldn't bother me as it's not my money but it's not like we have a unlimited pool of funds unlike our noisy neighbours. It just seems very reckless or short-sighted as one of the posters above mentioned.
£50m for this guy is the equivalent of spending £27m on Fellaini. It makes Pogba's fee look like a snip. £50m for a such a mediocre player - although having said that, he's probably better than every single one of our current options on the wing. I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.
I know it shouldn't bother me as it's not my money but it's not like we have a unlimited pool of funds unlike our noisy neighbours. It just seems very reckless or short-sighted as one of the posters above mentioned.
£50m for this guy is the equivalent of spending £27m on Fellaini. It makes Pogba's fee look like a snip. £50m for a such a mediocre player - although having said that, he's probably better than every single one of our current options on the wing. I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.
Agree. That's what makes sense to me as well. The profile of Perisic is well-suited to compete with Martial without necessarily replacing him. It ensures consistency on the left wing as we won't be completely dependent on Martial. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand for some posters.
The price thing is also becoming a moot point. Walker cost 50m, so if we get a guy who provides 15 goals+assists in that range, I personally won't complain. I for one don't claim to be an ace accountant who will get someone better for less money. I'd probably sh*t my pants if I saw 1 million Euros together.
For 50 million, he will be more expensive Pogba when you consider his age. I hope he is worth that.
What the feck does this even mean?
He's a very decent player but he's not worth that. I'd support him if he comes, but Inter are trying to rob us here.
Personally, I still hope we go for an attacking left-back like Mendy and utilise attacking wing-backs like Chelsea, with 3 CBs. Then use Mkhi/Mata in their natural #10 position with 2 upfront from Martial/Rashford/Lukaku.
It means that if both players play for us until no resale value, say 32-33 years old, then Pogba's £89m is amortised to £8m a year. Whereas Perisic is like £10m a year.
And I'm the only person who finds this ridiculous? I'm sure an extra 2 million a year won't send the club bankrupt. If they pay the money, it's obvious that they rate Perisic.
If they pay the money, it's obvious that they rate Perisic.
You're the only one who said "bankrupt the club" though? We could spend £100m on Perisic and it still wouldn't bankrupt the club. Doesn't mean it makes sense.
He used the analogy to say that Perisic for £50m would be a more expensive player than Pogba when amortised over the years. Despite Perisic being, obviously, quite inferior. That's the point he was making.
Unfortunately that's not how transfers work. Inter don't give a feck how much we paid for Pogba. They have an asking price and it's the Club's job to negotiate the price if they see fit, eventually coming to an agreement or deciding to pull out.
This talk of finances is so pointless, I'm sure the people involved at the club have a better idea of the valuation and ability of players than some random fans on a forum board.
Unfortunately, nobody used that argument either (a bit like your "will not bankrupt the club" argument) so please stop putting up straw-man arguments up. People have simply said that based on their opinion, this is not a good deal for our club. From our perspective, not Inter's.
It's a football forum mate. I'm not sure why you feel so surprised that people express opinions on whether a deal is a good value or a rip off. It's staple transfer season discussion.
Just get him in, if he gives Mou what he wants and helps Jose pick up a few more trophies for us, in a 2nd season Mourinho syndome year then I don't give a shit what he costs anymore, would be nice to have a fast, direct winger option anyway.
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It's simple, he's not worth more than Pogba because he's not. Claiming he could be as costly as Pogba is wrong, because for one, we won't know the wages he'll expect, most likely less than Pogba and two, he won't cost nearly as much if he was to come.
Also there's so many factors that determine his value for us. He could come in and be our best player, winning us the title, equally he could come in and flop. He won't be a bigger investment for the club than Pogba because simply put, he won't cost as much over the long run. He's being brought in for instant success, which is what we hope to see, if so making him look like a bargain if anything.
There's a very slim chance he'll cost the club more than Pogba in the short term, absolutely no chance he will in the long term, taking into consideration wages, transfer fees etc. It's true that there's a chance he could cost more in the short term, taking into consideration his transfer fee alone, giving the amount of years he has left. Although using that as an argument, Pogba could feck off to another club tomorrow, he could break his leg etc. so many factors come into play.
Remember that transfer value is not the only thing to consider. Wages are often a lot more expensive than transfer fees, and Perisic's wages will be a lot less expensive than Pogba's were. We may be getting skinned for the transfer fee (although I think now that the player is angling for the move we should be able to push it down for 40mil), but in the long run he'll be decent value. Assuming he performs of course.
Mourinho's insistence on this signing could end up being his undoing at this club especially at the prices being touted. If things go horribly wrong this player could be to him what Fellaini was to Moyes - a symbol of the rot. I feel this signing is a backward move in terms of football style and sophistication as it will set a ceiling on the heights to which this team will evolve and looking at the money invested at Mourinho's urging it will be something that hastens his United exit. You don't spend 300m on a 'park the bus, kick and rush' system and expect people to silently accept it.
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