There is very little substance which suggests this will be the case though. The only time he was in fact a revelation was at Club Brugge. Was quite average in Germany (for 2 clubs) in all fairness. I watch a lot of Dortmund considering my girlfriend is from there, even saw him live on a few occasions. If we bring in another quality wide player, this signing would make more sense. Relying on Morata and Perisic to challenge for titles is ridiculous though as much as I rate both players, especially Morata. Bring in someone like Dembele on plus and we are looking at a much more successful transfer window.
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For 50m when should test Chelsea for Willian. He is way better.
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It looks like Ed does not even know.
From what I've seen of him he's much better and much more consistent. Arnautovic has a couple of good games a season.
In the end Mourinho will play him as a full back.
Arsenal and man city comfortably finished above us with those wingers. So what's your point?
I agree with what you said although calling Mane average is a bit too much. Having said that, while I fully agree, that specialised players can be as good if not better for one's system then world class players (ie Tevez-Berbatov comes to mind), I also believe that spending ridiculous amount of money for these sort of players is a bit loco, especially if they are close to their 30s
He wont elevate our attack but he will offer things are other wingers cant at best. Martial hardly puts in a good, sharp ball after beating defenders. Always goes on the inside, never make runs and always want the ball at his feet to start dribbling, think Mourinho wants more.
Yeah it is, but I think Mourinho wants a winger and not a wing forward anyway. Both at their best they are very different players but Martial surely better.
He will be our new Fellaini. Hated at the beginning, then slowly improving, but ultimately not good enough.
Certainly sounds plausible.
Or Young - hot start, quickly dropping off to his actual level leading to disappointment and scorn, but potentially a reliable option off the bench for a few years anyway.
In real life away from this place, every United fan I speak to thinks he'll be a shit signing.
or he'll be a good player. That too far outside the realms of possibility for y'all?
He's not good enough to start for a team that wants to win league titles. Neither is Lingard, Rashford, Fellaini et al and that's the issue.
We have mediocrity right through the squad and Perisic would be another addition to the 'works hard but isn't up to much' group.
No need to add him to that list.
I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, especially on a football forum, but the sheer arrogance in this place can be astonishing at times.
Some on here seem to think Perisic is nailed on to be a shit signing - seems pretty odd that Jose fecking Mourinho is after someone who is so obviously shit and ineffective for us.
Very odd indeed.
Maybe we're just splunking money for the sake of it.
Some on here seem to think Perisic is nailed on to be a shit signing - seems pretty odd that Jose fecking Mourinho is after someone who is so obviously shit and ineffective for us.
Very odd indeed.
Maybe we're just splunking money for the sake of it.
Can I have your crystal ball, please? This week's lotto would come in handy.
It wouldn't be much of a forum if we always adopted a 'let's wait until the passage of time provides us with absolute proof' mantra, would it?
You wouldn't be much of a manager turfing out a highly rated 19 year old after a year and a half either, so my point stands.
He is. Not every player needs to be world class. Not every player in Chelsea's 11 was. Neither is the case with many league winning sides including ours in the past.
Do we really need a left sided attacker. We have at least three or four that can play that position (martial rashford mkhitaryan young). We desperately need a RF/RM. Perisic just doesn't make any sense in my opinion. Clearly we should be pursuing world class or potential world class RF/RM and goal scoring players as rightly mentioned by @devilish . even with morata and perisic our team doesn't have enough goals in it and doesn't address our RW problems.
Hopefully Perisic doesn't turn out like Pedro Leon did for Jose.
Hopefully Perisic doesn't turn out like Pedro Leon did for Jose.
I haven't suggested we turf him out though, have I? I suggested that he wasn't good enough to start for a title winning team and I stand by that.
They all had matchwinning quality e.g. Chelsea had Hazard and Costa. Every title winning team of ours had that quality as well. Even Leicester had Mahrez and Vardy playing out of their skin.
We don't have that quality now and Perisic wouldn't improve that so why buy him?
He won't be the Hazard but could well be a functional support to our more prominent players. Yes we may not be there yet but I see value in getting him if there is a specific plan to use him and that would completely depend on the manager. Overpaying is the only issue here and it looks like we aren't too keen to overspend in order to get him, which is good.
That's muppetry for you.
This place get so much excited when we hired Moyes while my scouser' fan mate having the laugh in my face
nah, he will become fan favorite very soon, here as well. Looking forward reading posts then...
Putting Young, who hardly played as winger last season, into this discussion is really beside the point. Perišić, like most of the wingers we were connected to (Willian, L.Moura), can play on the right, like Di María used to for Real Madrid under Mourinho.
Looks like Lenny from Of Mice and Men.
how does Perisic compare with players like Dembele, Forsburg, Felipe Anderson, Gomez, Bernardeschi, Balde, Lucas Moura, Douglas Costa for those who watch the German/Italian leagues regularly
In all honesty, our insistence on Perišić is telling me Mourinho is very assured, almost obsessed, he could work well for the team, so I'm almost convinced. Also, the player's demeanour feels me with confidence, too.
One of the real signs of a player being any good is seeing how much his team's fans want to keep him.
Right now i'm in a bar surrounded by Inter fans who are absolutely gutted by these tweets and the possibility he could be on his way to us.
Think we have to trust Jose on this one.
Right now i'm in a bar surrounded by Inter fans who are absolutely gutted by these tweets and the possibility he could be on his way to us.
Think we have to trust Jose on this one.
He's a workhorse. Both footed. Creates decent chances and chips in with goals. He is basically well rounded that gives genuine width - something we don't see yet in Martial. He'll be a very good addition to us. Someone willing to graft and have the energy in him.
It's the money involved that is putting most off I'd say. Money aside he will improve us as an attackinng unit, where our existing players in similar position have gone missing a lot last season. He might be able to give a little guidance to the likes of Martial too.
It's the money involved that is putting most off I'd say. Money aside he will improve us as an attackinng unit, where our existing players in similar position have gone missing a lot last season. He might be able to give a little guidance to the likes of Martial too.
I am sure Sunderland fans would love to keep Defore. Should we sign him for 50m too?
Sorry, but we dont share the same paradigm with Inter!
that sounds promising
I think only Icardi was more productive than Perisic for Inter last year
Unfortunately those qualities do not address our immediate needs.
We need players that can elevate our impotent attack to the next level and not just make it 'different'. Players that can grab control of the game, carry the attack and win us games, even scoring from nothing.
Can Perisc do that? If he cant, then all those qualities you listed are of little to no value and his acquisition is simply a waste of funds and opportunity
Has something happened with this? Scanned the last few pages for tweets but can't see any.
It's not like Inter/Perisic and relegated, pathetic Sunderland and 34 year old Defoe are the same thing
It was an odd comparison - had a look out of curiosity and they had similar scoring records - 11 in 31 for Perisic, 15 in 37 for Defoe
Perisic on the left is very productive - 26 games, 11 goals, 6 assists is very decent - from whoscored
Hes played 32 games as a left sided player and 2 as a right sided player. Calling Perisic a right sided player when he hardly ever plays there and comparing him to an inverted winger like di maria is really besides the point.
Would you want to see a player who doesnt play RW often enough to play RW for Man United in the toughest league in the world. I wouldnt.
Mourinho likes specialists as far as i know
PS - Willian and Moura play predominantly on the right (unlike perisic)
The Inter fans I know are more excited at the prospect of signing a superior player in ADM
I think the plan is to use Morata's impressive heading ability and for that we need a good winger who can get past a man and cross from both sides. Perisic is fitting this situation, Martial/mata/mkhi/lingard arent that kind of players where they would do that. Also Perisic is tall,quick and a hardworker so i think Mourinho is working on a plan like this. Different opponents will require different plans, like the game against ajax proved, teams with pressing and posession need to be countered by keeping ball in air and quick counter attack and both which Morata and Perisic will help in. I am not too thrilled with this signing but Mourinho is very good at tactically and if he sees he can exploit some areas with perisic and if he gives mou tactical flexibility then why not?
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