Douglas Costa?
Ivan Perisic
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Douglas Costa?
That is the thing, no one does, people are just insisting that we should look elsewhere for the price and turn their nose down at Perisic, whilst never presenting a viable and realistic option.
Mourinho will have given Woodward 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice picks in all the positions that he wants to strengthen. Judging by the discussion on Perisic, his quality isn't high enough to make him a 1 or 2 pick. I would imagine, by this news, that we've made a breakthrough with a different one of our priorities.
Once the window is over, there'll be loads of people claiming we 'wasted' the summer chasing after Perisic or that he was our first choice to begin with. The truth is just that the Perisic chase is simply the one that's resulted in the most leaks. Reality isn't always accurately reflected by the differing volumes of what gets reported.
I reckon we're close to getting a superior player. We need a winger and there are better out there. Don't be surprised if it's someone who's name has rarely been mentioned in connection to us.
Once the window is over, there'll be loads of people claiming we 'wasted' the summer chasing after Perisic or that he was our first choice to begin with. The truth is just that the Perisic chase is simply the one that's resulted in the most leaks. Reality isn't always accurately reflected by the differing volumes of what gets reported.
I reckon we're close to getting a superior player. We need a winger and there are better out there. Don't be surprised if it's someone who's name has rarely been mentioned in connection to us.
He is off to Juve.
I don't care. I only care about what he has in his pocket, his attributes and what he can offer to our play overall.
Thats really not a reason we should be signing Perisic. First of all both Rashford and Martial track back very well. Also they are both unpredictable when playing on the wings cause they cut in and go around the outside defender. So this notion that they "always" cut inside in wrong. And what exactly is keeping the width mean? Please do explain.
This will not be helping Jose's mood one bit. He wanted Griezmann, not happened. He wants Perisic, might not happen. Ed better get him more than one CB.
He has nothing in his pocket. He wont offer anything different to what we already have. I mean he failed for two teams in the freaking Bundesliga. He was back up at Dortmund just a few years ago. I cant believe we are talking about him playing at United.
While they under instruction might track back a bit they are mostly wide forwards and not wingers, so they naturally won't do it.
And I can count on one hand how often Martial and Rashford has gone around the defenders and hugged the touchline while delivering crosses like an out&out winger should do. They are always looking to cut inside and shoot on their favourite foot, meanwhile a player (ambidextrous as well I might add) like Perisic will always look to beat his man on the outside and put a cross in.
With us effectively having two #10's as options on the RW who will always cut inside, a pure wide player will be a vital option for us on the left.
This is like poker. Ed is holding out. 30million pound bid tomorrow test there nerve
Look, I told you opinions will never change. He has been getting the Fellaini treatment since his news appeared. I'm sure even if he had come and played really good, people will still say " but he's not up to our standards ".
Opinions never change.
Well try and change it. Isnt that the whole point of a debate? You still havent offered any conclusive evidence as to how he will improve our team. The whole "manager wants him so Im okay with it" argument is total fecking bullcrap.
They do when players leave us...forlan was a useless striker for many until he signed for villereal/ athleti, welbeck the same and now it's like he's the second coming.
Our fans are a fickle bunch, were always looking our with doe eyes and never appreciate what we have.
're perisic I don't know much about him other than if Jose wants him I trust what he wants
Thought the consequences for not meeting FFP rules would have been much severe. a €7m fine? even Inter won't feel anything.
Well isnt that better? To have a second option? Like when Valencia just goes outside and crosses everytime? How many assists does he have over the last few years? He basically plays like a winger for us nowadays. This unpredictability is why defenders will think twice about committing towards either Rashford or Martial. If not fullbacks will just show you inside and force you to pass sideways. If they do the same with R or M they will get burnt either side.
I have offered it in thousands of posts here before, and not about "manager wants him only". Thing is even after all these discussions people who are refusing him are still at their opinions, so no need to reopen another discussions with the exact same replies with no results.
I thought it was around 20m Euros?
There is no unpredictabillity though, they will 90% of the the time cut inside.
And having a wide option on the left would be our second option, the right side will always look to cut inside since our two options there are two #10's\playmakers that do their best work from centrally.
You can't really compare Valencia's delivery with Perisic's, while I do love Valencia his delivery is quite shite and has been for a fair few years. As I understand pace and delivery are the two biggest assets of Perisic.
One additional option Perisic gives us is the abillity to play 3-5-2 with him and Valencia being the WB's, would be quite an exciting option actually since we got the CB's and strikers (permitting we sign Morata) for it.
I think there will be more consequences other than the €7m-fine.
Inter were in the same situation in 2015, and they were subject to 1- a financial fine 2- limiting their squad number for Europe the next season 3- tighter financial regulations for the next two seasons
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ma-and-monaco-punished-for-breaking-ffp-rules
Pretty sure Monaco are going to be fine after this window.
It is believing that the likes of Rashford would do a better job on the LW than Perisic that causes us to be over-hyped and then flop
Rashford is a good player for his age. That is it really. Not in the same league as Perisic yet
They should sell Fabinho and Mendy to us just to be sure.
Throw in Mbappe too.
Agreed!
It is my opinion that, given the press are clueless and are probably trying to save face, that we were never in for him in the first place.
He did score 22 goals in the 2010/2011 season with Club Brugge. He was the league's highest goal scorer and player of the season that year. And 11 goals + 11 assists is not bad in a season for a winger playing in a team that created very few chances. Only Zlatan scored more than him in our squad. Just saying.
For me, the debate can go on forever about Perisic's quality in the CAF. It's neither here nor there for me. What I believe matters most is whether or not Jose is convinced Perisic will be the right fit for his game plan next season. As always, we will all judge based on results and performances. Surely, the manager knows that his reputation is on the line.
He did score 22 goals in the 2010/2011 season with Club Brugge. He was the league's highest goal scorer and player of the season that year. And 11 goals + 11 assists is not bad in a season for a winger playing in a team that created very few chances. Only Zlatan scored more than him in our squad. Just saying.
For me, the debate can go on forever about Perisic's quality in the CAF. It's neither here nor there for me. What I believe matters most is whether or not Jose is convinced Perisic will be the right fit for his game plan next season. As always, we will all judge based on results and performances. Surely, the manager knows that his reputation is on the line.
Yes and Lukaku was also killing it in the Belgian league. And even after he has proven himself in the toughest league people dont think he is good enough. Also 11 goals and 11 assists isnt anything special. If he played here last season, he wouldnt even have as productive as Rooney was. Zaha scored 11 and assisted 8 goals last season. You want to pay 40m+ to bring him back here? He is "premier league proven" plus he wont cut inside. He is an out and out winger and will stretch the play.
All of the British AND all of the Italian press (including transfer muppet king Gianluca Di Marzio) are clueless, jointly conspired to fabricate United's interest in Perisic and are now trying to "save face" because a transfer they must have known never had any chance of occurring (because they made it all up), is in fact not going to occur? Okay then.
So now you just steal my opinions.
We agree that the press are clueless? I have always held that opinion
Pretty much, yes.
If we end up signing him then I'll be wrong. Who was that a few years ago, speculation all through the summer, Vidal was it? Turned out we were never in for him, I think.
B.Silva made 11 goals and 10 assists last season in a full attacking team so by stats only he's a crap transfer for City ? just saying.
Lvg sold players which should have been kept. The likes of zaha welbck hernandez kagawa would have been so useful in this squad
Because there is such a thing as value in a transfer and Silva is only 22. He has so much upside and can only improve from here on in.
Well I agree a few of them would help now but what does that have to do with this conversation?
So, when talking about a player joining another rival stats aren't everything, but for a player we're linked to stats prove he's a terrible player ?
Perisic numbers are excellent providing that Inter is a terrible team with a terrible set of players and not to mention the toxic environment there and changing 3 managers during the season as if they're a relegating club leading to total dysfunctional and disturbed team in terms of tactics and play style. With all this he puts really a very good numbers that matches those of Silva who's playing in a full attacking team that score a whole loads of goals.
That if you want to be fair. Not saying Silva is bad btw.
Silva is a creative player with good ball control and vision. Some things aremore important in a philosophy than just stats.
Again I wasn't meaning Silva is bad, very good player but was replaying on the stats part in the post. You either take the stats as a whole for each player on not. That's my point.
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