Ivan Perisic
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Anyone who thinks this is over think again, Ed called their bluff and lost now he'll just have to pay the asking price which he will as he's clearly a player Jose wants
State of this place when we end up paying the same for Perisic as Citeh paid for B.Silva.
Wait, just so I can attempt to understand the Inter 'rumoured' FFP situation - they had til midnight to raise 30m Euros, and it magically just happened? Ie, they had a foreign/third party investor choose to through 30m their way?
I mean, fair play, but one has to wonder what that person/entity will get out of it....
I mean, fair play, but one has to wonder what that person/entity will get out of it....
Yeah, this whole thing doesn't make much sense.
I think they actually managed to sell enough players to raise the 30m, it didn't come from an investor. They sold Banega along with a bunch of fringe players and made it work
Inter Milan wins with Ace high.
Well done Ed you bellend
Well done Ed you bellend
It seems they sold about six reserves today.
Without knowing any facts I'm just going to call shenanigans.
Without knowing any facts I'm just going to call shenanigans.
Regardless, We were not taking advantage of their situation. A Winger like perisic aint worth more than 35 -40 m euros max. If any other club than united would be buying him the price would be the same specially for smaller clubs.
Inter Milan wins with Ace high.
Well done Ed you bellend
In this case, he couldn't win. If he paid most here would still call him bellend.
Although, don't believe journalists anything in this story.
Pays too much, gets criticised, refuses to pay extortionate prices, gets slated.
He is much better out & out winger than any we have. Doing better proper winger job than any of our players: balance between attacking & defending, keeping wide, stretching play, beating his man, putting cross in, tracking opposition full back... Team can't stop Valencia from running through them on right wing. problem is his creativity suck so he is converted to a full back as his defensive work is still top notch. He's in 30s too. Doesn't look like player automatically decline physical at 30 like in video game. Perisic is not the forward to score 20+ goals, but he helped a lot in the build up. We're over-relying on Pogba especially toward the end of the season. He had to do everything. With Perisic to share the responsibilities, the team would improve, Pogba would improve. Yes we will still look at the players to put the ball into the net, but that was going to happen regardless. The more you say, the more I see that you seem not to watch Perisic at all. I know it's hard to judge a player, but IMO if I have to describe the Perisic the last season, he is the blend/ average of the young Robben & Darmien Duff. That's not top player but pretty good player that capable for a title challenging team in the right set up.
I will repeat again, until the official fee announce, all is up to speculation. If anything the more reliable source showed that we have been posturing to get a reasonable price. Even at 44mil like what you like to believe, the price will only get crazier with time. In case he lives up to the manager's expectation for like 2 seasons, that' good enough. Mourinho would go for winning the trophies. That's the expectation to be clear.
Ed looks really embarrassing that I don't think he'll pay.
We'll move on to the plan b.
We'll move on to the plan b.
All of a sudden Inter don't need to raise €30m by 30th June...announced on 29th June?
Someone's telling porkies, and what a surprise it involves an Italian club.
Someone's telling porkies, and what a surprise it involves an Italian club.
We're giving Ed stick for not letting Inter pull his pants down now? Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
You can never win with a lot of the posters on here.
We are absolutely right not to pay that amount for him.
Costa/Moura/Felipe Anderson could all possibly leave this summer, maybe even Ousmane Dembele.
Costa/Moura/Felipe Anderson could all possibly leave this summer, maybe even Ousmane Dembele.
No. I'm delighted to see we're not going for Perisic anymore. I can understand the "logic" of signing him, but it's as underwhelming of a signing as you can get.
Another long fruitless pursuit of a player that depends on factors outside of our control. A gamble that hasn't paid off, leaving us scrambling for 2nd or 3rd choice, hoping that those players aren't already halfway out the door to other clubs and don't mind being our backup option.
Presumably we are not going to pay the full asking price now, so who are 2nd and 3rd choice options?
Presumably we are not going to pay the full asking price now, so who are 2nd and 3rd choice options?
Oh yes, shenanigans are involved. They managed to massively inflate Caprari's valuation as part of the Skriniar deal(also massively overvalued. A case of the clubs helping each other out)
Btw, i don't see what's hard to believe about this "saga". It was Mhkitaryan 2.0, utd saw the chance to sign a very good player Mou liked and wanted for a relatively low price, and made a bid. Unlike with Mhki last year, this time the "selling club"(buoyed by a rich ownership willing to eat their own money rather accept what they perceived as a "bad deal") played hardball and the transfer didn't go through
I'll be very surprised if United go in for him again at this point. Think they'll look for a cheaper alternative
This is also what I thought. Tried to use the situation to sign player, it didn't happen so we'll move on rather than paying the big fee.
This one looks dead
Oh, thanks. How ...convenient.
I would have been delighted had we managed to miss out on Fellaini.
Except Fellaini wasn't a target for any manager. It was a panic signing we did because we missed all our other targets in this summer. If the summer had gone as planned he wouldn't have been different. Perisic is a target for our current manager, though.
Maybe we make Fellaini manoeuvre with this one and come back with a 50million offer.
We can get a better player for 50m
I know. But who is the main question?
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Fellaini was still a player a manager decided to sign.
I don't think there's anything odd that people are happy we're not going to pay €50m for a 28-year old who hardly pulled up any trees during his career so far.
So if he was our 1st choice in theory, who the hell could we possibly be after instead? There must be someone.
For once I'm really, really relieved that it looks like we're not going to get our number one target. Plan B can only be better than this utterly average, ageing player.
I can't imagine him being our 1st choice and we're dicking around counting that their hand will be forced by the rule which you can stupidly avoid.
So, either we made our final offer which was refused and move along for a few weeks now. Or he wasn't our first choice.
Given how important he's been these last 2 seasons I think that literally proves that fans don't always know how good a player will actually be for us. No doubt we could have gotten a better player than Fellaini, but was getting him worse than not getting him? Absolutely not he's scored so many crucial goals (especially in the FA Cup under LVG) for us we wouldn't be where we are without him
Sigh....
The thread has reached page 120 and people complaining about him are still saying exactly the same words " 50m, 29 years old, average". No creativity in criticism at all I must say
How do you know ? Did you get a chance reading Jose's list ?
Well, I could criticise him for his fashion sense but that's hardly relevant, is it? His age, quality and price will be very important even if the thread reaches 240 pages.
I am no ITK or anything so I may be off the tangent on this. However here is what I think happened.
United were planning to spend some real money on Griezmann. Griezmann would have slipped right on the left (inside striker) side with Mata in the center and Mkhitaryan on the right. In 1-2 season time Mata would be sold, Griezmann would move as no 10, a more consistent Martial will take the left flank role and we would have lived happily ever after.
It turned out that Atletico got the ban, Griezmann made a U-turn and United’s plan A went tits up. Under such circumstances, Mou went for Perisic.
The guy is versatile, he wasn’t expected to cost us a fortune, he wasn’t a big enough name to cause havoc if he ever end up as a squad player and at 28 he represented the stop gap United needed until Martial is old enough to show consistency. Next summer we would still have the £££ to go for Griezmann. At that point the fee spent on Perisic would be probably recouped by selling either Mata or Lingard or both.
It turned out that Inter got greedy and expected us to fund their FFP + a Perisic upgrade.
So here are the three things that can happen
a- Perisic will return to Inter and cause a panic. Inter will be forced to let him go at United terms
b- United might decide to forget about Griezmann and bring the top quality player NOW. Sanchez is available. James can be brought as RW with Mkhitaryan moving as LW.
c- We might go for a slightly more expensive but younger option to Perisic. Players like Bernardeschi or Insigne comes to mind.
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Maybe. I mean no one knows what is actually happening now and you went even few years further.
Can agree with your last three options as possibilities.
It seems that the market is currently locked with many clubs bidding for the same players while not allowing their own players to leave unless they get the fees/players they want. Its a seller's market out there. However, things can change very quickly. If for example Real get Mbappe then they will probably release Morata which in turn will probably free Chelsea's path for Lukaku. If Chelsea gets Bakayoko then they will probably sell Matic to us.
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